People live under this nostalgic delusion that the OG Admiral trio is much stronger than the new Admirals.
That happens mostly because the OG admirals were bullying a bunch of non-haki users left and right, while the power creep prevented both Fuji and Ryo-chin to do the same in the post-TS.
Let's not forget, that while Ryo managed to subdue both King and Queen in an instant, Kizaru needed a Kairouseki handcuff to deal with Marco, while Aokiji only managed to take down Jozu when the latter was distracted by Marco getting finger lasered.
If anything, both Fuji and Ryo managed to showcase much better feats against much harder opponents, despite the power creep.
The disrespect for the new admiral duo based purely on nostalgic feelings for the OG Trio, no matter how great they were, is nothing but major coping.
By that logic Monster Trio is also a byproduct of Nostalgia and Jinbei is being disrespected for this nostalgia.
I am not disrespecting Fujitora and Ryokugyu (although Ryokugyu really got the short stick with FILM:RED). But Sakazuki is bona fide above Fujitora, consequently Kuzan should also be above.
Basically, Kizaru was the weakest among the OG Admiral Trio. So Sakazuki > Kuzan > Kizaru ~ Fujitora >~ Ryokugyu.
People live under this nostalgic delusion that the OG Admiral trio is much stronger than the new Admirals.
That happens mostly because the OG admirals were bullying a bunch of non-haki users left and right, while the power creep prevented both Fuji and Ryo-chin to do the same in the post-TS.
Let's not forget, that while Ryo managed to subdue both King and Queen in an instant, Kizaru needed a Kairouseki handcuff to deal with Marco, while Aokiji only managed to take down Jozu when the latter was distracted by Marco getting finger lasered.
If anything, both Fuji and Ryo managed to showcase much better feats against much harder opponents, despite the power creep.
The disrespect for the new admiral duo based purely on nostalgic feelings for the OG Trio, no matter how great they were, is nothing but major coping.
Fujitora has to be the most downplayed character in the community especially by admiral stans. In this thread I'd like to tackle some of the misconceptions concerning his portrayal and point out some new observations I found while going through his scenes.
People like to downplay Fuji mainly for 3 reasons: 1. The birdcage:
Birdcage looks like a gimmick ability that managed to fold even Barto's barrier. There are 2 things to point out here, the first being Fujitora not using his devil fruit against the birdcage as his horizontal gravity will involve everyone near him. The second is that the cage only stopped once, and that was when Fujitora joined the fray
2. Bruised against G3 Luffy:
It is safe to assume Fujitrora lowered down his defense here as he easily overpowered him after that.
Fujitora, while fighting casually, overwhelmed a full power Sabo who should be leagues above DR Luffy, let alone G3 Luffy. Huff n puff Sabo knew what was going on, and was pissed off enough to address Fuji about this. "This is more like it" when Fuji starts using a fraction of his power.
Fujitora then blatantly claims he could've pushed through him, but he can use that as an excuse as part of his gamble on SHs. Sabo was naturally pissed off by that
3. Bandaged during reverie:
I mean when you consider the 2nd point things get more clear. Tensei said the admirals were restricted and was going to add on that, but Akainu wanted no excuses, naturally Akainu would say that seeing how efficient he is, but this doesn't discredit Fujitora. He's the kind of man who will risk his wellbeing to protect others even if they were his sworn enemies, it is still his duty to protect CDs and that's probably what happened. And again we haven't see Fujitora use horiznotal gravity besides with raging tiger and he can't risk using that with CDs around, so matching up against these quirky powers was not an easy task.
Will be cleared up later on, if I'm wrong I'll proudly hold my L for Fuji.
Now to move on to actual feats: CoO span and accuracy: inarguably the single greatest CoO feat where Fujitora lifts the rubble off a country as big as Dressrosa without harming any living being or damaging any other inanimate objects. This also shows the level of DF mastery he has.
He could also pinpoint the location of every single SH fleet ship and avoid hitting them
This one isn't as impressive, but he could sense Nami's small thunder cloud from far away
Future sight or something else:
Is it merely a coincidence that Fujitora won all these bets? But then again he seemed unaware that he was getting scammed considering how ruthless his response was when Luffy told him the truth
But maybe he chooses not to while gambling? He's a virtuous dude and wouldn't use FS here, but how does he keep winning
His dice game was even lucky enough for him to spare the SHs for two days, and it hit "1" only when Tsuru threw it
Here we have him correctly predicting where the Law Vs Doffy battle will take place while they were still mid sea
An ambiguous ability to predict future events
Here he sheathed his sword and backed away in anticipation for the bird cage vanishing, whereas the others fell on their heads
Future fleet admiral:
I think this one should be kinda obvious now, EoS Akainu will be defeated and there's no logical candidate other than Fujitora. His sense of justice far outclasses that of Aokiji who should've grown accustomed to his new lifestyle.
He's an enhanced version of Sengoku basically.
Potential CoC:
Besides Akainu and Aokiji, he's the only admiral who's invloved in the story and making active decisions to change the world.
