General & Others Feats never mattered. Stop it

[HA001]

Zoro called him out for punching him in the face not because of the specific sword he was using lo

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Zoro has battles in every single arc sometimes even multiple. Acting like Sanji had comparable feats is insane when Sanji barely had any feats

Sanji’s first solo win post timeskip was queen. Zoro’s post timeskip wins include hyouzou, Monet, pica, kamazou (killer), and king. You could even argue Hawkins and Apoo despite the fact I don’t.

Sanji got his leg cracked by Vergo and destroyed by Doflamingo
Zoro defeated pica and pushed an admiral back

It’s undeniable or at least should be that Sanji feat wise was severely lacking in comparison to Zoro. The hyper focus on feats and Sanji’s lack of fights is the big reason many believed Zoro to be vastly superior. Even post onigashima Zoro had significantly better feats on the rooftop and against king
At the end of the day all those feats or lack there of never mattered because it was mad clear due to their portrayal that they were still comparable

Again you’re a Sanji fan you should realize feats don’t mean shit


I think sword skill is just a part of his overall fighting style

Idk if Xebec is considered a swordsman or not. He’s definitely skilled with his sword but he doesn’t limit himself to it

As for will Shanks have named attacks that swordsmanship? Yeah probably tho I don’t think them being named is necessarily. At least in regards to punches and kicks

Why you using dr xebec ?

 

[Juanpiz]

Zoro called him out for punching him in the face not because of the specific sword he was using lo

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Zoro has battles in every single arc sometimes even multiple. Acting like Sanji had comparable feats is insane when Sanji barely had any feats

Sanji’s first solo win post timeskip was queen. Zoro’s post timeskip wins include hyouzou, Monet, pica, kamazou (killer), and king. You could even argue Hawkins and Apoo despite the fact I don’t.

Sanji got his leg cracked by Vergo and destroyed by Doflamingo
Zoro defeated pica and pushed an admiral back

It’s undeniable or at least should be that Sanji feat wise was severely lacking in comparison to Zoro. The hyper focus on feats and Sanji’s lack of fights is the big reason many believed Zoro to be vastly superior. Even post onigashima Zoro had significantly better feats on the rooftop and against king
At the end of the day all those feats or lack there of never mattered because it was mad clear due to their portrayal that they were still comparable

Again you’re a Sanji fan you should realize feats don’t mean shit


I think sword skill is just a part of his overall fighting style

Idk if Xebec is considered a swordsman or not. He’s definitely skilled with his sword but he doesn’t limit himself to it

As for will Shanks have named attacks that swordsmanship? Yeah probably tho I don’t think them being named is necessarily. At least in regards to punches and kicks

I dont remember Everything right now but Cook Must have beaten someone during dessarosa

 

[Albino 👑]

Why you using dr xebec ?

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Domi reversi doesn’t change you’re fighting style it just makes you stronger

I dont remember Everything right now but Cook Must have beaten someone during dessarosa

He got beat up by viola and Doflamingo but did beat up random fodder

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

If feats don't matter there's no argument for Shanks > Mihawk. Stop.

 

[Juanpiz]

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Domi reversi doesn’t change you’re fighting style it just makes you stronger

He got beat up by viola and Doflamingo but did beat up random fodder

Well at least he kicked that big dude away from Luffy during fmi

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If feats don't matter there's no argument for Shanks > Mihawk. Stop.

Remember only portrayal matters, but Rayleigh and Gabans portrayal as the two strongest Roger pirates alongside Roger doesn’t. Nor does their portrayal as legends alongside Whitebeard. Nor does their portrayal as being on par with Roger.

But only portrayal matters

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Mihawk has ass portrayal but when it comes to sword skill he’s superior
Overall strength Shanks

Mihawk is just another warlord

In that panel, the marines call in Mihawk to stop Shanks. So, if we only consider the representation as you say, Mihawk can defeat Shanks.

 

[Hiragaro]

Right hand, silver, and vice captain > left hand, copper, and not vice captain
It’s not rocket science

Rayleigh joined first, so he is the vice captain...
Roger wasn't choosing between Rayleigh and Gaban and was like, hmm yeah, Ray you are stronger so you are gonna be Vice Captain....

 

[BillSlipton]

Zoro called him out for punching him in the face not because of the specific sword he was using lo

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Zoro has battles in every single arc sometimes even multiple. Acting like Sanji had comparable feats is insane when Sanji barely had any feats

Sanji’s first solo win post timeskip was queen. Zoro’s post timeskip wins include hyouzou, Monet, pica, kamazou (killer), and king. You could even argue Hawkins and Apoo despite the fact I don’t.

