Controversial Enma is "not the king of hell"

[ConquistadoR]

I actually went back and checked out ch 1035
lol yeah you are right in most scenes he doesnt have it on, only when he is about to attack.
second point is very true

hmm
perhaps my gripe here is in places its used it should look a lot more significant
one could miss it esp when you arent watching closely and most definitely in the final attack
it was barely seen/ dominated with green colors.

think they will iron it out in more fight scenes though. am just now realizing he wasnt fighting with coc the entire time.

Yeah I'm just enjoying the episode for the vibes and how beautiful it is.
Standard policy when it comes to OP Anime is to turn the brain off and not take it too seriously.

But the point about Conquerors Haki extends to Armament too and Haki in general.
Characters only use it in their attacks, or when they need to. They don't just stand there with lightning streaking off of them all the time.
Even Kaidou only infuses CoC into his club when he swings, not when he just stands there. Same for CoA as well.

Only Zoro & Oden so far have had the requirement to keep exuding CoA all the time & that's due to Enma. Others not so much.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yeah I'm just enjoying the episode for the vibes and how beautiful it is.
Standard policy when it comes to OP Anime is to turn the brain off and not take it too seriously.

But the point about Conquerors Haki extends to Armament too and Haki in general.
Characters only use it in their attacks, or when they need to. They don't just stand there with lightning streaking off of them all the time.
Even Kaidou only infuses CoC into his club when he swings, not when he just stands there. Same for CoA as well.

Only Zoro & Oden so far have had the requirement to keep exuding CoA all the time & that's due to Enma. Others not so much.

I think in zoro's particular case I just kinda assumed he had to use it constantly but looking at the panels again I have a new perspective.
conquerors was used selectively. ryou was constantly active.


1000% on taking stuff casually with the anime
but I had folks watching with me that had very different interpretations of the scene primarily because to them these "auras" arent anything new.

 

[Rootbeer]

Does this clear your doubts @Rootbeer
Title of the episode: "The three sword style of the supreme king!"

That was at the end of the fight?.. Lets for a second say that the Anime isn't complete bullshit, that could be Raw base CoC..
Cause most of the fight Zoro's Haki Lightning was Red and Black, and that's proven in the manga to be CoA..

 

[ConquistadoR]

I think in zoro's particular case I just kinda assumed he had to use it constantly but looking at the panels again I have a new perspective.
conquerors was used selectively. ryou was constantly active.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-requirements-and-what-is-king-of-hell.21792/

This is a shameless plug, but i did try telling this to y'all ages ago

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-requirements-and-what-is-king-of-hell.21792/

This is a shameless plug, but i did try telling this to y'all ages ago

in essence he is using coc coating like every other fighter would
the sole reason why koh is that draining is due to enma's tendency. interesting.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Really?

Oda told all you "Yonko > underling" fanboy to sit down and shut up when he made Buggy the Yonko captain over Mihawk and Crocodile,

1- mihawk is a fraud
2- yonko>>>>>underlings go for ALL yonko crews with MAYBE the exception of CG

 

[bennbeckman]

Zoro... GOATEDDDDD

 

[Herrera95]

Zoro Ashura King of Hell=5 gir

???????

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

and so. Zoroboys told yonko-goofy-bitches that after 1033 chapters, Zoro can independently pour all his haki into the blades, regardless of the presence of enma. which is confirmed by the episode with the petrel's wing (when only sandai was covered with acoc) and the fact that Zoro ALREADY gave enma the necessary amount of haki on this frame, but ryoo was only on enma and there was no acoc.

in this frame, according to Zoro himself and the fact that the Hand has returned to normal, Zoro has already allowed enma to take as much haki as needed, but then he threw off all doubts and gave EVERYTHING to all his blades on his own along with acoc.
and this mode would be called the king of hell and Zoro can do it without the presence of Enma (although it was she who led him on this path as a "teacher" so that he would stop being afraid to release a ton of haki.)
the anime once again confirmed that enma has nothing to do with him directly (the mode of the king of hell).

1 Here is the enma mode (purple haki) in this mode, Zoro regulates how much haki will give enma (will allow you to suck). It was this mode that was used on the roof. in it, haki Zoro is only on enme and there is no acoc.

