Future Events Garling is the real villain among the celestial dragons, not Imu

[Shiroyru]

His "plot armour" is that he's so strong they leave him be, because he is a retired pirate who is not making any moves. The risk reward is not even worth it. They have to mobilize atleast an Admiral + a fleet, possibly two Admirals to minimize losses and guarantee a capture.

Capturing or killing a man that powerful on an inhabitated/ popular government affiliated island is extremely difficult to do, it's not like an Admiral can just go to Saboady and unleash his full power. And to tackle a man like this you have to be prepared to do so.

He knows the true history. That alone is enough reason for the WG to invest a lot of resources into taking him out.

Why is it such a big deal that the Marines would need to send 2 Admirals to comfortably beat Rayleigh? Admirals are just sitting on their asses doing nothing important 99.9% of the time anyways, and MF is like an hour away from Sabaody

 

[Reborn]

His "plot armour" is that he's so strong they leave him be, because he is a retired pirate who is not making any moves. The risk reward is not even worth it. They have to mobilize atleast an Admiral + a fleet, possibly two Admirals to minimize losses and guarantee a capture.

Capturing or killing a man that powerful on an inhabitated/ popular government affiliated island is extremely difficult to do, it's not like an Admiral can just go to Saboady and unleash his full power. And to tackle a man like this you have to be prepared to do so.

Putting so many resources and risking collateral damage into a retired drunkard ship coater Rayleigh capture doesn't make much sense. This is actually very believable and reflects real world decisions militaries make.

He knows the true history. That alone is enough reason for the WG to invest a lot of resources into taking him out.

Why is it such a big deal that the Marines would need to send 2 Admirals to comfortably beat Rayleigh? Admirals are just sitting on their asses doing nothing important 99.9% of the time anyways, and MF is like an hour away from Sabaody

Actually, shiryu indeed has a point.


Knowing true history is big threat for the government. And, I don't think WG would consider about civilians losses or resources to keep this hidden.

They would simply go for cleansing to keep this history hidden.


So, it's kind off off that why no one came after Ray.

I don't think Ray being strong is any valid reason neither the presence of civilians on sabody.


Only reason I can think off is time.

It's been such a long time since Roger died, that Roger pirates simply dipped for like 25 years or so and they kept their mouth shut.


If they didn't reveal it in 25 years... there is no reason to believe they will do so now.

Also, they are pirates. Through out the world, their words don't carry much weight.. Remember how world was shocked to hear "Ace is son of Evil Roger".

 

[Tora]

The real plot armor is that Shakky, being former member of Rocks pirates and former captain of Kuja pirates, was able to continue to operate a bar herself to this day without marines or WG noticing lol

 

[ZenZu]

He knows the true history. That alone is enough reason for the WG to invest a lot of resources into taking him out.

Why is it such a big deal that the Marines would need to send 2 Admirals to comfortably beat Rayleigh? Admirals are just sitting on their asses doing nothing important 99.9% of the time anyways, and MF is like an hour away from Sabaody

Lmfao mobilizing 2 fucking Admirals for a mission to do what? Capture a ship coater Rayleigh? What a childish decision when you are running an entire planet. The risk reward is so skewed it's not even funny. Do you realize they don't even mobilize two Admirals for like 2 Yonkou meeting up lol?

They actually didn't even know for certain where Rayleigh was, he wasn't bothering them. When Rayleigh finally showed himself their resources were focused on the Marineford War. After the war it didn't get any easier, they lost Kuzan and had to draft two new Admirals, then they relocated in the New World smack dab in Yonkou waters. They’re not managing a weekend hobby club, they’re running the entire world.

This is the one time Oda doesn't want to do unrealistic mickey mouse stuff, and you want him to make a mickey mouse military 🤦‍♂️

Do you understand how difficult it would be to convince the Fleet Admiral to make that move?

Now....since the truth of the world is a hidden secret concerning the CDs, plus the Gorosei and HKs can teleport, this is one area you can say they should have moved. Monitored Rayleigh closely with CP spies, and then tried murdering him in his sleep or something themselves if needed. But honestly Rayleigh is too strong for this to even work cleanly, he would catch on very fast, and the Holy Knights are complete bums compared to him for the most part and they know this.

The gorosei aren't gonna step into the lower realm and reveal themselves and cause destruction to the CDs favorite island just to capture an old ship coater either. This would fall back on the Navy, and for all the reasons I already listed above, this is just a major ask. No Fleet Admiral is oking this, not under the circumstances they were in.

