Questions & Mysteries Explain to me why people don't think Sabo should beat Akainu

#1
Akainu's purpose as a purpose as a character, when you really get down to it, is to embody the ideas of Absolute Justice. Akainu is less a character with his own motives, personality, background, etc as he is a stand-in for the World Government's dogma.
His establishing character moment is him killing a soldier for not falling in line with the Marines' orders
Immediately after this scene, by the way, is Doflamingo's "justice" speech.

This contrast is very telling. The point here is that Akainu represents everything wrong with the World Government's definition of justice. Akainu is the reason why people like the Celestial Dragons continue to exist. He represents the fanatic dogmatism that keeps them in power.

This also gives additional meaning to Akainu being the one to kill Ace in the end. Ace, throughout his entire life, was oppressed by the World Government's dogma. He was seen not as his own person, but instead as a mere extension of Roger's legacy.




According to the world government's ideology, Ace never should have existed. His existence is a crime that he deserved to be punished for. And in the end, that ideology killed him.


Luffy is a pirate. Being a pirate is not a political position. Pirates do not serve anyone nor do they champion certain ideas. Luffy, for his part, does not fighting for political reasons, but rather because he's a guy who easily makes friends and is deeply loyal to them.

Sabo, however, is a revolutionary. Being a revolutionary is a political position. It is a position that is in direct contrast to the belief that the World Government is inherently right





Sabo, when he defeats Akainu, will not only be avenging his brother Ace, but will also be proving the entire ideology that Akainu represents to be wrong.
This is why Sabo has Ace's fruit. He will use what Ace left behind prove that Ace did, in fact, have a right to exist.


This is good writing. Sabo defeating Akainu would be far more thematically fitting than if Luffy were to defeat him.





Admiral fans tend to react negatively to the idea of Sabo vs Akainu, but honestly it should happen. It makes perfect sense.
 
#2
This is actually pretty well thought out.

It won't receive any responses because Akainu fans think Akainu isn't really actually loyal to the WG or Celestial Dragons.

In fact. Akainu is literally introduced by blowing up a civilian ship just because a single scholar might get away.

He's no different than how Sengoku was portrayed during Ohara. Actually much worse. Especially when every other major character involved in Ohara knew what the WG was doing was wrong. Dragon, Vegapunk, Saul, Kuzan all wasn't a fan of what happened there.
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Sengoku during Ohara for reference

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#3
the higher up marine most loyal to the celestial dragons is not akainu, he talked back to the five elders, but ryokugyu. aramaki is a logia user like sabo and there are many more reasons. when akainu gave luffy the big scar, a future fight was set in stone.
 
#5
Akainu's purpose as a purpose as a character, when you really get down to it, is to embody the ideas of Absolute Justice. Akainu is less a character with his own motives, personality, background, etc as he is a stand-in for the World Government's dogma.
His establishing character moment is him killing a soldier for not falling in line with the Marines' orders
Immediately after this scene, by the way, is Doflamingo's "justice" speech.

This contrast is very telling. The point here is that Akainu represents everything wrong with the World Government's definition of justice. Akainu is the reason why people like the Celestial Dragons continue to exist. He represents the fanatic dogmatism that keeps them in power.

This also gives additional meaning to Akainu being the one to kill Ace in the end. Ace, throughout his entire life, was oppressed by the World Government's dogma. He was seen not as his own person, but instead as a mere extension of Roger's legacy.




According to the world government's ideology, Ace never should have existed. His existence is a crime that he deserved to be punished for. And in the end, that ideology killed him.


Luffy is a pirate. Being a pirate is not a political position. Pirates do not serve anyone nor do they champion certain ideas. Luffy, for his part, does not fighting for political reasons, but rather because he's a guy who easily makes friends and is deeply loyal to them.

Sabo, however, is a revolutionary. Being a revolutionary is a political position. It is a position that is in direct contrast to the belief that the World Government is inherently right





Sabo, when he defeats Akainu, will not only be avenging his brother Ace, but will also be proving the entire ideology that Akainu represents to be wrong.
This is why Sabo has Ace's fruit. He will use what Ace left behind prove that Ace did, in fact, have a right to exist.


This is good writing. Sabo defeating Akainu would be far more thematically fitting than if Luffy were to defeat him.





