Chapter Discussion FINAL VEREDICT on God Valley Incident
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Oda for some reason prefers a panel showing us Marco's dad(lmao) kicking Silver Axe instead showing us what happened to Imu and Saturn 
Another thing about Saturn is he seems to have let Kuma go, or Kuma deflected every single attack, or Saturn spare him because he is one of the prized rabbit. No confirmation, we have to keep guessing.
Polo way less injuries than most old legends @MonsterKaido
Stop the silver axe disrespect he’s way above Kaido
Stop the silver axe disrespect he’s way above Kaido
God Valley was a mix of events, but some points I wanted to understand more weren't fully addressed. However, it's still an INSANEly good "small arc."
What I liked: the development of the "D" family's story, Davy's inherited willpower; Dragon and his development; the older Devil Fruit users (John, Ganzui).
What I didn't like: very little explanation about Xebec's family; Roger and Garp didn't have a direct interaction with Xebec, just meaningless fighting; little involvement of more Devil Fruits, which at this point in the manga seems more of a drawback than a benefit, due to Haki being introduced in various absurd ways.
Final: 8/10
I confess to you that Whitebeard ages like a fine wine in this manga... man, I've always been very naive about Yonkou vs. Admiral discussions, I always turned a blind eye to Whitebeard's power, I fell for those fallacies that he wasn't anything special, but after seeing GD past, I see that Whitebeard was much more than we imagined... he wasn't just a simple brute who wanted to fight, he had a purpose, he was with Xebec out of "loyalty," even though he must have been recruited in a davy back fight, he still cultivated the principles of pirate camaraderie.
So yes, I agree with everything you say, he's fantastic.
What I liked: the development of the "D" family's story, Davy's inherited willpower; Dragon and his development; the older Devil Fruit users (John, Ganzui).
What I didn't like: very little explanation about Xebec's family; Roger and Garp didn't have a direct interaction with Xebec, just meaningless fighting; little involvement of more Devil Fruits, which at this point in the manga seems more of a drawback than a benefit, due to Haki being introduced in various absurd ways.
Final: 8/10
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I confess to you that Whitebeard ages like a fine wine in this manga... man, I've always been very naive about Yonkou vs. Admiral discussions, I always turned a blind eye to Whitebeard's power, I fell for those fallacies that he wasn't anything special, but after seeing GD past, I see that Whitebeard was much more than we imagined... he wasn't just a simple brute who wanted to fight, he had a purpose, he was with Xebec out of "loyalty," even though he must have been recruited in a davy back fight, he still cultivated the principles of pirate camaraderie.
So yes, I agree with everything you say, he's fantastic.
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Oda 100% did originally plan for Smoothie and co to be involved in the raid, but he decided to scrap them for some reason. I guess he just didn’t feel like drawing a few extra fights?
Jinbe should have fought Smoothie. Both of them get boosted by fighting near water, and Jinbe beating a YC2 who should be of a similar caliber to Queen would make Jinbe’s post-Wano bounty make a lot more sense (him getting his bounty more than doubled just for beating WsW, a 500 mil bounty pirate, makes no sense)
The Kid and Heart Pirates should have fought the rest of the BMPs on board the Chanter. Obviously they would only get a few panels of action, but it would at least show that Kid and Law’s crews aren’t literal fodder.
With Jinbe being occupied by Smoothie, that would free up Brook to get an actual fight, with his opponent being WsW. Obviously Oda can rewrite WsW to not be the strongest of the F6 (excluding Drake) if Brook isn’t supposed to be stronger than Franky and Robin.
Also, Carrot really should’ve been the one to finish off Pero since she’s the one who was the most affected by Pedro’s death (Neko stealing the kill from her is one of Oda’s dumbest decisions in Wano). But if Oda really didn’t want Carrot and Wanda to beat him, he could’ve at least had Chopper be the one to finish off a weakened Pero as payback for the beating he got in WCI
Jinbe should have fought Smoothie. Both of them get boosted by fighting near water, and Jinbe beating a YC2 who should be of a similar caliber to Queen would make Jinbe’s post-Wano bounty make a lot more sense (him getting his bounty more than doubled just for beating WsW, a 500 mil bounty pirate, makes no sense)
The Kid and Heart Pirates should have fought the rest of the BMPs on board the Chanter. Obviously they would only get a few panels of action, but it would at least show that Kid and Law’s crews aren’t literal fodder.
With Jinbe being occupied by Smoothie, that would free up Brook to get an actual fight, with his opponent being WsW. Obviously Oda can rewrite WsW to not be the strongest of the F6 (excluding Drake) if Brook isn’t supposed to be stronger than Franky and Robin.
Also, Carrot really should’ve been the one to finish off Pero since she’s the one who was the most affected by Pedro’s death (Neko stealing the kill from her is one of Oda’s dumbest decisions in Wano). But if Oda really didn’t want Carrot and Wanda to beat him, he could’ve at least had Chopper be the one to finish off a weakened Pero as payback for the beating he got in WCI
Somewhere between 7 and 8 out of 10 for me. Half of the mark is thanks to Rocks the GOAT. Yeah, I wish some fights were more fleshed out, I agree Shakky as a "gotta catch them all" plot device is stupid, but I enjoyed this flashback a lot more than entire Wano and second half of Egghead. Hope we'll get some cool moments on Elbaph, and I also am looking forward to Luffy & BB seeing each other again!
Honestly if Yamato actually joined Smoothie would have been the logical fight for her here in a way that doesnt feel contrived. They are both children of Yonko and that could have been a neat dynamic to see.
And yeah I always had things like Chopper fighting an Oni-Drake to cure him and Brook potentially facing another BMP of note.
Idk, no ise in dwelling on it anymore. Eggheads just the next layer of disappointment there since he hyped up those VAs and had them immediately trashed lol
And yeah I always had things like Chopper fighting an Oni-Drake to cure him and Brook potentially facing another BMP of note.
Idk, no ise in dwelling on it anymore. Eggheads just the next layer of disappointment there since he hyped up those VAs and had them immediately trashed lol
