Future Events Final Prediction for Mihawk and Rayleigh

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

The bounties will surely be released soon, will they have higher bounty than Law and Kid's 3 Billion or not ?

Honestly if they get anything below Law and Kid it will be super disappointing now.

Mihawk is a legend with a title of Strongest with him
Rayleigh is a legend who was pirate king's strongest man

 

[Master OF Haki]

Rayleigh will for sure get an unusual high bounty because the dude knows THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, all the secrets that the WG is trying to hide, Rayleigh knows it all. So I assume that his bounty is gonna be at least above 2bill. He can even have 4bill to be honest, because the secrets that Rayleigh knows are so fucking dangerous and a direct threat to WG.
:zorothink:
He knows what and where the one piece is, like seriously, he's currently the most dangerous guy around. Rayleigh even knows all the ancient weapons and their location, if I was the WG I'd give him 5+bill just for that thing alone.


Mihawk is a tricky one, I think Mihawk will get around a 1bill, but considering that Mihawk is used as a cheap hype tool for Zoro he might get maybe 1.5/2bill. I don't see it being higher than 2bill max. But the safe bet right now is 1bill.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Rayleigh will for sure get an unusual high bounty because the dude knows THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, all the secrets that the WG is trying to hide, Rayleigh knows it all. So I assume that his bounty is gonna be at least above 2bill. He can even have 4bill to be honest, because the secrets that Rayleigh knows are so fucking dangerous and a direct threat to WG.
:zorothink:
He knows what and where the one piece is, like seriously, he's currently the most dangerous guy around.


Mihawk is a tricky one, I think Mihawk will get around a 1bill, but considering that Mihawk is used as a cheap hype tool for Zoro he might get maybe 1.5/2bill. I don't see it being higher than 2bill max. But the safe bet right now is 1bill.

added a new voting option for Rayleigh and Mihawk separate

Post automatically merged: Jul 17, 2022

Rayleigh will for sure get an unusual high bounty because the dude knows THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, all the secrets that the WG is trying to hide, Rayleigh knows it all. So I assume that his bounty is gonna be at least above 2bill. He can even have 4bill to be honest, because the secrets that Rayleigh knows are so fucking dangerous and a direct threat to WG.
:zorothink:
He knows what and where the one piece is, like seriously, he's currently the most dangerous guy around.


Mihawk is a tricky one, I think Mihawk will get around a 1bill, but considering that Mihawk is used as a cheap hype tool for Zoro he might get maybe 1.5/2bill. I don't see it being higher than 2bill max. But the safe bet right now is 1bill.

and if there were no Zoro, Mihawk title still would look very impressive and him fighting Shanks

 

[Master OF Haki]

and if there were no Zoro, Mihawk title still would look very impressive and him fighting Shanks

Not really! As long as Mihawk stays irrelevant and has no ambitions outside of the WSS title which he somehow got without defeating anybody, he will be undervalued. The dude has no crew, no wife, children, ambitions, home, country I mean nothing... only his blade, the WSS title which he doesn't deserve. The guy's like a homeless pigeon.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Not really! As long as Mihawk stays irrelevant and has no ambitions outside of the WSS title which he somehow got without defeating nobody, he will be undervalued. The dude has no crew, no wife, children, crew, ambitions, home, country I mean nothing... only his blade, the WSS title which he doesn't deserve. The guy's like a homeless pigeon.

everything you said I could say about Kong, about Sengoku...but that doesn't mean they don't deserve praise for their strength
he has fought and defeated characters, he wouldn't get the title otherwise, we all know that
if you are judging him by why/how he was blocked, during marineford the power levels were all over the place,
people thought Marco was stronger than Kizaru, when now YC1 is fodder and Kizaru wanted to fight 2 Yonko,
people thought no one will reach 1 Billion bounty judging by how close in strength the characters were shown
even then, Mihawk didn't get a single hit on his body after fighting strongests of WBPs (Vista, Crocodile), if postponing against Vista looked bad, all the admirals were shown to get hits from Commanders

 

[Seatonnes]

Rayleigh is max 2b
Mihawk is max 1b

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

Rayleigh is :-
- part of Rogers Crew
- knows too much
- was so strong too that people feared him as a legend of his own alongside his captain.

Mihawk is just a legendary strongest swordman.

Rayleigh most likely has a higher bounty. I will not be surprised if Mihawk's bounty is 1 bill.