Admiral fans tend to react negatively to the idea of Sabo vs Akainu, but honestly it should happen. It makes perfect sense.
Only latrine and latrinemiral fans don't think. I think Sabo should neg diff Lakainu and Luffy should put a bigger hole in his ass and stomach.
 
#12
Akainu's purpose as a purpose as a character, when you really get down to it, is to embody the ideas of Absolute Justice. Akainu is less a character with his own motives, personality, background, etc as he is a stand-in for the World Government's dogma.
His establishing character moment is him killing a soldier for not falling in line with the Marines' orders
Immediately after this scene, by the way, is Doflamingo's "justice" speech.

This contrast is very telling. The point here is that Akainu represents everything wrong with the World Government's definition of justice. Akainu is the reason why people like the Celestial Dragons continue to exist. He represents the fanatic dogmatism that keeps them in power.

This also gives additional meaning to Akainu being the one to kill Ace in the end. Ace, throughout his entire life, was oppressed by the World Government's dogma. He was seen not as his own person, but instead as a mere extension of Roger's legacy.




According to the world government's ideology, Ace never should have existed. His existence is a crime that he deserved to be punished for. And in the end, that ideology killed him.


Luffy is a pirate. Being a pirate is not a political position. Pirates do not serve anyone nor do they champion certain ideas. Luffy, for his part, does not fighting for political reasons, but rather because he's a guy who easily makes friends and is deeply loyal to them.

Sabo, however, is a revolutionary. Being a revolutionary is a political position. It is a position that is in direct contrast to the belief that the World Government is inherently right





Sabo, when he defeats Akainu, will not only be avenging his brother Ace, but will also be proving the entire ideology that Akainu represents to be wrong.
This is why Sabo has Ace's fruit. He will use what Ace left behind prove that Ace did, in fact, have a right to exist.


This is good writing. Sabo defeating Akainu would be far more thematically fitting than if Luffy were to defeat him.





Admiral fans tend to react negatively to the idea of Sabo vs Akainu, but honestly it should happen. It makes perfect sense.
Sabo should decisively fight and defeat Akainu.
 
#15
Akainu's purpose as a purpose as a character, when you really get down to it, is to embody the ideas of Absolute Justice. Akainu is less a character with his own motives, personality, background, etc as he is a stand-in for the World Government's dogma.
His establishing character moment is him killing a soldier for not falling in line with the Marines' orders
Immediately after this scene, by the way, is Doflamingo's "justice" speech.

This contrast is very telling. The point here is that Akainu represents everything wrong with the World Government's definition of justice. Akainu is the reason why people like the Celestial Dragons continue to exist. He represents the fanatic dogmatism that keeps them in power.

This also gives additional meaning to Akainu being the one to kill Ace in the end. Ace, throughout his entire life, was oppressed by the World Government's dogma. He was seen not as his own person, but instead as a mere extension of Roger's legacy.




According to the world government's ideology, Ace never should have existed. His existence is a crime that he deserved to be punished for. And in the end, that ideology killed him.


Luffy is a pirate. Being a pirate is not a political position. Pirates do not serve anyone nor do they champion certain ideas. Luffy, for his part, does not fighting for political reasons, but rather because he's a guy who easily makes friends and is deeply loyal to them.

Sabo, however, is a revolutionary. Being a revolutionary is a political position. It is a position that is in direct contrast to the belief that the World Government is inherently right





Sabo, when he defeats Akainu, will not only be avenging his brother Ace, but will also be proving the entire ideology that Akainu represents to be wrong.
This is why Sabo has Ace's fruit. He will use what Ace left behind prove that Ace did, in fact, have a right to exist.


This is good writing. Sabo defeating Akainu would be far more thematically fitting than if Luffy were to defeat him.





Admiral fans tend to react negatively to the idea of Sabo vs Akainu, but honestly it should happen. It makes perfect sense.
1. It's more thematic if Fleet Admiral vs Revo Leader

2. If Sabo fights Akainu, who's Dragon gonna fight?

3. Dragon always calls Luffy as "Dragon's son" during the entire Marineford scene, implying a relations.
 
#17
It’s all cute but Akainu is the only villain to mentally break the protagonist and his unshakable willpower in 1000 chapters. By making Luffy realize how powerless he was, he’s basically responsible for the timeskip.
Luffy is now at peace with Ace’s death, yet his scar still throb at the mention of Akainu. Pretty huge deal considering the scar Shanks received from Blackbeard and the scar Kaido received from Oden act the same.

