General & Others Fake lore

[lee33]

Oda regurgitating things we already knew just like how he did in Oden's flashback. Oda still using "that kingdom", "that machinery", etc. Then we learned the books weren't destroyed which creates two problems and one just weird one:

1. If the books are relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than what is the point of all the effort placed on the poneglyphs?
2. If the books aren't relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than it is filler.
3. Vegapunk says he read every single book that survived Ohara but then asks Robin to verify his guess that Ohara was researching the Ancient Kingdom? Like what? Mr. Editor how did that just slip by your proofreading?

Also, why are Nami, Usopp, Sanji surprised in this chapter? We already knew this hundreds of chapters ago. Does Robin not talk to her crew?

 

[Cruxroux]

I see it as totally different things. Its law type of people who would be interested in those history and lore not the PK title. Luffy is brain dead won't read books , he just wanna be pirate king in order to do that he gotta reach laughtale. And for the ponelglyps is required.

So both ponelglyps and books stays relevant to the story. Books of extra lore. And ponelglyps for location.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Let me guess, this is @lee33 classic OP slander threads?

 

[Akuma_Law]

Oda regurgitating things we already knew just like how he did in Oden's flashback. Oda still using "that kingdom", "that machinery", etc. Then we learned the books weren't destroyed which creates two problems:

1. If the books are relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than what is the point of all the effort placed on the poneglyphs?
2. If the books aren't relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than it is filler.

Also, why are Nami, Usopp, Sanji surprised in this chapter? We already knew this hundreds of chapters ago. Does Robin not talk to her crew?

Isn’t the knowledge on those books are derived from the ponegliffs in the first place? So what’s the problem? Ohara had the knowledge to decipher them thanks to Clover traveling and discovering everything about them hence why they had those information in those books

also Robin left the island young before having the chance to know about everything and after joining the crew, she just started exploring, and most of the ponegliffs she encountered so far didn’t seem to include any broader details yet about the lost kingdom, it was mostly just about the ancient weapons

 

[lee33]

Isn’t the knowledge on those books are derived from the ponegliffs in the first place? So what’s the problem? Ohara had the knowledge to decipher them thanks to Clover traveling and discovering everything about them hence why they had those information in those books

also Robin left the island young before having the chance to know about everything and after joining the crew, she just started exploring, and most of the ponegliffs she encountered so far didn’t seem to include any broader details yet about the lost kingdom, it was mostly just about the ancient weapons

Just take a minute to actually understand what you said. First, if that knowledge is from the poneglyphs then that means Clover went to the New World, went to Big Mom territory, went to Wano who is ruled by Kaido, went to Zou which is a moving elephant, etc. That opens up even more inconsistency to the story if that is true. Second, let us assume Clover did all that, then what he did is exactly what Luffy and his crew are doing right now thus making the whole book narrative completely repetitive and unnecessary.

And idk what you mean by your second paragraph.
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Let me guess, this is @lee33 classic OP slander threads?

I don't slander, I keeps it real.

 

[notAfanboy]

Same product, in different packaging., i.e., same information, but from different characters.
However, I liked the current pace, don't have too much to complain about. Just that if Oda gave an update about Sabo and Law that would have been awesome.
But I am getting used to it now (after several rants).

 

[Impact_Dial]

Well all I know is this op gonna not be sleeping well when imu gives him nightmares while demonstrating true oppression in a future chapter

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

You mean the books written by the Scholars of Ohara, based on their findings of what they read off the Poneglyphs? Did you think they were going to research the Poneglyphs, and not write anything down? Just keep it memorized? *facepalm*

 

[Herrera95]

It seems readers didn't understood the point of burning O'Hara was to not allow any knowledge of Void Century to exist. Then it doesn't make a bit of sense to let those books there.

 

[NAMELESS]

Oda regurgitating things we already knew just like how he did in Oden's flashback. Oda still using "that kingdom", "that machinery", etc. Then we learned the books weren't destroyed which creates two problems:

1. If the books are relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than what is the point of all the effort placed on the poneglyphs?
2. If the books aren't relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than it is filler.

Also, why are Nami, Usopp, Sanji surprised in this chapter? We already knew this hundreds of chapters ago. Does Robin not talk to her crew?

As i see it,the books are a compilation of poneglyphs.So they will make straw hats work easier.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

It seems readers didn't understood the point of burning O'Hara was to not allow any knowledge of Void Century to exist. Then it doesn't make a bit of sense to let those books there.