 

[Master OF Haki]

everything you said I could say about Kong, about Sengoku...

No you can't!!! Both Sengoku and Kong are part of something bigger than themselves–the Marines. These guys fought many (not one like Mihawk when Shanks wasn't even an Emperor) top tiers, they obtained the highest position in the strongest military force in the world. Both of them are/were part of the big game, Roger himself praised Sengoku alnogside Garp, Sengoku and Kong know something about the history of the world.
Mihawk is not like them, he's an outsider, he's not part of the big game, he has nothing going for him.

but that doesn't mean they don't deserve praise for their strength

I didn't say that Mihawk shouldn't be respected for his strength, but strength alone is nothing. Fujitora and Ryokugyu existed in one piece world and we never knew they were there, Oda just pulled them out of his ass, they were irrelevant to the story until they became part of the Marines (something bigger than themselves), before that they weren't part of the big game. But now they are, and we know these guys and their names. How many strong guys are out there about whom we don't even know and have no idea? Who fucking knows. Mihawk is outside of the game, he has only the WSS title which he got without defeating anybody, unless Oda wants to hype the shit out of Zoro I don't see Mihawk getting very high bounty, he's simply too irrelevant to get one.

if you are judging him by why/how he was blocked, during marineford the power levels were all across the board,
people thought Marco was stronger than Kizaru, when now YC1 is fodder and Kizaru wanted to fight 2 Yonko,
people thought no one will reach 1 Billion bounty judging by how close in strength the characters were shown
even then, Mihawk didn't get a single hit on his body after fighting strongests of WBPs (Vista, Crocodile), if postponing against Vista looked bad, all the admirals were shown to get hits from Commanders

As I've said it in other threads, power levels don't exist in one piece for me, I don't judge Mihawk or any character per say by what they showed in Marinford, just by their relevancy to the story.

 

[VultureKing]

It's also important to consider that Mihawk doesn't seem like much of a threat to the WG, he chills on his island with his monkeys most of the time, he doesn't have a crew, and doesn't seem to have any ambitions other than being WSS. It'd make sense if he has a relatively low bounty because of that, regardless of how strong he is.

 

[Chiji_]

It’s hard for me to see an individual that isn’t leading an organization with like a super bloated bounty. Like BB w all that he’s done is only 2’s but sure that’s like his first bounty fair enough. Like some have said Rayleigh’s knowledge and him being right hand to the pk alone should warrant something abnormally high let alone his own personal accomplishments so I’m hopefull for 3 bill at least maybe close to 4?. For Mihawk maybe around the same likes omewhere in the 3s but not as close to 4 if I’m being hopeful (I can honestly see it being a high 2 at worst, but def not 4 and def out the 1s), strongest swordsman that forged the strongest blade and is at least stronger than like 2 of the yonko(shanks/bm). We don’t really have much info on his past tbf but idk if they’d give more than Ray (Raftel info/Roger’s best man).

 

[JoNdule]

Ray has between 2B -3.2 B especially for knowing the secrets of the world and being Roger's RH

Posthawk will get 1B-2.2B

 

[zenox]

- rayleigh has more fame than the yonkos thus i wont be surprised if he has a higher bounty , he is yonko level too in strength .

- the world's strongest swordsman is def above 3 billion , mihawk's bounty is still kept a secret it will just keep increasing , my prediction is it will be 3.7 billion

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

No you can't!!! Both Sengoku and Kong are part of something bigger than themselves–the Marines. These guys fought many (not one like Mihawk when Shanks wasn't even an Emperor) top tiers, they obtained the highest position in the strongest military force in the world. Both of them are/were part of the big game, Roger himself praised Sengoku alnogside Garp, Sengoku and Kong know something about the history of the world.
Mihawk is not like them, he's an outsider, he's not part of the big game, he has nothing going for him.

I didn't say that Mihawk shouldn't be respected for his strength, but strength alone is nothing. Fujitora and Ryokugyu existed in one piece world and we never knew they were there, Oda just pulled them out of his ass, they were irrelevant to the story until they became part of the Marines (something bigger than themselves), before that they weren't part of the big game. But now they are, and we know these guys and their names. How many strong guys are out there about whom we don't even know and have no idea? Who fucking knows. Mihawk is outside of the game, he has only the WSS title which he got without defeating anybody, unless Oda wants to hype the shit out of Zoro I don't see Mihawk getting very high bounty, he's simply too irrelevant to get one.

