Anime & Manga Expectation and reality
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Sanji: Has something that gives him 5 new abilities and alters his DNA forever giving him a fighting chance against a commander.
Zoro: Uses a weapon that goes against his will and disadvantages him mid battle causing him to almost die.
The Conclusion You come to: Sanji handles commander better. Same commander that’s hyping up Zoro’s fight 😂
Zoro: Uses a weapon that goes against his will and disadvantages him mid battle causing him to almost die.
The Conclusion You come to: Sanji handles commander better. Same commander that’s hyping up Zoro’s fight 😂
So the regen thing I don't understand. We've seen his sister get shot and almost die and not regen but sanji can? Idk how that works.
It's not confirmed invisibility yet but we'll see.
Speeds definitely not part of the exoskeleton powerup. Thats called headcanon and so is the power part. That's never been implied once.
It's not confirmed invisibility yet but we'll see.
Speeds definitely not part of the exoskeleton powerup. Thats called headcanon and so is the power part. That's never been implied once.
You can count it... but it's redundant. It's pointless to say he had a powerup if that very same powerup has been destroyed. He's not gonna use it going forward or to even finish the arc he first used the raid suit in.
So what's the point in saying he had a powerup? It's not part of the equation anymore.
So what's the point in saying he had a powerup? It's not part of the equation anymore.
Its not about saying he had powerups. I do not fault Oda nor Sanji for that.
It makes logical sense. Sanji's weaknesses are checked by now. He's good.
I'm just saying all of these were beneficial powerups.
All of them aid him in a high degree.
Unlike Zoro, for which his Powerups were earned through disadvantages and training.
No shade to Sanji tho, he earned the Raid Suit + Germa Tech through hardship, imprisonment, and Judge.
It makes logical sense. Sanji's weaknesses are checked by now. He's good.
I'm just saying all of these were beneficial powerups.
All of them aid him in a high degree.
Unlike Zoro, for which his Powerups were earned through disadvantages and training.
No shade to Sanji tho, he earned the Raid Suit + Germa Tech through hardship, imprisonment, and Judge.
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Expectation and Reality
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
Expectation and Reality
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
They don’t understand that Emma is draining zoro haki away.
You have to tame Emma sword so you can use it to full potential.
Emma is like wild animal is very hard to tame and can kill you anytime. Like tiger or hippo.
Think of this way comparing Emma to wild animal when it tame them.
Most people can tame local dogs or cats but can’t tame wild animal like lion, tigers, or even hippo.
Very few people tame wild animal like tigers, lions, and even wolverine. Same thing few people like zoro or oden tame Emma sword.
If you tame and have wolverine as guard pet, your house robber are in past problem.
You have to tame Emma sword so you can use it to full potential.
Emma is like wild animal is very hard to tame and can kill you anytime. Like tiger or hippo.
Think of this way comparing Emma to wild animal when it tame them.
Most people can tame local dogs or cats but can’t tame wild animal like lion, tigers, or even hippo.
Very few people tame wild animal like tigers, lions, and even wolverine. Same thing few people like zoro or oden tame Emma sword.
If you tame and have wolverine as guard pet, your house robber are in past problem.
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Expectation and Reality
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
Sanjis Fans before and during the Raid:
1 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Kyoshiro, Sanji will fight King"
*Kyoshiro is revealed to be Denjiro*
2 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Orochi, Sanji will fight King"
*Zoro destroys Apoo and Queen's Gun*
3 - "Zoro will not see Kaido, he will fight Queen and Sanji will fight King"
*Marco takes Zoro to the Rooftop*
4 - "Zoro will go to the rooftop and help out as an assist, but won't do anything to Kaido or Big Mom, Sanji will low diff Queen and then High Diff King"
*Zoro cuts Boro's Breath and Big Mom's fire left and right, saves Luffy's ass, cuts Kaido Dragon's form*
5 - "Zoro will help a bit against Kaido and Big Mom, but he won't scar Kaido, he will get knocked out for the arc and Luffy is gonna 1v1, Sanji is still going to low diff Queen and High Diff King as soon as he escapes Black Maria"
*Zoro uses Asura, Conqueror's Haki, scars Kaido*
6 - "Zoro doesn't have Conqueror's, Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about, it was all Enma, the scar is very little, doesn't do anything, and also Sanji is gonna destroy Queen and King, best aerial fight in the series"
*Zoro goes down, Sanji escapes Black Maria and carries him around*
7 - "Look how weak Zoro is, that was because of Enma, he is down for the arc, won't do anything else, you guys should be glad, now Sanji is gonna carry him and defeat both Queen and King"
*Sanji starts fighting Queen and gives Zoro to the doctors*
8 - "See? we told you!"
*Zoro gets healed, Sanji gets his ass beat by Queen and King at the same time, Zoro comes for the save, Zoro vs King and Sanji vs Queen*
9 - "It's a 2v2 see? they are both fighting both, we're still gonna get goodness from Sanji vs King, just you wait"
*Fight keeps going, King doesn't interact with Sanji and Queen doesn't interact with Zoro at all, not a 2v2*
10 - "It's fine, King is weak anyway, Queen looks much stronger"
*Queen keeps spamming laser beams, King uses all three forms, flies, conjures fires and explosions, uses hand to hand and kicking the same level of Sanji, uses swordsmanship, uses trick sword from fucking Bloodborne, tanks attacks that even damaged Kaido like it was nothing*
11 - "Queen and King are equally strong, as you can see"
*Sanji awakens Germa genes and Queen's Nameless / Rankless / Hakiless blade breaks attacking Sanji*
12 - "Best Durability Feat of the Series, Sanji will break Zoro's swords if he attacks him, even if Zoro uses Asura, won't matter"
*Zoro having a hard time against King, because King is a fucking monster, Enma starts acting up*
13 - "lmao, Zoro so weak, vet level, look magic sword Enma can't carry you anymore, so pathetic"
*Zoro learns how cursed blades work and his past, in a single chapter uses base form Conqueror's Haki and Adv. Conqueror's Haki in all three swords, not just Enma*
14 - "Sanji will have Conqueror's too"
I'm fucking done
*Zoro blocks Hakai alone, gets teleported alongside the Roof 5, Kid thanks Zoro for saving their ass*
"Zoro just blocked it for less than a second, anyone could've done it, Sanji would've blocked it even better"