Powers & Abilities Enma is a Power up.

[draganax]

I dont know why the cloud didnt happen with Oden.
There was no cloud during Oni Giri since Zoro didnt release haki during it.

maybe zoro's haki has something different than oden's, i believe the cloud appears because zoro infuses enma with haki.
zoro did 2 attack without the clouds, one against onigashima gate fodder and the second in onigiri vs kaido, non of them were infused with haki.
the cloud appeared in three attacks: hiryu kaen, tatsumaki and asura and all of them were infused with haki.

 

[nik87]

maybe zoro's haki has something different than oden's, i believe the cloud appears because zoro infuses enma with haki.
zoro did 2 attack without the clouds, one against onigashima gate fodder and the second in onigiri vs kaido, non of them were infused with haki.
the cloud appeared in three attacks: hiryu kaen, tatsumaki and asura and all of them were infused with haki.

When he hardens his blades, Enma's gimmick draws more than other swords and creates that haki cloud or whatever it is.
It never happened in Oden's hands tho and not sure how Zoro's haki would be different but there might be something to it...
There was no cloud during Asura, I think Zoro was too depleted because of Hakai block that required a huge haki barrier.

 

[mly90]

Of course it's huge power up. Zoro be channeling Odens haki through it.

This garbage again is this damage control because you fear what's coming

 

[draganax]

I think this definition of Mihawk is misunderstood. There is a difference in power between the swords in terms of curse or in some respects.
Mihawk has stated that making only a black sword is the highest level of a sword.
One of the most important features of Enma is that its owner can focus his haki on the sword which make Enma clearly power upgrade. There is no other way for Zoro to reveal so much haki than Enma. If you examine the chapter drawings carefully, you will see the great amount of haki surrounding Enma.
Moreover, Zoro wasn't a rookie swordsman when he took Enma. He is currently one of the top 5 swordsmen before Enma Zoro. To control Enma is not hard situation for Zoro.

i don't think so, imo the deference between swords is decided by the quality of craftsmanship, hence the ranking system.
black blades gain durability but they don't gain power, i believe shuisui was already heavy before it turned black and it's heaviness allows for more destructive cuts, as zoro kinda predicted that outcome when he unsheathed it.
the durability can also be gained through infusing the sword with haki.

a power up imo is a free power that comes from external sources, so while enma's ability trades zoro's haki for damage i don't consider it a power up, but rather a support item.

and it's not only that zoro is a master swordsman (i'm sure there's a lot of that kind that won't be able to use enma, eg: kin'emon), but also the fact that he's a CoC user that allowed him to get used to it.

 

[Zowo]

wado has nothing to do with zoro taming enma or controlling it idk what story mfs been reading

 

[draganax]

When he hardens his blades, Enma's gimmick draws more than other swords and creates that haki cloud or whatever it is.
It never happened in Oden's hands tho and not sure how Zoro's haki would be different but there might be something to it...
There was no cloud during Asura, I think Zoro was too depleted because of Hakai block that required a huge haki barrier.

the cloud was there, but not as big as the previous attack because like you said zoro's haki was depleted after hakkai

maybe the cloud disappeared after zoro blasts a CoC wave when he transformed.

 

[Abysmal]

It's just a training tool for Zoro to better control and upgrade his CoA, it's a cursed sword too, stop with these bait threads already this forum is becoming real boring...
The whole point of Enma is to control the flow of haki ( Zoro cut a cliff while he meant to cut a tree, while we obviously know that even without Enma Zoro could cut the cliff if he wanted too). Again stop with these low effort debunked and recycled boring threads, where are the mods.

 

[ConquistadoR]

It never happened in Oden's hands tho and not sure how Zoro's haki would be different but there might be something to it...

i think that's because oden's been using it ever since he started using swords. he basically learnt his swordsmanship with enma so controlling and regulating it's immense haki extracting tendencies is second nature to him.

i think enma operates like training wheels that one use when learning to balance while riding a bicycle.

i guess once zoro masters using enma (controlling his haki flow), he'll be able to pool in similar amounts of haki onto the other two swords as well like he does with enma. by then we wouldnt be seeing sudden bursts of haki around enma alone like we see now.

 

[kumae]

Give these sword to any other swordsman and lets see what happens
Give these sword to Zoro in the Middle of the raid and lets see what happens

 

[thodoris5321]

It is a power up and he can achieve greater attacks. Just like every new sword Zoro gets, Oda makes sure to hype it up.
That doesn't mean that what he has done up until now with Enma, he wouldn't be able to do with Shushui. The story would stay the same.

 

[Courier]

Oda give enma to Zoro to kill the main villain WOROCHI

 

[mly90]

It's just a training tool for Zoro to better control and upgrade his CoA, it's a cursed sword too, stop with these bait threads already this forum is becoming real boring...
The whole point of Enma is to control the flow of haki ( Zoro cut a cliff while he meant to cut a tree, while we obviously know that even without Enma Zoro could cut the cliff if he wanted too). Again stop with these low effort debunked and recycled boring threads, where are the mods.

I think there are around hundreds threads about this sword filled with so much crap to undermine Zoro and these same people dare complain about Zoro fandom toxicity and play the victim

 

[anon]

@Peroroncino another guy whose first message is trashing zoro lol. Zoro really be living rent free

 

[mrtsrdr]

i don't think so, imo the deference between swords is decided by the quality of craftsmanship, hence the ranking system.
black blades gain durability but they don't gain power, i believe shuisui was already heavy before it turned black and it's heaviness allows for more destructive cuts, as zoro kinda predicted that outcome when he unsheathed it.
the durability can also be gained through infusing the sword with haki.

a power up imo is a free power that comes from external sources, so while enma's ability trades zoro's haki for damage i don't consider it a power up, but rather a support item.

and it's not only that zoro is a master swordsman (i'm sure there's a lot of that kind that won't be able to use enma, eg: kin'emon), but also the fact that he's a CoC user that allowed him to get used to it.