Sanji got his leg cracked by Vergo and destroyed by Doflamingo
Zoro defeated pica and pushed an admiral back

It’s undeniable or at least should be that Sanji feat wise was severely lacking in comparison to Zoro. The hyper focus on feats and Sanji’s lack of fights is the big reason many believed Zoro to be vastly superior. Even post onigashima Zoro had significantly better feats on the rooftop and against king
At the end of the day all those feats or lack there of never mattered because it was mad clear due to their portrayal that they were still comparable

Again you’re a Sanji fan you should realize feats don’t mean shit


I think sword skill is just a part of his overall fighting style

Idk if Xebec is considered a swordsman or not. He’s definitely skilled with his sword but he doesn’t limit himself to it

As for will Shanks have named attacks that swordsmanship? Yeah probably tho I don’t think them being named is necessarily. At least in regards to punches and kicks

This is just flat out lies. Ad populum fallacies dont impress.

Zoro having more fights as thats his specific role in the crew as a pure combatant is kind of expected.

This doesnt get you from point a to point b. Sanji has multiple roles in the crew. Meaning his time is split up between these roles.

Saying leg cracked by vergo when we both know the context of his state of health before the clash makes me question your honesty and integrity in this debate. Sanji outperformed vergo in every single measure. The only thing that failed was his already harmed durability due to laws antics and namis clumsiness.

You point to doflamingo yet ignore context. Tell me what you see here...

Nobody besides law and luffy knew about the strings being used to attack. Law only told luffy. Not the rest of the crew.


Zoro had help with pica who he was struggling to do anything to. Pica is actual fodder that sanji could have used coo to detect and then sky walked to the real pica.

Context matters and youre not using your brain.

 

[HA001]

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Domi reversi doesn’t change you’re fighting style it just makes you stronger

He got beat up by viola and Doflamingo but did beat up random fodder

Hes fucking flying and has fangs and claws

 

[Albino 👑]

In that panel, the marines call in Mihawk to stop Shanks. So, if we only consider the representation as you say, Mihawk can defeat Shanks.

That’s not what’s happening at all lol

Rayleigh joined first, so he is the vice captain...
Roger wasn't choosing between Rayleigh and Gaban and was like, hmm yeah, Ray you are stronger so you are gonna be Vice Captain....

Vice captain is a position
Zoro joined the crew first and is the combatant or master swordsman not vice captain

This is just flat out lies. Ad populum fallacies dont impress.

Zoro having more fights as thats his specific role in the crew as a pure combatant is kind of expected.

This doesnt get you from point a to point b. Sanji has multiple roles in the crew. Meaning his time is split up between these roles.

Saying leg cracked by vergo when we both know the context of his state of health before the clash makes me question your honesty and integrity in this debate. Sanji outperformed vergo in every single measure. The only thing that failed was his already harmed durability due to laws antics and namis clumsiness.

You point to doflamingo yet ignore context. Tell me what you see here...

Nobody besides law and luffy knew about the strings being used to attack. Law only told luffy. Not the rest of the crew.


Zoro had help with pica who he was struggling to do anything to. Pica is actual fodder that sanji could have used coo to detect and then sky walked to the real pica.

Context matters and youre not using your brain.

You can use all the excuses you want but it’s beyond dumb to act like Zoro didn’t have way better feats than Sanji throughout the majority of the post timeskip until they fought king and queen

Hes fucking flying and has fangs and claws

Just like everyone else domi reversi’d

 

[BillSlipton]

That’s not what’s happening at all lol

Vice captain is a position
Zoro joined the crew first and is the combatant or master swordsman not vice captain

You can use all the excuses you want but it’s beyond dumb to act like Zoro didn’t have way better feats than Sanji throughout the majority of the post timeskip until they fought king and queen

Just like everyone else domi reversi’d

Totally. We know sanji had better feats than zoro until little garden. Is that just as valid?

I'm not saying Zoro being thrown by orlumbus wasn't more impressive than kicking wadatsumi. Im pointing out that your portrayal argument works both ways. Feats are a part of portrayal and saying they don't matter is contradictory.

 

[Hiragaro]

Vice captain is a position
Zoro joined the crew first and is the combatant or master swordsman not vice captain

The VC is the closest person to the Captain, because this person spend the most time with the Captain, being there the longest. It’s that simple.

 

[Franosuke]

Portrayal is such a buzzword now lmfao

 

[Albino 👑]

Totally. We know sanji had better feats than zoro until little garden. Is that just as valid?

I'm not saying Zoro being thrown by orlumbus wasn't more impressive than kicking wadatsumi. Im pointing out that your portrayal argument works both ways. Feats are a part of portrayal and saying they don't matter is contradictory.

He didn’t lol
Zoro had multiple fights and wins under his belt at that point

Sanji’s best feat pre queen was him using his strongest attack against wadstsumi. Zoro defeated many characters stronger than wadatsumi

I will say this tho I do think the portrayal of specific attacks does matter because it does give us insight into how much they’re trying

I’ve said it before but for example the attacks the monster trio are they “second” strongest

• Bien Cuit: Grill Shot is Sanji’s overall second strongest attack post timeskip after hell memories
• Santoryu Ogi: Rokudo no Tsuji is Zoro’s second strongest santoryu or no asura attack after Santoryu Ogi: Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai
• Elephant Gun in general is obviously Luffy’s most basic g3 attack but with Luffy making it max size it makes it one of his strongest punches excluding g4. It being second to either max size rifle tho idk if he could do that tbh or second to max size roc gun

http://imgur.com/a/SFlEO7L

While I still think it’s interesting how specific attacks are portrayed when compared to other attacks there’s a difference between scaling how 2 attacks compare to each other and actually using feats to scale 2 characters

The VC is the closest person to the Captain, because this person spend the most time with the Captain, being there the longest. It’s that simple.

