They were given same portrayal you can see in the panel i posted Tenguyama explains Shusui belongs in the same grade as Enma and Ame no habakiri. Zoro wado is also of the same grade the only difference was Oden was able to fight Kaido and scarred him using his swords, and zoro already replicates this same feat by scarring Kaido with all 3 of his swords. Sandai which is two grades lower than his two other swords has accomplished same feat, so that should tell you no matter how much you overhype certain sword in the end it's all about the caliber of the swordsman wielding them.
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Here you Zoro was not just using Enma here he scared Kaido using all 3 of his swords, which means Zoro Sandai his weakest sword has accomplished same feat as Enma and Ame no habakiri
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Here Zoro also uses its three swords, but note which of the three sword is put on the spotlight and is underscored as responsible for the damage that Kaido received from Tatsumaki this panel?
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Note that strangely Emma is once again in evidence before the Asura stroke is made, also strangely causing a single scar on Kaido with a result of the blow.
Literally everything related to Enma leads us to intuitively understand that she is superior to Zoro's other two swords. In Oda's own writing, it is Enma that receives prominence, hype and merit while the other swords are placed in the background.
Now I don't understand why this aversion to the whole idea that Enma is a power-up to Zoro... Because all Mugiwaras are getting Power-ups in Wano and Enma is clearly one of them.
I agree with the tatsumaki move and its possible that enma caused the cut.
I dont agree with this though. Even when Zoro used Ashura against Kaku, there was only one cut on him despite Zoro pointing all 9 swords at him and cutting him.
It is very possible that all the cuts are in the same direction and add up to one massive cut. We gotta wait for explicit confirmation that "Dead's man game" attack causes 3 cuts totally and only the Enma one actually cut Kaido - from either in the manga or in the anime before talking about this. Also regarding the scene where Enma flares up right before he uses it to cut Kaido, we do see the other two swords in position right before and that scene is probably put in to show homage to Oden who cut Kaido using the very same sword.
Yeah this is literally Oden's arc and will. With Luffy and Zoro being the spiritual carriers of that will and the main protagonists of this arc. Zoro inherited the sword enma for the sole reason of cutting Kaido. It is obvious that Oda will show and give more prominence, hype and merit to Enma this arc.
Yeah I agree with this point.
I dont agree with this though. Even when Zoro used Ashura against Kaku, there was only one cut on him despite Zoro pointing all 9 swords at him and cutting him.
It is very possible that all the cuts are in the same direction and add up to one massive cut. We gotta wait for explicit confirmation that "Dead's man game" attack causes 3 cuts totally and only the Enma one actually cut Kaido - from either in the manga or in the anime before talking about this. Also regarding the scene where Enma flares up right before he uses it to cut Kaido, we do see the other two swords in position right before and that scene is probably put in to show homage to Oden who cut Kaido using the very same sword.
Yeah this is literally Oden's arc and will. With Luffy and Zoro being the spiritual carriers of that will and the main protagonists of this arc. Zoro inherited the sword enma for the sole reason of cutting Kaido. It is obvious that Oda will show and give more prominence, hype and merit to Enma this arc.
Yeah I agree with this point.
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Go to chapter 1003:
Here Zoro also uses its three swords, but note which of the three sword is put on the spotlight and is underscored as responsible for the damage that Kaido received from Tatsumaki this panel?
Go to chapter 1010:
Note that strangely Emma is once again in evidence before the Asura stroke is made, also strangely causing a single scar on Kaido with a result of the blow.
Literally everything related to Enma leads us to intuitively understand that she is superior to Zoro's other two swords. In Oda's own writing, it is Enma that receives prominence, hype and merit while the other swords are placed in the background.
Now I don't understand why this aversion to the whole idea that Enma is a power-up to Zoro... Because all Mugiwaras are getting Power-ups in Wano and Enma is clearly one of them.
Go to chapter 1003:
Here Zoro also uses its three swords, but note which of the three sword is put on the spotlight and is underscored as responsible for the damage that Kaido received from Tatsumaki this panel?
Go to chapter 1010:
Note that strangely Emma is once again in evidence before the Asura stroke is made, also strangely causing a single scar on Kaido with a result of the blow.
Literally everything related to Enma leads us to intuitively understand that she is superior to Zoro's other two swords. In Oda's own writing, it is Enma that receives prominence, hype and merit while the other swords are placed in the background.
Now I don't understand why this aversion to the whole idea that Enma is a power-up to Zoro... Because all Mugiwaras are getting Power-ups in Wano and Enma is clearly one of them.
