[FNZ] Role Madness Game 04: Bleach Soul Society Arc

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Celestia

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I'm kind of confused about this. It seems reasonable to talk about certain roles in the arc if you have some knowledge on it and are providing good explanations on who would be scum or town from the story. From their discussions the previous day they both provided enough to have some reasonable explanations from a couple people to lynch.



From what I remember, didn't Shunsui and Ukitake do something during the execution? They tried blocking Yamamota, but I forget why.
there is some difference between discussing a little and spending most of the day about it
Mafia is games depends on read mostly not just mechanics and setup
 
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Dragomir

I've done my reread and I have assessed that my man Rej is full of it. Not because he tried to save TAC but just how he pushed against Beta. Let's take a look at his posts shall we?
and if the Ryoka are mafia, then what does it make Rukia? got my point finally? sorry for absence
I still think Ryoka are mafia, cuz the Royka defeat the Shinigami Captains before the stuff with Aizen happens so if they want to save Rukia from an execution, then it makes the Ryoka mafia in my eyes with an additional objective of saving Rukia, which is either a hidden mechanic or player.
And since the Shinigami Captains want to execute Rukia for being a traitor it makes sense for Rukia to be not white-listed in a universe where the Shinigami Captains are town.
That's why I clash with Beta, he follows the opposite ideology about this setup.
He was persistently against Beta for no good reason and he started off with a "clash in ideology". They both shared the same idea that Ryoka is mafia and Sheningami are town, but where they differed is what faction Rukia would align with. That is a very minimal point to get worked up about and assume somebody is scum just cause they disagreed with you. I have a hard time believing that thinking Rukia to be a town-aligned role is at all alignment indicative of the person who thought it. But Rej just milked it and pushed it forward for his read on Beta. It was arbitrary and weak.

Later on, I had asked him just why the clash in ideology was a bad thing as townies don't always mindmeld.
because I am town and I don't like Rukia, she betrayed Soul Society by lending a mortal human her powers:whitepress:
This is his answer. The fuck is this? :sanjimeh:

Isn't this technically angle-shooting? Whatever personal feelings you got for Rukia have nothing to do with the game or Beta my dude. Trying to use it as a reason to pursue a scum read is a horrible look. If you want to say that you were just joking than that's just as bad as it shows that you had no reason in the first place and just used Beta as a fake scum read. Actually, it looks like that regardless.
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gosh, then Rukia is a town with a hidden bastard mechanic that helps mafia, could be possible too, we are here to gather ideas and not clash ideas, because here it becomes scummy:tchpepe:
In this post, he pretty much just agrees with Beta with saying that Rukia can be town. There isn't any clash in ideology anymore and has no reason to suspect Beta.
Vote him with me please. He is full of shit and we both seem to share the same ideology about the setup.
But once more, the dude still forces a Beta scum read with him being "full of shit"—which he provided no reasoning to support—and now Beta sharing the same ideology with him is bad for some reason...even though he suspected Beta for NOT having the same ideology as him.

Y'all can't tell me you don't see this bullshit.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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I've done my reread and I have assessed that my man Rej is full of it. Not because he tried to save TAC but just how he pushed against Beta. Let's take a look at his posts shall we?

He was persistently against Beta for no good reason and he started off with a "clash in ideology". They both shared the same idea that Ryoka is mafia and Sheningami are town, but where they differed is what faction Rukia would align with. That is a very minimal point to get worked up about and assume somebody is scum just cause they disagreed with you. I have a hard time believing that thinking Rukia to be a town-aligned role is at all alignment indicative of the person who thought it. But Rej just milked it and pushed it forward for his read on Beta. It was arbitrary and weak.

Later on, I had asked him just why the clash in ideology was a bad thing as townies don't always mindmeld.

This is his answer. The fuck is this? :sanjimeh:

Isn't this technically angle-shooting? Whatever personal feelings you got for Rukia have nothing to do with the game or Beta my dude. Trying to use it as a reason to pursue a scum read is a horrible look. If you want to say that you were just joking than that's just as bad as it shows that you had no reason in the first place and just used Beta as a fake scum read. Actually, it looks like that regardless.

In this post, he pretty much just agrees with Beta with saying that Rukia can be town. There isn't any clash in ideology anymore and has no reason to suspect Beta.

But once more, the dude still forces a Beta scum read with him being "full of shit"—which he provided no reasoning to support—and now Beta sharing the same ideology with him is bad for some reason...even though he suspected Beta for NOT having the same ideology as him.

Y'all can't tell me you don't see this bullshit.
Who was the other player who voted Beta?
 
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Dragomir

Red is talking in a way that she is confident about what she says not cuz she knows bleach but cuz she is town
so for now I am leaning on her to be town
TAC don't sound necessarily fishy :unsure: and there are ppl who agree with his thoughts
but this whole going back and forth is interesting

I think I would rather lynch someone who is more fishy rn and leave these two for later
What do you think about Rej? I just made a whole post explaining his bullshit.
what do u think about it tho @Denim ?
I'll have to agree with you. Red is incredibly assertive in her tone and with her reasons. The way she's straight up combatting TAC's way of thinking just shows how her thoughts about her setup not in a TMI sort of way but a mix of Bleach knowledge and her own role.

TAC I believe is town as well cause I think he made a lot of sense in what he says about the setup and Ryoka. It's a very well-thought out belief about the mechanics and the setup that to me doesn't sound like TMI or mafia trying to manipulate anybody. It's genuine.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Rej is looking pretty suspicious now. Does @Rej have anything to say? Also, @Reborn if you haven't already, can you share your reads? As someone quiet Day 1, I think it's imperative we understand your interpretation of the game.
 
Red is talking in a way that she is confident about what she says not cuz she knows bleach but cuz she is town
so for now I am leaning on her to be town
TAC don't sound necessarily fishy :unsure: and there are ppl who agree with his thoughts
but this whole going back and forth is interesting

I think I would rather lynch someone who is more fishy rn and leave these two for later
Didn't you think Red was Wolf/Mafia just earlier?

there is still something unresolved with All red and Tac I feel like it's WvsV type of argument
Can you explain in more detail why you now think the argument is now town aligned and not mafia anymore?

there is some difference between discussing a little and spending most of the day about it
Mafia is games depends on read mostly not just mechanics and setup
Their discussions about the setup did provide reads to the players in it. I also see no problem with going in depth in their discussion for a whole day, it gives the opposing sides in the argument more to point out and pick at and read.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I literally lost the track with all that bs set up talks you guys did whole day.....

It just added more confusion into the mix.... sigh

My reads till page 8 are simple

Tac, all red, final, playa were openly debating about set up...

Denim was going around questioning everyone which gives me feel he is townie

Ces didn't participate in scum hunting much but there are few of her posts which suggests it was because how much day discussion got diverted

Rej - that guy was making not much sense

Korgothwolf (too much of diplomatic and beating around the bush)and jack and akai totally playing safe.....

Nw- hard to say about him.... looking more calculative
I am getting headache interpreting all the stuffs you guys discussed
 
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