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#21
They havent shown nearly enough to be endgame villains either.
They aren't getting destroyed like the admirals are
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As of now Saturn Is King 2.0.

He Is not weak in general, but not nearly as strong as top tiers.
Luffy has made an effort to avoid his attacks because they're dangerous, compare that to kizaru who has very low AP
 
#28
Kaido bled from the same attack King took zero damage from. King>Kaido right?
Using a strawman isn't going to win you any arguments lol
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Kizaru literally barely used named moves lol. And he didn't in this fight at all.

This Is not a opinion, it's a fact lol.
That's denial, he was downed by white star gun and now he's downed again by Dawn cymbals.
 
#30
That's denial, he was downed by white star gun and now he's downed again by Dawn cymbals.
Yeah, as he was by the fist before, no lol? And before when he was grabbed, no? Lol
It's getting desperate at this point.

Like I said, it is not an opinion; it's a fact. Kizaru didn't use a single named move in this fight, at all.

And obv. he is not KO, we literally saw him moving.
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Kaido bled from the same attack King took zero damage from. King>Kaido right?
Win
 
#31
Yeah, as he was by the fist before, no lol? And before when he was grabbed, no? Lol
It's getting desperate at this point.

Like I said, it is not an opinion; it's a fact. Kizaru didn't use a single named move in this fight, at all.

And obv. he is not KO, we literally saw him moving.
Believing in delusions isn't going to go well for you dude
 
#34
And old woman that stopped Oden > Oden of course.
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I agree, you should at least concede facts.

Anyway, we'll see.
Again you're insane kizaru unless you want kizaru to be defeated by Luffy for a third time
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This isnt a strawman. You are durability scaling which is retarded.
Saturn has far better durability than kizaru, add in the fact that he has regen and kizaru wouldn't even be able to touch him.
 
#37
Sure kizaru is the reason why Luffy got exhausted like that

Show us the damage he did for luffy to be like that

Kizaru has lost twice now
Kizaru didn't even needed to damage him then lol.

And no, we saw Kizaru moving so he is not KO even this time, but we have just to wait as we had when someone was saying Kizaru was KO after the punch Nika throw him to save Bonney and Kuma (lol).

I really don't know why one has to go as far as saying he is KO, really.
 
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