Zoro isn’t the vice captain neither is king or killer or bepo so no

 

[Desolate Smaug]

True feats especially environmental feats don't mean squat tbh. Isolated feats are trash.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

That’s not what’s happening at all lol

Vice captain is a position
Zoro joined the crew first and is the combatant or master swordsman not vice captain

You can use all the excuses you want but it’s beyond dumb to act like Zoro didn’t have way better feats than Sanji throughout the majority of the post timeskip until they fought king and queen

Just like everyone else domi reversi’d

Shanks arrives and the marine ask about Mihawk. Portray is clear

 

[BillSlipton]

He didn’t lol
Zoro had multiple fights and wins under his belt at that point

Sanji’s best feat pre queen was him using his strongest attack against wadstsumi. Zoro defeated many characters stronger than wadatsumi

I will say this tho I do think the portrayal of specific attacks does matter because it does give us insight into how much they’re trying

I’ve said it before but for example the attacks the monster trio are they “second” strongest

• Bien Cuit: Grill Shot is Sanji’s overall second strongest attack post timeskip after hell memories
• Santoryu Ogi: Rokudo no Tsuji is Zoro’s second strongest santoryu or no asura attack after Santoryu Ogi: Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai
• Elephant Gun in general is obviously Luffy’s most basic g3 attack but with Luffy making it max size it makes it one of his strongest punches excluding g4. It being second to either max size rifle tho idk if he could do that tbh or second to max size roc gun

http://imgur.com/a/SFlEO7L

While I still think it’s interesting how specific attacks are portrayed when compared to other attacks there’s a difference between scaling how 2 attacks compare to each other and actually using feats to scale 2 characters

Zoro isn’t the vice captain neither is king or killer or bepo so no

Nonsense. Literal nonsense. Assertion, assertion, assertion.

You dont know thats sanjis second strongest attack after the time skip

That attack has a pre time skip equivalent and buddy... its not his second strongest.

I like that you picked this scene. Zoro and luffy both struggle to attack under water due to a lack of mobility and speed under thousands of pounds of pressure.

Sanji even gets a warning from nami not to leave the bubble due to the danger and pressure.

Sanji still moves fluidly through the water with ease.

Despite being under tens of thousands of pounds of pressure... sanji still casually with his hands in his pockets, lights the kraken on fire.

Casually burning something underwater with that much pressure whilst being casual is a better feat than whatever luffy and zoro did while struggling.

More context that retards are allergic too. Apparently you fit the shoe. Engage the context instead of making up your own headcanon.

We know what Sanji's attacks look like. We know what the majority of their post time skip equivalents are.

You are just making up nonsense.

 

[Albino 👑]

Shanks arrives and the marine ask about Mihawk. Portray is clear

Because he tries to automatically leave unlike anyone else lol

Nonsense. Literal nonsense. Assertion, assertion, assertion.

You dont know thats sanjis second strongest attack after the time skip

That attack has a pre time skip equivalent and buddy... its not his second strongest.

I like that you picked this scene. Zoro and luffy both struggle to attack under water due to a lack of mobility and speed under thousands of pounds of pressure.

Sanji even gets a warning from nami not to leave the bubble due to the danger and pressure.

Sanji still moves fluidly through the water with ease.

Despite being under tens of thousands of pounds of pressure... sanji still casually with his hands in his pockets, lights the kraken on fire.

Casually burning something underwater with that much pressure whilst being casual is a better feat than whatever luffy and zoro did while struggling.

More context that retards are allergic too. Apparently you fit the shoe. Engage the context instead of making up your own headcanon.

We know what Sanji's attacks look like. We know what the majority of their post time skip equivalents are.

You are just making up nonsense.

What the fuck are you talking about. I don’t care how well they can swim or fight in the water. That has nothing to do with anything

Hell memories and grill shot are Sanji’s top 2 attacks it doesn’t matter if it’s below or above water. They were even the 2 strongest attacks used against queen

Denying grill shot is Sanji’s second strongest attack after hell memories is even stupider than denying Santoryu Ogi: Rokudo no Tsuji is Zoro’s second strongest santoryu or no asura attack after Santoryu Ogi: Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai

 

[Rumble]

Gaban’s feats are already significantly more impressive than Rayleigh’s but don’t change the fact he’s weaker

C O P E

Zoro’s feats were significantly better than Sanji’s pre queen but again doesn’t change the fact they’re extremely close in strength the whole time

Zoro has literally never had better feats.

Y'all are just selective what counts and when.