There was no confirmation that any of the Marines even found the books.... Vegapunk said IF any of the marines found the books, then they were too ignorant to understand their value. He never said that they actually found them, or knew of their existence.

Yall keep acting like it's a concrete fact that the Marines found the books, and just left them there....

 

[Fn Lucci]

The books don't have all of the pone glyph info. If that's how you choose to read the chapter then sit back and wait for Stephen.

 

[Herrera95]

There was no confirmation that any of the Marines even found the books.... Vegapunk said IF any of the marines found the books, then they were too ignorant to understand their value. He never said that they actually found them, or knew of their existence.

Yall keep acting like it's a concrete fact that the Marines found the books, and just left them there....

If they didn't found is simply poor writing because that was their objective.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

If they didn't found is simply poor writing because that was their objective.

What was? To look for books? And that's stated where exactly?

 

[Salah WG]

This Story about Top Scholars trying to save their Books by throwing them in a River (Lake in OP) is based on Real History, Books that if they were fully saved, Science would have been much more Advanced irl, but how could you know about this, all you can think about is how to slander

Apparently even inspiring from Real History is considered Bad Writing and Fake Lore now

 

[Monster Luffy]

Bruh. I feel like some blokes are so impotent that they read one piece just to slander or their reading ability is even lower than bird. They just come here to ruin the enjoyment for others.

 

[Peenix]

Oda regurgitating things we already knew just like how he did in Oden's flashback. Oda still using "that kingdom", "that machinery", etc. Then we learned the books weren't destroyed which creates two problems and one just weird one:

1. If the books are relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than what is the point of all the effort placed on the poneglyphs?
2. If the books aren't relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than it is filler.
3. Vegapunk says he read every single book that survived Ohara but then asks Robin to verify his guess that Ohara was researching the Ancient Kingdom? Like what? Mr. Editor how did that just slip by your proofreading?

I mean you realize that Vegapunk was actively trying not to give away information, right?

But anyway
1. The books were based on the Poneglyphs probably, but also only a minority of them were about the Void Century. Ohara was researching all kinds of history, not just the Void Century
2. No because it's important to Robin's character
3. The character asking that is Nami, not Shaka

Also, why are Nami, Usopp, Sanji surprised in this chapter? We already knew this hundreds of chapters ago. Does Robin not talk to her crew?

I'd imagine she didn't want to talk about her traumatic past

 

[SakazOuki]

-If the books are relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than what is the point of all the effort placed on the poneglyphs?
These books are likely not related to the void century but simply scientific, cultural & linguistic literature that belonged to the ancient kingdom.
The poneglyphs were written by Joyboy himself to drop some lore on the void century and guide people to One Piece

-If the books aren't relevant to the One Piece/Void Century than it is filler.
Not necessarily, they will be used to restore the current civilization to its former glory.

-Vegapunk says he read every single book that survived Ohara but then asks Robin to verify his guess that Ohara was researching the Ancient Kingdom? Like what? Mr. Editor how did that just slip by your proofreading?
This depends on the content of the books themselves. Don’t forget that both Robin and Clover read some poneglyphs but not VP.
Ofcourse this is my logical reasoning so far, if the books are also concerned with the void century then I agree it’s total bullshit.

 

[lee33]

I mean you realize that Vegapunk was actively trying not to give away information, right?

But anyway
1. The books were based on the Poneglyphs probably, but also only a minority of them were about the Void Century. Ohara was researching all kinds of history, not just the Void Century
2. No because it's important to Robin's character
3. The character asking that is Nami, not Shaka

Huh? "Not trying to give away information"? That is exactly what my post is about dude, that is "FAKE LORE".

1. Idc about your headcanon.
2. No it is not.
3. You need to go learn how to read, that was VP who said that.

I'd imagine she didn't want to talk about her traumatic past

Huh? You mean the exact traumatic past Vegapunk is telling her in this chapter? Another Goda excuse huh?

 

[Peenix]

That is exactly what my post is about dude, that is "FAKE LORE".

Except it's not a lore dump? It's just establishing that Shaka knows about it

1. They were researching things other than just the Void Century. That's not headcanon
2. It's literally the legacy of the archeologists she grew up with
3. No. The speech bubble is pointed at Nami and she has her mouth opened. The dialogue is informal, which isn't how Shaka speaks. Nami's the one talking.

You mean the exact traumatic past Vegapunk is telling her in this chapter?

Yes? What does that have to do with anything?