As I've said it in other threads, power levels don't exist in one piece for me, I don't judge Mihawk or any character per say by what they showed in Marinford, just by their relevancy to the story.

if that's the case then the real motive of Luffy is also freedom, freedom that there would exist no one who could stop him, once he reached that he would become irrelevant.... Mihawk has reached that he has reached the freedom and no one exists that's higher than him, that's why he is called irrelevant..
but after reaching that position it will be other Pirates and Marines who won't let them stay there
Pirates/Marines won't let Luffy stay there and Swordsmen won't let Mihawk stay there
Luffy might not have declared him as his direct enemy but if they were to face each other, I think Luffy would engage in a fight to make sure Luffy or his crew is not hindered by Mihawk, as seen Mihawk also picks fights with non swordsmen as well
anyways whether relevant or not in the main story, why would you judge his bounty by that ? relevant to our understanding of story is not important, we are talking about bounties, and I am talking about how much bounty he deserves based on his strength and Marine's idea of his character, Marines are actively hunting him as seen and he has started to hunt the Marines as well

 

[Master OF Haki]

if that's the case then the real motive of Luffy is also freedom, freedom that there would exist no one who could stop him, once he reached that he would become irrelevant....

Yeah sure, after Luffy takes down Blackbeard and the world government he will become irrelevant. I mean he will be a legend in one piece world but he will be irrelevant to the plot, the story would simply end lol.

Mihawk has reached that he has reached the freedom and no one exists that's higher than him, that's why he is called irrelevant..
but after reaching that position it will be other Pirates and Marines who won't let them stay there
Pirates/Marines won't let Luffy stay there and Swordsmen won't let Mihawk stay there
Luffy might not have declared him as his direct enemy but if they were to face each other, I think Luffy would engage in a fight to make sure Luffy or his crew is not hindered by Mihawk, as seen Mihawk also picks fights with non swordsmen as well
anyways whether relevant or not in the main story, why would you judge his bounty by that ? relevant to our understanding of story is not important, we are talking about bounties, and I am talking about how much bounty he deserves based on his strength and Marine's idea of his character, Marines are actively hunting him as seen and he has started to hunt the Marines as well

Mihawk hasn't achieved freedom, the Marines are actively pursuing him. Hell, didn't he become one of the warlords because it gave him freedom? Now he might join Shanks since he lost Marines' protection. But I digress!.. Mihawk is not part of the power struggle, do you understand what I mean? Nobody cares about WSS title, the Admirals and Yonko don't give a shit. Mihawk is irrelevant because he never fights against top tiers and top tiers don't give a shit about him, it's like he's invisible, the only time top tiers noticed him was when he attacked Whitbeard, guss what, a top tier.

Again, I'm not bashing on Mihawk's strength, he might be as strong as you want him to be or even stronger, but as long as he stays out of the big game where the big guys are fighting to death for supremacy, he's irrelevant to the plot. Even the WSS title is irrelevant, the only guy who wants it is Zoro. Like Oda doesn't even try to make Mihawk interesting, he just leaves him to be irrelevant.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Yeah sure, after Luffy takes down Blackbeard and the world government he will become irrelevant. I mean he will be a legend in one piece world but he will be irrelevant to the plot, the story would simply end lol.

Mihawk hasn't achieved freedom, the Marines are actively pursuing him. Hell, didn't he become one of the warlords because it gave him freedom? Now he might join Shanks since he lost Marines' protection. But I digress!.. Mihawk is not part of the power struggle, do you understand what I mean? Nobody cares about WSS title, the Admirals and Yonko don't give a shit. Mihawk is irrelevant because he never fights against top tiers and top tiers don't give a shit about him, it's like he's invisible, the only time top tiers noticed him was when he attacked Whitbeard, guss what, a top tier.