In ch 1010 it's same situation Enma aura is gone if you look at the very next panel this was heavily injured depleted Zoro who had just tanked hakai he might have momentarily lost control before he regained it. Do you see any aura when he is landing his attack, if you think Enma is somehow continuously boosting him with power it makes very little sense not to take advantage, that aura would be present all the time when he was landing his attacks. As @ConquistadoR already explained Zoro when he finished Kaku also produced single slash despite using all 3 of his swords so you are dead wrong here.
Exactly why zoro has to "exert" more innit? so imbuing it with haki just put it at a different level than any of his other blades..since he openly admitted that HE NEEDS TO EXERT MORE so he's basically using that perk to his benefit .. It ultimately makes it a power up.
Just coz all 3 sword were used doesn't mean 1 wasn't primarily focused on that a guess that you're putting forward.
In this panel after ashura you can clearly see zoro lifting Enma in a post-attack stance.. I mean its logical since in the previous panel, again, enma was the focus.
So saying that 3 sword were all equally responsible for the cut in Tatsumaki too.. Is a fallacy! and just like ashura attack Enma was the primary focus on the panel when he was Imbuing his blade.. Even Kaido says "it must be oden's sword" you still don't believe him.. He didn't pluralize what he said.. He specified what cut him..
That just means 3 sword style has variations...onigiri cuts with 2 blades not 3 it just a matter of what's compatible with the style and what he can utilise for full potency .. He can't pull the same move with 2 swords or 1 sword.. since he's used to 3 the move requires 3 sword maneuver..the highest potency 3SS attack utilises and involves all 3 swords equally
Not all swords are involved equally everytime especially when its specified what cuts the opponent.
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All three were responsible when Zoro used Tatsumaki to cut Kaido in dragon form Enma seems to take bit more haki initially before Zoro perfectly balanced his coating between all his 3 swords as you can clear see the moment he attacks there is no aura surrounding Enma anymore. There would be no point relying on the other swords wasting haki otherwise
In ch 1010 it's same situation Enma aura is gone if you look at the very next panel this was heavily injured depleted Zoro who had just tanked hakai he might have momentarily lost control before he regained it. Do you see any aura when he is landing his attack, if you think Enma is somehow continuously boosting him with power it makes very little sense not to take advantage, that aura would be present all the time when he was landing his attacks. As @ConquistadoR already explained Zoro when he finished Kaku also produced single slash despite using all 3 of his swords so you are dead wrong here.
In ch 1010 it's same situation Enma aura is gone if you look at the very next panel this was heavily injured depleted Zoro who had just tanked hakai he might have momentarily lost control before he regained it. Do you see any aura when he is landing his attack, if you think Enma is somehow continuously boosting him with power it makes very little sense not to take advantage, that aura would be present all the time when he was landing his attacks. As @ConquistadoR already explained Zoro when he finished Kaku also produced single slash despite using all 3 of his swords so you are dead wrong here.
In this panel after ashura you can clearly see zoro lifting Enma in a post-attack stance.. I mean its logical since in the previous panel, again, enma was the focus.
So saying that 3 sword were all equally responsible for the cut in Tatsumaki too.. Is a fallacy! and just like ashura attack Enma was the primary focus on the panel when he was Imbuing his blade.. Even Kaido says "it must be oden's sword" you still don't believe him.. He didn't pluralize what he said.. He specified what cut him..
That just means 3 sword style has variations...onigiri cuts with 2 blades not 3 it just a matter of what's compatible with the style and what he can utilise for full potency .. He can't pull the same move with 2 swords or 1 sword.. since he's used to 3 the move requires 3 sword maneuver..the highest potency 3SS attack utilises and involves all 3 swords equally
Not all swords are involved equally everytime especially when its specified what cuts the opponent.
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Exactly why zoro has to "exert" more innit? so imbuing it with haki just put it at a different level than any of his other blades..since he openly admitted that HE NEEDS TO EXERT MORE so he's basically using that perk to his benefit .. It ultimately makes it a power up.
Just coz all 3 sword were used doesn't mean 1 wasn't primarily focused on that a guess that you're putting forward.
In this panel after ashura you can clearly see zoro lifting Enma in a post-attack stance.. I mean its logical since in the previous panel, again, enma was the focus.
So saying that 3 sword were all equally responsible for the cut in Tatsumaki too.. Is a fallacy! and just like ashura attack Enma was the primary focus on the panel when he was Imbuing his blade.. Even Kaido says "it must be oden's sword" you still don't believe him.. He didn't pluralize what he said.. He specified what cut him..
