Speculations Future strawhat opponents

Garp the Fist

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Well, maybe not everyone but I think Luffy and his top 3 probably have like 4-5 main battles left in the series, minimum. I think the EoS battles will happen pretty close to each other, if they do.
How do you define a main battle? If we take Zoro for example, do you give the same weight to his fights against Hyozou, Monet, Pica and Kamazou?

For me, there's a clear difference between how Oda wrote Zoro vs Pica as compared to the others, and that's the only one I'd really consider a main fight.

In a similar fashion, for Franky, who's not one of the main fighters, I'd say Senor Pink has been his only main fight since Fukuro.
 
How do you define a main battle? If we take Zoro for example, do you give the same weight to his fights against Hyozou, Monet, Pica and Kamazou?

For me, there's a clear difference between how Oda wrote Zoro vs Pica as compared to the others, and that's the only one I'd really consider a main fight.

In a similar fashion, for Franky, who's not one of the main fighters, I'd say Senor Pink has been his only main fight since Fukuro.
I mean, I mentioned 5 potential fights for Zoro that literally cannot be like those 4 fights you mentioned. They are likely top teir characters.

Remember, I already mentioned I dont expect all 10 strawhats to get 5 more "major" battles before the EoS. Someone like Robin hasnt gotten a full, major fight since Yama/Oars.

But I do expect Luffy and his top 3 to have another 4-5 major battles before the EoS.

There are:

- Kaido/Big Mom
- Marine Admirals/Vice Admirals
- CP-0
- SSG, whatever they are
- World Government top brass
- Blackbeard
- Shanks

That could still be antagonistic factions. I dont think we can compare them to any previous "small scale" fights.


Zoro himself is set up to fight, in the least, King, Shiryu, and Mihawk, with the the setup for Fujitora there. The Monk Gorosei is a guess right now due to the Shodai Kitetsu and his possible ties to Wano in that regard. This doesnt include possible CP-0 Members, SSG members (if they are human weapon characters like Pacifista) or Elbaf centric characters that could be setup for potential Zoro fights.
 
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Garp the Fist

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I mean, I mentioned 5 potential fights for Zoro that literally cannot be like those 4 fights you mentioned. They are likely top teir characters.

Remember, I already mentioned I dont expect all 10 strawhats to get 5 more "major" battles before the EoS. Someone like Robin hasnt gotten a full, major fight since Yama/Oars.

But I do expect Luffy and his top 3 to have another 4-5 major battles before the EoS.

There are:

- Kaido/Big Mom
- Marine Admirals/Vice Admirals
- CP-0
- SSG, whatever they are
- World Government top brass
- Blackbeard
- Shanks

That could still be antagonistic factions. I dont think we can compare them to any previous "small scale" fights.


Zoro himself is set up to fight, in the least, King, Shiryu, and Mihawk, with the the setup for Fujitora there. The Monk Gorosei is a guess right now due to the Shodai Kitetsu and his possible ties to Wano in that regard. This doesnt include possible CP-0 Members, SSG members (if they are human weapon characters like Pacifista) or Elbaf centric characters that could be setup for potential Zoro fights.
Kaido and Blackbeard I agree with. The rest I'm very much doubtful would happen. For the most part, at least- oddly enough, I've got more faith in Ussop getting fights in some capacity for the rest of the series than Sanji and Jinbei.
 
Kaido and Blackbeard I agree with. The rest I'm very much doubtful would happen. For the most part, at least- oddly enough, I've got more faith in Ussop getting fights in some capacity for the rest of the series than Sanji and Jinbei.
If Luffy fights Akainu, im 90% the rest of the admirals will face his top brass. Mihawk is a character outside of Kaido and Blackbeard, so you can assume there is more than that.

Not sure why people are adamant on Blackbeard the only other major battle after Kaido, that's baffling to me when 90% of OPs major characters havent even collided yet. And this really goes back to the whole "OP is ending in 5 years argument". Its not.


Edit: I dont mean that in a negative way, but there is clearly a much bigger story happening beyond Wano, and I also think Vegapunk/Elbaf will be their own, separate things before the Final War/Lodestar/God Valley/Laughtale.