For once we have a villain that is personally connected to Luffy emotionally but people find all kind of cope for them to not face each other lol

This is just recency bias due to Akainu not being much involved in the plot during the emperors saga, at the beginning of the the timeskip Luffy vs Blackbeard and Luffy vs Akainu were the two certain fights in the fandom.
 
#18
Well to put it simply, Luffy defeated the man who killed Corazon instead of Law; in what world do you imagine Oda not having Luffy battle the one who killed his brother right Infront of him. Sabo has had a hatred for Royals and Nobles since he was a child, even wishing he wasn't born as one. His mission in the story will be to play a pivotal role in the dismantlement of the Celestial Dragons, the most Royal of all Royals, those who tortured his close friend (Kuma) and the physical manifestation of what Sabo hates the most.
 
#19
Akainu's purpose as a purpose as a character, when you really get down to it, is to embody the ideas of Absolute Justice. Akainu is less a character with his own motives, personality, background, etc as he is a stand-in for the World Government's dogma.
His establishing character moment is him killing a soldier for not falling in line with the Marines' orders
Immediately after this scene, by the way, is Doflamingo's "justice" speech.

This contrast is very telling. The point here is that Akainu represents everything wrong with the World Government's definition of justice. Akainu is the reason why people like the Celestial Dragons continue to exist. He represents the fanatic dogmatism that keeps them in power.

This also gives additional meaning to Akainu being the one to kill Ace in the end. Ace, throughout his entire life, was oppressed by the World Government's dogma. He was seen not as his own person, but instead as a mere extension of Roger's legacy.




According to the world government's ideology, Ace never should have existed. His existence is a crime that he deserved to be punished for. And in the end, that ideology killed him.


Luffy is a pirate. Being a pirate is not a political position. Pirates do not serve anyone nor do they champion certain ideas. Luffy, for his part, does not fighting for political reasons, but rather because he's a guy who easily makes friends and is deeply loyal to them.

Sabo, however, is a revolutionary. Being a revolutionary is a political position. It is a position that is in direct contrast to the belief that the World Government is inherently right





Sabo, when he defeats Akainu, will not only be avenging his brother Ace, but will also be proving the entire ideology that Akainu represents to be wrong.
This is why Sabo has Ace's fruit. He will use what Ace left behind prove that Ace did, in fact, have a right to exist.


This is good writing. Sabo defeating Akainu would be far more thematically fitting than if Luffy were to defeat him.





Admiral fans tend to react negatively to the idea of Sabo vs Akainu, but honestly it should happen. It makes perfect sense.
first of all he can't. You do not simply beat akainu. Sabo might be powerful and all but he's just not on that level. Bro couldn't even bring old man fujitora to sweat.

Akainu is the only fleet admiral who, on panel, spoke up to the WG. There's been tensions between the WG and marine since he's in charge. That's not because he's a loyal lapdog, it's because he does his job right, generally wants to uphold peace and keep the balance. The WG and cp0 however follow different agendas. They make business with the exact forces akainu is fighting day and night. If Akainu could, he would destroy all piracy and corruption. Who do you think would be his next goal then? He's the exact type of person that would pull a miliary coup.

The WG itself is not such a bad thing to be honest. It's just the corrupt tenryubito/gorosei/imu and their agenda that's bad. Due to them things such as slavery are still topic. Racism towards fishmen is driven by the WG personally. Imo it's because their island is right under the red line and in a very crucial geographical position.

Imagine having a world government that ensures safety for everyone, not only physical but also economical and political. That's what akainu wants I think. And yes, he's a military so he spreads his idealogy not with words but with force. But that doesn't make him a bad person. I'm highly sceptical about his role during the ohara incident - and I still believe the WG + sencuck told him the same lies they told the public.

I'd rather have a powerful but not corrupt military WG rather than a bunch of commies in charge, tbh.

That's why sabo shouldn't kill/beat akainu.
 
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