Current Events Evolution of One Piece Theorization : My First Flat Earth Theory : Luffy doesn't have Advanced Conqueror's Haki
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One Piece "Theories" have always been more or less a waste of time and generally false., with very few, extremely rare occasions when a theory turns out to be true. The most recent one being @Monkey D Theories predicting Gorosei member coming to the Egg head Island. But one thing that can be said about One Piece theorization is that it points towards head canon, it predicts an occurrence that might happen in the future.
But @Rootbeer is the pioneer of new form of One Piece theory methodology, in which you deny the actual occurrence in manga, something that has been established as a Fact in the narrative, and basically deny reality.
We will call this approach to One Piece theory, The Flat Earth Approach as believing Earth is Flat is the most common form of reality denial.
A general template to the The Flat Earth Approach would go like this, and this is an 8 Step Approach.
Create an Arbitrary Criteria that has not been established in Manga - CoC is not Zoro's Haki specialty
A little bit more Arbitrary Criteria - He just unlocked CoC
Random Bullshit that has actually been Contradicted in Manga- AdCoC does not make people pass out, Base CoC does
Straight up Contradict Manga - AdCoC does '' not touch '', Zoro KoH do '' touch ''
WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up - Zoro's Haki trails in KoH are permanently stable, AdCoC trails are charging up and discharging, come and go
Use the Path Argument in your favor- Swordsman Haki path differs from Pirate Haki path
Grasp at Straws - Zoro's Haki trails colors are not Red, therefore not AdCoC
Well let me use that 8 Step Approach to formulate my own One Piece theory based on the Flat Earth Approach
ARBITARY CRITERIA # 1
Luffy is not a weapon user, Weapon users are the only Users that have advCoC
Lets trace the manga chronologically, and find out that Weapon Users (Majority of whom being swordsmen) are the only ones who can use AdvCoC
Roger and Whitebeard introduce AdvCoC both weapon user
Zoro and Oden are AdvCoC users who are Samurai like swordsmen
Shanks and Rayleigh are AdvCoC users who are Swordsmen
Kaido is a weapon user
What does this tell us guys??
Only weapon users can use advCoC
ARBITARY CRITERIA # 2
Rayleigh is an advCoC user, Rayleigh never told Luffy about advCoC because he saw that Luffy is not capable of unlocking advCoC.
Luffy trained with AdvCoC Master, one of the greatest AdvCoC users of all time and Rayleigh never bothered mentioning AdvCoC to Luffy despite it being such an important power in the World of One piece.
That proves that Luffy doesn't have advCoC
RANDOM BULLSHIT
AdvCoC doesn't make people pass out, Base CoC does
We saw how many people passed out from Luffy using his Base CoC in Wano after unlocking Gear 5th. Clearly if he was an advCoC user no one would pass out.
CONTRADICTING MANGA
Actually advCoC touches, Luffy does no touch
Check out thee advCoC attacks, they all touch
Since Luffy's attacks don't touch, that is advCoA which makes sense since Luffy said AdvCoA that Hyogoro taught him allows him to beat people without touching them..
WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up
Luffy's own Haki trails are too small, AdvCoC Haki trials are too long. Luffy can only get long trails when he is clashing with someone and that is the quality of Base CoC. AdvCoC trails have to be very very long, extremely Long
Luffy also hasn't shown reverse kame hame Ha which is integral component of AdvCoC
THE PATH ARGUMENT
AdvCoC is weapon user's path and Luffy is a Brawler
A Brawler like Luffy and Garp use No Touch which is Advanced Ryou as Luffy described and Garp even made that weird bubble that is clearly Ryou
Grasp at Straws
Luffy hasn't shown long advCoC trails so no advCoC
Guys instead of disrespecting Rootbear, understand where he is coming from, give him your own flat earth narratives rather than arguing him in simplistic manners.
Mods better not move my thread to Ground Floor unless they are willing to move every single @Rootbeer thread to Ground Floor as well, otherwise I will just copy paste it in manga section again anyways.
ally contest it..look my shoes don't curve
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But @Rootbeer is the pioneer of new form of One Piece theory methodology, in which you deny the actual occurrence in manga, something that has been established as a Fact in the narrative, and basically deny reality.
We will call this approach to One Piece theory, The Flat Earth Approach as believing Earth is Flat is the most common form of reality denial.
A general template to the The Flat Earth Approach would go like this, and this is an 8 Step Approach.