1. He holds himself in high esteem, only a solid man can do something like this
2. Holds very heavy views against the WG and is actively seeking to destroy the system.
3. Proud individual, even called stubborn by someone like Sengoku
4. Talked back to Akainu
5. Didn't hesistate to fight Greenbull in Marejois
It is not far fetched to say Fuji is potentially prime Sengoku level just like Akainu is the Garp of this generation
Invest in Fuji stocks before it's too late
Anybody still underestimating Fuji will be cucked again like when they underestimated Mihawk. Now they have to live as Skillstards. Who knows what will be added to their status once Fuji is unleashed for real.
People live under this nostalgic delusion that the OG Admiral trio is much stronger than the new Admirals.
That happens mostly because the OG admirals were bullying a bunch of non-haki users left and right, while the power creep prevented both Fuji and Ryo-chin to do the same in the post-TS.
Let's not forget, that while Ryo managed to subdue both King and Queen in an instant, Kizaru needed a Kairouseki handcuff to deal with Marco, while Aokiji only managed to take down Jozu when the latter was distracted by Marco getting finger lasered.
If anything, both Fuji and Ryo managed to showcase much better feats against much harder opponents, despite the power creep.
The disrespect for the new admiral duo based purely on nostalgic feelings for the OG Trio, no matter how great they were, is nothing but major coping.
Since Zoro always fights the strongest subordinate i thought that his matchup might answer that but now i think thag Zoro will fight Mihawk while Kid, Law and maybe Sanji or someone else fights the Admirals.
Since Zoro always fights the strongest subordinate i thought that his matchup might answer that but now i think thag Zoro will fight Mihawk while Kid, Law and maybe Sanji or someone else fights the Admirals.
Thats pretty dumb of him to do. Id understand if Mihawk was still a Warlord at the time of the Final War. But not only is he not a Warlord but hes actively fighting against the WG in the Final War. Why weaken his own side and also waste time. Its a forced idea to make Zoro not fight an Admiral.
Because theyre not even gonna be in the arc. And if they are, then they will do something else. Either a Third Party antagonist or something else. Again Luffy's men will fight Akainu's men. Thats how its always been. Luffy vs the Antagonist....whilst their surbordinates battle it out.
Honestly wouldn't mind Fujitora vs Law but Fujitora vs Zoro is equally as good.
That just speaks volume on how great Fujiotora's fruit is in term of power and aesthetic
It would be more accurate to say Fuji is the Garp of this generation, while Akainu is the Sengoku of this generation. The Garp-Akainu comparisons have never made much sense. Other than Akainu fans wanting Akainu to be the strongest marine of the era I suppose.
Akainu is cunning and strategic just like Sengoku. Hence Sengoku used Akainu as the one to carry out the Squardo plan.
Even now post-TS, we have Sengoku teasing Akainu about being the fleet admiral, and their interactions as the former and present fleet admiral when it came to discussing matters related to Wano:
Both follow their duties even if they have some disagreements with the World Government. And both believe in needing the Warlords even though they hate pirates.
You can also look at the Garp-Sengoku dynamic, who's the primary one that's always yelling at the other? Sengoku. Who's the guy that never listened? Garp.
Who's noted as doing whatever the fuck he wanted in his prime? Garp. Who's doing whatever the fuck he wants right now? Fujitora. Garp disobeyed Sengoku & Kong's authority whenever he felt like it. Fujitora is doing the same. Akainu tells him to go hunt down the boys, instead he decides to come to Reverie. Akainu tells him to get out, and tells another Admiral to kick him out, instead he starts having lunch at the reverie.
And of course neither fucks with the CD.
Akainu is essentially more ambitious version of Sengoku. While Fujitora is a more ambitious version of Garp.
You have the Ambitious Fleet Admiral, and the Wild Dog under him that doesn't obey, which is what defined Sengoku-Garp's relationship, which is also what defines Akainu-Fujitora's. And despite that dynamic the fleet admiral & the wild dog in both of the duos are close friends.
Though you could also say they're more like Kong-Garp, but the issue with this would only be Garp-Kong weren't really ever implied to be "close friends" like Fujitora-Akainu are. Both in both of the parallels of Kong-Garp, Sengoku-Garp.. the wild dog would still be Fujitora:
By that logic Monster Trio is also a byproduct of Nostalgia and Jinbei is being disrespected for this nostalgia.
I am not disrespecting Fujitora and Ryokugyu (although Ryokugyu really got the short stick with FILM:RED). But Sakazuki is bona fide above Fujitora, consequently Kuzan should also be above.
Basically, Kizaru was the weakest among the OG Admiral Trio. So Sakazuki > Kuzan > Kizaru ~ Fujitora >~ Ryokugyu.
3 Admirals which post-TS & pre-TS are stated to be the highest military power of the World Government & Marines, were downgraded, rather than upgraded. While on the other hand, every other "growing" organization upgraded.
If you find that to be logical with the theme of the timeskip, and the reason behind the World Government doing the WMD in the first place, then I reckon what you're saying is logical.
That Akainu & the World Government failed to upgrade its highest position of military power.
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