Oh well, we'll find out in like 2 years i guess when Wano finally ends and apparently One Piece will only have "2 more years left of story".
 
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If Luffy fight Akainu, im 90% the rest of the admirals will face his top brass.
Fujitora's more likely to fight on Luffy's side than against him. Look at what he said about Luffy at the end of Dressrosa, he's practically in love with the boy. And Ryokugyu's meant to be as anti-government as he is.
Mihawk is a character outside of Kaido and Blackbeard, so you can assume there is more than that.
Mihawk and Zoro is something that needs some closure, I agree there.
Not sure why people are adamant on Blackbeard the only other major battle after Kaidp, that's baffling to me when 90% of OPs major characters havent even collided yet. And this really goes back to the whole "OP is ending in 5 years argument". Its not.
It probably won't, no.

But it is in the last stages. Oda'll take longer getting there than he thinks, but he already said he's not going to be drawing as much fights anymore, and given how the timeskip has went I have to believe him. WCI in particular showed that. He only gave Luffy a fight yet the arc lasted much longer than he expected. In the old days he'd have had real fights for Sanji, Jinbei, at least one of Nami, Chopper and Brook, some of Bege, Pedro, Carrot and the Vinsmokes. Instead all we got was a page of them showing one attack that took out some fodder at best. The closest thing we got to an actual fight with some flow to it was Pedro vs Tamago.
Edit: I dont mean that in a negative way, but there is clearly a much bigger story happening beyond Wano, and I also think Vegapunk/Elbaf will be their own, separate things before the Final War/Lodestar/God Valley/Laughtale.
If by separate thing you mean a more self-contained arc that doesn't really effect the rest of the world- I'm not really sure there's anything like that left for the series. I think at best Elbaf could be a more lighthearted arc than Wano, with Shanks and the Red Hairs and the last Road Poneglyph, before we go right back into the heavy stuff with the last arc.
 
Fujitora's more likely to fight on Luffy's side than against him. Look at what he said about Luffy at the end of Dressrosa, he's practically in love with the boy. And Ryokugyu's meant to be as anti-government as he is.


Mihawk and Zoro is something that needs some closure, I agree there.


It probably won't, no.

But it is in the last stages. Oda'll take longer getting there than he thinks, but he already said he's not going to be drawing as much fights anymore, and given how the timeskip has went I have to believe him. WCI in particular showed that. He only gave Luffy a fight yet the arc lasted much longer than he expected. In the old days he'd have had real fights for Sanji, Jinbei, at least one of Nami, Chopper and Brook, some of Bege, Pedro, Carrot and the Vinsmokes. Instead all we got was a page of them showing one attack that took out some fodder at best. The closest thing we got to an actual fight with some flow to it was Pedro vs Tamago.


If by separate thing you mean a more self-contained arc that doesn't really effect the rest of the world- I'm not really sure there's anything like that left for the series. I think at best Elbaf could be a more lighthearted arc than Wano, with Shanks and the Red Hairs and the last Road Poneglyph, before we go right back into the heavy stuff with the last arc.
I think, just between Marines and Pirates, Fujitora would uphold his duties, even if he's not bad. If, lets say, Akainu is trying to stop Luffy from doing something extreme, I can see Fuji acting as a roadblock for Zoro.

The rest I agree with you somewhat. I definitely understand that fights have taken a backseat, but Imo, it has stemmed from a few things:

- The one, long continuous plot since Punk Hazard (why not much happened on PH or Zo)
- The splitting of the crew and setup of the Strawhat Fleet (why only 3 strawhats received actual fights on DR)
- The Majority of the WCI characters being present in Wano (Why only Luffy recrived fights on WCI)

Essentially, it all really depends on how Wano handles battles, personal growth and ends storylines for any number of characters. Lets say:

- Every Strawhat receives a signficant growth fight
- All of Kaido and Big Mom's major forces get signficant panel time before they fall.

Then i can see how the last ~300 chapters were worth Oda skimping out partially on fights, to lead up to this moment in particular and make payoffs. This would give me more confidence in how he deals with the rest of the likely elongated story and conclusion we are leading towards.

If not....then oh well i guess lol.