Create an Arbitrary Criteria that has not been established in Manga - CoC is not Zoro's Haki specialty
A little bit more Arbitrary Criteria - He just unlocked CoC
Random Bullshit that has actually been Contradicted in Manga- AdCoC does not make people pass out, Base CoC does
Straight up Contradict Manga - AdCoC does '' not touch '', Zoro KoH do '' touch ''
WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up - Zoro's Haki trails in KoH are permanently stable, AdCoC trails are charging up and discharging, come and go
Use the Path Argument in your favor- Swordsman Haki path differs from Pirate Haki path
Grasp at Straws - Zoro's Haki trails colors are not Red, therefore not AdCoC
Well let me use that 8 Step Approach to formulate my own One Piece theory based on the Flat Earth Approach
ARBITARY CRITERIA # 1
Luffy is not a weapon user, Weapon users are the only Users that have advCoC
Lets trace the manga chronologically, and find out that Weapon Users (Majority of whom being swordsmen) are the only ones who can use AdvCoC
Roger and Whitebeard introduce AdvCoC both weapon user
Zoro and Oden are AdvCoC users who are Samurai like swordsmen
Shanks and Rayleigh are AdvCoC users who are Swordsmen
Kaido is a weapon user
What does this tell us guys??
Only weapon users can use advCoC
ARBITARY CRITERIA # 2
Rayleigh is an advCoC user, Rayleigh never told Luffy about advCoC because he saw that Luffy is not capable of unlocking advCoC.
Luffy trained with AdvCoC Master, one of the greatest AdvCoC users of all time and Rayleigh never bothered mentioning AdvCoC to Luffy despite it being such an important power in the World of One piece.
That proves that Luffy doesn't have advCoC
RANDOM BULLSHIT
AdvCoC doesn't make people pass out, Base CoC does
We saw how many people passed out from Luffy using his Base CoC in Wano after unlocking Gear 5th. Clearly if he was an advCoC user no one would pass out.
CONTRADICTING MANGA
Actually advCoC touches, Luffy does no touch
Check out thee advCoC attacks, they all touch
Since Luffy's attacks don't touch, that is advCoA which makes sense since Luffy said AdvCoA that Hyogoro taught him allows him to beat people without touching them..
WTF does this even mean lmao : At this step just make some shit up
Luffy's own Haki trails are too small, AdvCoC Haki trials are too long. Luffy can only get long trails when he is clashing with someone and that is the quality of Base CoC. AdvCoC trails have to be very very long, extremely Long
Luffy also hasn't shown reverse kame hame Ha which is integral component of AdvCoC
THE PATH ARGUMENT
AdvCoC is weapon user's path and Luffy is a Brawler
A Brawler like Luffy and Garp use No Touch which is Advanced Ryou as Luffy described and Garp even made that weird bubble that is clearly Ryou
Grasp at Straws
Luffy hasn't shown long advCoC trails so no advCoC
Guys instead of disrespecting Rootbear, understand where he is coming from, give him your own flat earth narratives rather than arguing him in simplistic manners.
Mods better not move my thread to Ground Floor unless they are willing to move every single @Rootbeer thread to Ground Floor as well, otherwise I will just copy paste it in manga section again anyways.
ally contest it..look my shoes don't curve
@Fleet Leader Fenaker
@ZenZu
@Elder Lee Hung
@SakazOuki
@Hanzo hattori
@RayanOO
@Monkey D Theories
@Red Admiral
@Seraphoenix
@Tejas
@JoNdule
@SkySanji
@Shiroyru
@ConquistadoR
@Franosuke
@Seth
@TheAncientCenturion
@Gol D. Roger
I am not scared to but I am giving my honest attempt at addressing your arguments. If I were to try to convince someone who believes "Earth is Flat" that earth isn't flat, I would probably do the same thing.
But Flat Earthers are such a rare occurence that you sorta kinda expect everyone to already know
Anyways you have yet to show me Luffy using AdvCoC. You have to show me touch CoC attack from Luffy to prove that Luffy uses advCoC since all the no touch attacks are categorized as AdvCoA.
But Flat Earthers are such a rare occurence that you sorta kinda expect everyone to already know
Anyways you have yet to show me Luffy using AdvCoC. You have to show me touch CoC attack from Luffy to prove that Luffy uses advCoC since all the no touch attacks are categorized as AdvCoA.
You didn't argue much, you deflected most of the time like your other friend..
Look at Oda's inconsistencies instead of pleasing your own biases.. Contextual narrative matters more than random fight panels..
AdCoC was introduced on chapter 1010 and it specifically mention and called back to Roger and Whitebeard..
Pretty simple..
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Look at Oda's inconsistencies instead of pleasing your own biases.. Contextual narrative matters more than random fight panels..
AdCoC was introduced on chapter 1010 and it specifically mention and called back to Roger and Whitebeard..
Pretty simple..