That just means 3 sword style has variations...onigiri cuts with 2 blades not 3 it just a matter of what's compatible with the style and what he can utilise for full potency .. He can't pull the same move with 2 swords or 1 sword.. since he's used to 3 the move requires 3 sword maneuver..the highest potency 3SS attack utilises and involves all 3 swords equally
Not all swords are involved equally everytime especially when its specified what cuts the opponent.
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Just coz all 3 sword were used doesn't mean 1 wasn't primarily focused on that a guess that you're putting forward.
In this panel after ashura you can clearly see zoro lifting Enma in a post-attack stance.. I mean its logical since in the previous panel, again, enma was the focus.
So saying that 3 sword were all equally responsible for the cut in Tatsumaki too.. Is a fallacy! and just like ashura attack Enma was the primary focus on the panel when he was Imbuing his blade.. Even Kaido says "it must be oden's sword" you still don't believe him.. He didn't pluralize what he said.. He specified what cut him..
That just means 3 sword style has variations...onigiri cuts with 2 blades not 3 it just a matter of what's compatible with the style and what he can utilise for full potency .. He can't pull the same move with 2 swords or 1 sword.. since he's used to 3 the move requires 3 sword maneuver..the highest potency 3SS attack utilises and involves all 3 swords equally
Not all swords are involved equally everytime especially when its specified what cuts the opponent.
The Kaku panel proves no shit..
But ashura panel does.. Zoro lifts enma in the cutting stance after he cut him.. Its irrefutable what was PRIMARILY used there when enma was the focus...
You even deny what Kaido states that oden's blade cut him..as a pathetic pretense you say Kaido doesn't know zoro's other blades hence all 3 cut him.. Which is so fukin pitiful.. Why tf doesn't Kaido pluralise what cuts him, like saying "His swords cut me" rather than "it must be oden's sword"..
how can one be so utterly idiotic i don't get it.. Even i run out of adjective to such delusional cases..
But ashura panel does.. Zoro lifts enma in the cutting stance after he cut him.. Its irrefutable what was PRIMARILY used there when enma was the focus...
You even deny what Kaido states that oden's blade cut him..as a pathetic pretense you say Kaido doesn't know zoro's other blades hence all 3 cut him.. Which is so fukin pitiful.. Why tf doesn't Kaido pluralise what cuts him, like saying "His swords cut me" rather than "it must be oden's sword"..
how can one be so utterly idiotic i don't get it.. Even i run out of adjective to such delusional cases..
Kaido comment on enma because that's the only sword he can relate to. He never stated Zoro didn't cut him with the other swords. It's no different than when Kaido linked Scabbards cutting him to Oden. They gave Kaido PTSD and Kaido thought they had Oden's ryu. That was because of the connection that have with Oden and Kaido lack of knowledge and understanding of ryu.
Zoro is the swordsman. If he uses a 3 sword attack then he cut his opponent with all three swords and his attack. If he doesn't than Zoro would let us know he didn't cut his opponent the way he wanted to.
I've never seen so many people try so hard to dismiss Zoro's skills and power.
Zoro is the swordsman. If he uses a 3 sword attack then he cut his opponent with all three swords and his attack. If he doesn't than Zoro would let us know he didn't cut his opponent the way he wanted to.
I've never seen so many people try so hard to dismiss Zoro's skills and power.
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Its both...yes technically as he uses it he gets accustomed to The mechanism.. as he uses its perks to his advantage.
Dissmiss FALLACIES..
When Kaido specifies IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADE then say OwO AtLeast He DiDn't SaY OtHeR SwORds Didn't Cut Him... IS REDUNDANT.. how can you state such a statement with a straight face?
Even if you take it froma different perspective (it seems like my previous statement about onigiri just cutting with 2 blades is wrong and i had misinterpreted zoro's 3ss play).. Lets assume all the blades cut Kaido (seeing that scabbard did too its shouldn't band before claiming that its Oden's blades it.. He let's out a cry that IT HURTS and then says IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADES..
just goes to say Enma is the only one doing any substantial damage to Kaido is Woden's sword
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Dissmiss FALLACIES..
When Kaido specifies IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADE then say OwO AtLeast He DiDn't SaY OtHeR SwORds Didn't Cut Him... IS REDUNDANT.. how can you state such a statement with a straight face?
Even if you take it froma different perspective (it seems like my previous statement about onigiri just cutting with 2 blades is wrong and i had misinterpreted zoro's 3ss play).. Lets assume all the blades cut Kaido (seeing that scabbard did too its shouldn't band before claiming that its Oden's blades it.. He let's out a cry that IT HURTS and then says IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADES..
just goes to say Enma is the only one doing any substantial damage to Kaido is Woden's sword
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