2 King hell mode. In this mode, Zoro INDEPENDENTLY pours all his haki into all three blades, regardless of enma. color haki green+acoc.
Reminder. Zoro Ashura King of Hell=5 gir>>Lol=King>=Sanji=Jimbei>Mid

Stop the anime scaling
Auras are not canon

 

[grey matter]

Yes he would

He would have awakened it at EoS

the guy didnt even know he had CoC within him when Kaido asks him...then even when he awakens it vs King, he still can't even control it.

yet you think he wouldn't struggle to awaken CiC without Enma

Enma = plot device to make Zoro get CoC and grow much stronger
More Oden wank!

He would awaken it sooner than EoS obviously. He would need it to fight Mihawk and whichever other top tier he gets in EoS

But yeah, denying Enma sped up his learning of conqueror's haki and advanced conqueror's haki is ridiculous

 

[Artem]

Enma Mode and King of Hell mode is the same thing.. There's no ''Enma Mode '' when Enma is unstable.. Common sense out the window..

Modes activate attributes to other blades, same as Ashura creating other versions of Wado and Yubashiri or Shusui..

1 Thin arm and pulling tons of haki =enma is not stable and pulls haki uncontrollably.
2 Battle on the roof = enma is stable, essentially the same as the first mode, but in it Zoro himself controls how much to give enma.
3 The mode of the King of Hell. Zoro independently gives haki to all three blades by pouring everything he has.
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He does need to use Enma to use KoH, just like he needs to use Sandai Kitetsu to use Ashura..

Ahahahaha

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???????

= 5 geare

 

[Rootbeer]

1 Thin arm and pulling tons of haki =enma is not stable and pulls haki uncontrollably.
2 Battle on the roof = enma is stable, essentially the same as the first mode, but in it Zoro himself controls how much to give enma.
3 The mode of the King of Hell. Zoro independently gives haki to all three blades by pouring everything he has.

Purple Enma has always been unstable..

Ahahahaha

He's holding Enma while doing it, if Enma is in its Scabbard, Zoro can't use KoH..

 

[kurwa]

Zoro based his whole personality and power on King of Hell Enma and depends on it to carry him to his dream

 

[Artem]

Purple Enma has always been unstable..


He's holding Enma while doing it, if Enma is in its Scabbard, Zoro can't use KoH..

1 Unstable enma=dry hand 2 Stable enma = roof (where Zoro controlled her and allowed her to take the required amount of haki). 3 Zoro King of Hell = self-infusion of all haki + acoc into all blades. What the anime confirmed after the manga even changed the color of haki. 4 How can an unactivated enma allow zoro to turn on haki on another blade, what kind of nonsense is a madman. Then when Zoro uses acoc in the style of a single sword on vado, will you say that enma ace still touches his body hanging on the scabbard activating acoc?😂😂😂
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Zoro based his whole personality and power on King of Hell Enma and depends on it to carry him to his dream

just Zoro is kind and gave the top 1 blade to vano shusui of the sword god and took a simpler blade that nerfed him. zoro vs King+Enma

 

[langitbarat]

Zoro does not need enma, but enma was the catalyst to zoro learning how to use advcoc, without it zoro won't have unlocked advcoc against king.

Yeah, it's simple like that.

Luffy - Nika DF - Awakening
Zoro - Enma - CoC
Sanji - Raid Suit - Exoskeleton

Sanji is the only one Oda dislike, thus RS got destroyed while the other 2 keep theirs.

 

[ThatLover]

@ThatWife is the queen of my heart

 

[Tai long]

Yeah, it's simple like that.

Luffy - Nika DF - Awakening
Zoro - Enma - CoC
Sanji - Raid Suit - Exoskeleton

Sanji is the only one Oda dislike, thus RS got destroyed while the other 2 keep theirs.

At least he kept the power up

 

[langitbarat]

At least he kept the power up

Yeah, otherwise he can't catch up to Zoro.
My point is Sanji can keep both like Zoro keeping Enma. RS defense alone is top, combining it with Exo would be dope.

Then again destroying RS is character moment. I guess Oda wants to convey that he cares about storytelling too and not always about power.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah, otherwise he can't catch up to Zoro.
My point is Sanji can keep both like Zoro keeping Enma. RS defense alone is top, combining it with Exo would be dope.

Then again destroying RS is character moment. I guess Oda wants to convey that he cares about storytelling too and not always about power.

Because the power up was IJ not the raid suit.

 

[langitbarat]

Because the power up was IJ not the raid suit.

The powerup is Exoskeleton, IJ is one manifestation of it.

My point is, if you can get +200 DEF, why settle for +100 DEF?

Then it struck me that Sanji's focus is always about the writing, and less about power. So if Oda can trade a portion of power for better writing, he will do it. And he did.