I do however, see 1 or 2 more major arcs before shit hits the fan. Wano probably isn't exactly close to the end of the NW, so geographically they still have a way to go I think. Its why Ill always argue for Vegapunk, Elbaf and Lodestar in the least occuring before we get to this Final War business, though we'll see major set-up's for it like we have been seeing already and in between the next set of arcs. Im confident in this only because we know now Laughtale is not at the end of GL, but hidden somewhere else, in a way the story can head back towards Mariejois/Fishman island for the Final War (if FI's prophesied destruction is to be belived).

And yes I think Vegapunk and Elbaf will be major. Not Dressrosa/Wano sized, but there are a number of characters that still required their stories to be addressed before we even move to the final war. Also, Bonney and Urogue are the final 2 supernova that have yet to receive crucial focus in an arc, and I think its a pointer to tell us on what Oda may have in store:

- Vegapunk: Can deal with Kuma/Bonney, Sabo/Vivi, and if his facility is located on God Valley like im hypothesizing, then it will be a focal point for Rocks/Garp/Roger, The Revolutionaries/CP-0/Tennryubito. It can deal with the return of Smoker and maybe, finally Crocodile. The Marine Science Division or the SSG has been formally revealed, nor has CP-0.

- Elbaf: I feel like this would be the last, major adventure arc this series would have before the final war/laugh tale. The huge tree (Yggdrassil?) On the island clearly is signficant. But to what extent? Does it lead to other lands or sky islands? Is the final road poneglyph hidden up there? Maybe Urogue has a major arc here? Maybe he can elaborate on the sky people and the moon? Maybe Enel returns? Maybe Uranus is related to the island?

- Lodestar: Short, Zo sized arc to celebrate the end of a journey and lead to what is coming.


I won't go beyond this because I just do not know, but I can see the above after Wano taking 3-4 years of its own context to setup the final major battles.

If the above does not happen, be sure that the final war will have to address the plots anyway, leading ti an even longer final arc. This is why I believe the Strawhats have a few more islands to go to after Wano while the Final war ramps up. We need to learn more about Vegapunk, his weapons, the Revo's, CP-0, Kuma, the Giants and more because lets be honest: The Final War is about much more than anything ive mentioned and we all know it:

- Marines
- World Government/National Treasure
- Blackbeard/Shanks
- Ancient Weapons
- Fishman Islands destruction/Noah


Imagine the above being combined with everything Ive mentioned, theres simply too much. We need to close out the Supernova plotlines (essentially make them all allies), tie back all of the Shicbukai ones (Hancock, Mihawk, Weevil, Kuma, and Buggy; where are they going next?), bring back old characters with clear plot directions (Bon Clay/Magellan, Moria, Crocodile, Enel, and Lucci) and much more. We also need to just learn more about Shanks and Blackbeard in general.


Tldr: There is certainly content between Wano and the Final War and if not, OP's geography is fucky and the Final War is about to be so bloated its not even funny.


Edit: Also love the idea of Franky being the one to take on Kuma, while the rest take care of other WG/Vegapunk related opponents. Old pacifista vs. New Pacifista seems awesome. Plus, it was forshadowed before Fishman Island.
 
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I still want luffy to feel weevil or pretty much any top commander without g4 either before or after wano
Also him beating shanks or linlin in elbaf to prove he can solo a yonko

I really want luffy to fight an admiral idk which tho but maybe itll happen when we meet up with vegapunk

Him vs teach is basically set in stone but the fact luffy a devil fruit user is gonna beat him is even more hype
 
SHs vs BBP

luffy vs bb
zoro vs shiryu
sanji vs laffite/ sanji vs avalo pizaro
franky vs burgess
ussop vs van augur
nami vs devon
jimbei vs vasco
robin vs sanjuan wolf
brook vs laffite


SHs vs Red haired pirates


luffy vs shanks

zoro vs mihawk(he won’t join he will either ally himself with them or just go chilling with them)

sanji vs ben beckman

ussop vs yassop
jimbei vs lucky roo


admirals


luffy vs akainu
zoro vs fujitora
sanji vs kizaru
kid vs greenbull
 
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