Again, I'm not bashing on Mihawk's strength, he might be as strong as you want him to be or even stronger, but as long as he stays out of the big game where the big guys are fighting to death for supremacy, he's irrelevant to the plot. Even the WSS title is irrelevant, the only guy who wants it is Zoro. Like Oda doesn't even try to make Mihawk interesting, he just leaves him be to irrelevant.

okay he is irrelevant to the plot but why are you/or why should we turn him as someone non-existent in One Piece verse, if he is there if he is strong, if he is threat, if he is against WG, he should have bounty, and based on his strength and title he should have a high one.....his relevancy to story doesn't matter at all with Marines giving him bounty

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Robin is most relevant in the story, but doesn't mean she will get 5 Billion bounty

 

[Master OF Haki]

okay he is irrelevant to the plot but why are you/or why should we turn him as someone non-existent in One Piece verse, if he is there if he is strong, if he is threat, if he is against WG, he should have bounty, and based on his strength and title he should have a high one.....his relevancy to story doesn't matter at all with Marines giving him bounty

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Robin is most relevant in the story, but doesn't mean she will get 5 Billion bounty

Strength obviously plays a role for sure, just like the threat level. But nobody gets a high bounty just because of strength or threat Level alone, it's usually the combination of both that makes a high bounty. As you've correctly pointed it out, Robin is a big threat to the WG but she doesn't have 5bill because she's not strong, Mihawk is strong but he's not a threat to WG so he's not gonna get 5bill ether. Rayleigh on the other hand, is both strong and is an enormous threat to the WG so he might even get 4/5bill. That makes sense! And make no mistake, Oda has managed to surprise us with the bounties lately, so Mihawk might get high bounty for no reason, but I have just pointed out why most likely he won't.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Strength obviously plays a role for sure, just like the threat level. But nobody gets a high bounty just because of strength or threat Level alone, it's usually the combination of both that makes a high bounty. As you've correctly pointed it out, Robin is a big threat to the WG but she doesn't have 5bill because she's not strong, Mihawk is strong but he's not a threat to WG so he's not gonna get 5bill ether. Rayleigh on the other hand, is both strong and is an enormous threat to the WG so he might even get 4/5bill. That makes sense! And make no mistake, Oda has managed to surprise us with the bounties lately, so Mihawk might get high bounty for no reason, but I have just pointed out why most likely he won't.

more than 10 Warships were sent to capture Mihawk, suggests that he is considered a threat... he destroyed whole fleet of DonKrieg just for fun, he is pirate and very strong and needs to be stopped based on Marine Law.... yes knowing other stuff increases the threat level but we all know the most important reason for increments on bounties are strength, the most world's most dangerous person and ancient enemy of WG "Nika" got bounty of 3Billion, why ? because the most important is strength... lots of other examples
other threats of knowledge and other things increases bounties only around 50-200 million,
let's say Marines have to capture Mihawk, how much effort they need to capture him ? that's what decides his bounty, even if they send 3 buster calls, they would still not be able to capture him, that's how big of threat he is based on strength .... just like Weevil, the stupid guy is nothing but strength but he will get high bounty

 

[Blazing Lion]

It is just hard for me to accept that Mihawk and Ray will have a higher bounty or equal to Shanks. One is a present Yonko the other is a retired guy who knows a lot but has been quite and minding his own for the last 20 years or so. Even with how much Ray knows he is not the only one who is alive from the voyage to Laugh Tale, even Crocus went there and we have no idea about his bounty. I think all members of Roger pirates will have a higher bounty compared to guys with similar strength because they are assumed to have gone to Laugh Tale, Shanks included, unless the WG had some way of knowing which pirates went to Laugh Tale and which did not from the crew. Ray might have a chance of having a bigger bounty because of his strength and portrayal so far. If guys like Law and Kid can get a bounty similar to a Yonko like Luffy then Ray probably can get above 4 bil just because of being the RHM of the PK. To me Ray is at least a Yonko level guy in his prime and bounties do suggest the strength of an individual.

For Mihawk who is equal to or stronger than Shanks (as far as we know canonically) because he is not a Yonko, does not have territories (an abandoned kingdom where only monkeys live does not count), does not have any crew at all and is not as brutal as the likes of Kid etc. are shown then I cannot place his bounty above Shanks. I think when we get more clarity about his origins and backstory etc. we can understand more about his bounty level, I mean why did he become a pirate in the first place, why would the marines chase a guy like him. I think we have only seem a glimpse of his real personality when he was shown to destroy Kreig's fleet because he was bored or the recent panel of his excitement for being the guy getting chased.

 

[Ar1sE1998]

Mihawk 2x or 3x higher than this weakling > Katakuri

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Rayleigh probably around 2.9 Billion
Mihawk probably around 1.4 Billion