Shusiu may have better average ability. But enmas professional area cut anything by collecting all owner haki to one point . But shuisui can be more destructive than enma. That is difference. But if we think for Kaido fight , it is power up .

 

[stairs-kun]

Enma is a weakness. Shusui>Enma

 

[Peroroncino]

@Peroroncino another guy whose first message is trashing zoro lol. Zoro really be living rent free

Who dares disrespect the grandmaster?

 

[Man D Ingo]

wado has nothing to do with zoro taming enma or controlling it idk what story mfs been reading

I will not say that enma has not made Zoro stronger but this isnt an accurate description.


nothing of that sort was ever said. if anything it was only specified that enma draws the user's haki out more than what the user intends. handling it or "taming it" & regulating the amount of haki that's being put into each slash is a difficult process. there's a reason why no other swordsman could handle enma in the past, except kozuki oden ofcourse.

http://imgur.com/yhXTZmL

http://imgur.com/SE07CeD

This is a false narrative spinned by taking a sentence out of context. Zoro said that by the time he is used to the process of taming and regulating the amount of haki he puts into it, he'll be stronger. He has never once said that by using this blade he becomes stronger. He has been refining his haki control and the regulation process as he was training with it.

Luffy has gotten stronger while fighting and training with seastone cuffs in Act 2. So technically it made him stronger, so is seastone cuff a powerup too?

http://imgur.com/yhXTZmL

Kaido also openly acknowledged that he felt Oden's Ryou when the scabbards pierced him. Oden never used any of their swords so how do you think that Oden's soul is living in their swords? Until the Oden's Ryou part is explained fully, please refrain from making random jumps in logic to justify your headcanon.

http://imgur.com/a/uotrjoG

Moreover, this is the explanation of Ryou that Hyogoro gave to Luffy. A swordsman channel's his own haki through his blade. So if anything , Zoro has been using his own haki on his swords in the war.

http://imgur.com/oQ14wAy

The way I see it, Enma is like a training wheel until Zoro manages to do the same haki control + regulation thing with his other swords. Sorta like how Luffy gets stronger by training with seastone cuffs. Even if enma is channeling his haki outside, it still is Zoro's haki.

http://imgur.com/bpWvbAb

This kills the argue of what I said being false. Enma returns Zoro’s haki at request and the sword smith explains that Ichimonji helps use Enma to a degree

Post automatically merged: Aug 2, 2021

 

[ConquistadoR]

This kills the argue of what I said being false. Enma returns Zoro’s haki at request and the sword smith explains that Ichimonji helps use Enma to a degree

it isnt collecting haki from the surroundings and giving it to him. what it returns is the haki that enma oversapped. if anything that is zoro controlling enma's phenomena - handling it or "taming it" or regulating the amount of haki that's being put into it by virtue of his skill. how is it a powerup?

 

[Zowo]

http://imgur.com/bpWvbAb

This kills the argue of what I said being false. Enma returns Zoro’s haki at request and the sword smith explains that Ichimonji helps use Enma to a degree

Post automatically merged: Aug 2, 2021

the smith said enma feels familiar because wado and enma were made by the same person the fk has that to do with zoro taming it or controlling the haki flow?
didn t knew wado can take zoro s haki

 

[Man D Ingo]

I will not say that enma has not made Zoro stronger but this isnt an accurate description.


nothing of that sort was ever said. if anything it was only specified that enma draws the user's haki out more than what the user intends. handling it or "taming it" & regulating the amount of haki that's being put into each slash is a difficult process. there's a reason why no other swordsman could handle enma in the past, except kozuki oden ofcourse.

http://imgur.com/yhXTZmL

http://imgur.com/SE07CeD

This is a false narrative spinned by taking a sentence out of context. Zoro said that by the time he is used to the process of taming and regulating the amount of haki he puts into it, he'll be stronger. He has never once said that by using this blade he becomes stronger. He has been refining his haki control and the regulation process as he was training with it.

Luffy has gotten stronger while fighting and training with seastone cuffs in Act 2. So technically it made him stronger, so is seastone cuff a powerup too?

http://imgur.com/yhXTZmL

Kaido also openly acknowledged that he felt Oden's Ryou when the scabbards pierced him. Oden never used any of their swords so how do you think that Oden's soul is living in their swords? Until the Oden's Ryou part is explained fully, please refrain from making random jumps in logic to justify your headcanon.

http://imgur.com/a/uotrjoG

Moreover, this is the explanation of Ryou that Hyogoro gave to Luffy. A swordsman channel's his own haki through his blade. So if anything , Zoro has been using his own haki on his swords in the war.

http://imgur.com/oQ14wAy

The way I see it, Enma is like a training wheel until Zoro manages to do the same haki control + regulation thing with his other swords. Sorta like how Luffy gets stronger by training with seastone cuffs. Even if enma is channeling his haki outside, it still is Zoro's haki.

im sorry I’m new to this site but this proof of Ichimonji helping Zoro be about user Enma.

http://imgur.com/6BU7RH7

Post automatically merged: Aug 2, 2021

the smith said enma feels familiar because wado and enma were made by the same person the fk has that to do with zoro taming it or controlling the haki flow?
didn t knew wado can take zoro s haki

https://i.imgur.com/6BU7RH7.jpg