 

[Shiroyru]

Lmfao mobilizing 2 fucking Admirals for a mission to do what? Capture a ship coater Rayleigh? What a childish decision when you are running an entire planet. The risk reward is so skewed it's not even funny. Do you realize they don't even mobilize two Admirals for like 2 Yonkou meeting up lol?

They actually didn't even know for certain where Rayleigh was, he wasn't bothering them. When Rayleigh finally showed himself their resources were focused on the Marineford War. After the war it didn't get any easier, they lost Kuzan and had to draft two new Admirals, then they relocated in the New World smack dab in Yonkou waters. They’re not managing a weekend hobby club, they’re running the entire world.

This is the one time Oda doesn't want to do unrealistic mickey mouse stuff, and you want him to make a mickey mouse military 🤦‍♂️

Do you understand how difficult it would be to convince the Fleet Admiral to make that move?

Now....since the truth of the world is a hidden secret concerning the CDs, plus the Gorosei and HKs can teleport, this is one area you can say they should have moved. Monitored Rayleigh closely with CP spies, and then tried murdering him in his sleep or something themselves if needed. But honestly Rayleigh is too strong for this to even work cleanly, he would catch on very fast, and the Holy Knights are complete bums compared to him for the most part and they know this.

The gorosei aren't gonna step into the lower realm and reveal themselves and cause destruction to the CDs favorite island just to capture an old ship coater either. This would fall back on the Navy, and for all the reasons I already listed above, this is just a major ask. No Fleet Admiral is oking this, not under the circumstances they were in.

Bro Admirals legit don’t do shit. Kuzan was just chilling on some remote island all by himself and taking a nap. It’s not like the Admirals are on important missions 24/7. Why would it be so inconvenient to tell 2 Admirals to get off their asses and go capture Rayleigh?

 

[soupongo]

His "plot armour" is that he's so strong they leave him be, because he is a retired pirate who is not making any moves. The risk reward is not even worth it. They have to mobilize atleast an Admiral + a fleet, possibly two Admirals to minimize losses and guarantee a capture.

Capturing or killing a man that powerful on an inhabitated/ popular government affiliated island is extremely difficult to do, it's not like an Admiral can just go to Saboady and unleash his full power. And to tackle a man like this you have to be prepared to do so.

Putting so many resources and risking collateral damage into a retired drunkard ship coater Rayleigh capture doesn't make much sense. This is actually very believable and reflects real world decisions militaries make.

Retired or not, Rayleigh stepped outside of the acceptable bounds of behavior when he decided to protect Luffy who attacked a celestial Dragon, and it gets worse when you consider all the recent plot relevent reasons why the government would want Luffy dead(namely the Nika stuff), and mind you, they already had motives to kill Rayleigh, since we know they wanted to hunt down everyone related to Roger, including his son, which leads to an entire war..

Plus, it´s not like the story is just pirates and marines anymore. The current plot about the government is that they are wiping out an entire islands population out for no real reason(so they don´t really care about civilian casualties) and that they have guys who can teleport, as well as Imu, who can turn people into demons and shit.

 

[Sugoi]

except for people who think he´s cool for being top 1 or whatever.

This is such a huge majority though?, "omg imu is so mysterious and powerful" is exactly what oda wants you to think, he is written that way, with his whole silent/calm demeanour combined with the silhouette, the close ups on his eyes, black lightning spam, aura spam ect, oda is trying to get people to think hes cool and powerful and its working. They are even selling Imu plushies and oda said he bought one. The fans love the character.

 

[ZenZu]

Bro Admirals legit don’t do shit. Kuzan was just chilling on some remote island all by himself and taking a nap. It’s not like the Admirals are on important missions 24/7. Why would it be so inconvenient to tell 2 Admirals to get off their asses and go capture Rayleigh?

Because an Admiral moving is not some sunday stroll, or some covert operation. They will come with battleships and it will make headlines. It's basically waging war on an island.

You're taking this way too lightly and treating it like this is dbz or something. Getting an Admiral on the full offensive is nearly the equivalent of pressing the nuke button on a nation. You don't just do that.

Also, did you just ignore like 90% of my post? They didn't actually know for a fact where Rayleigh was, he left them alone and lived very quietly. When he acted against Kizaru, it was already too late. They were dealing with the upcoming Marineford War, and from there things kept spiralling (Sengoku retiring, Kuzan quitting, moving HQ to Yonkou territory, Warlords being replaced by Seraphim) Rayleigh wouldn't even make top 100 priorities as it concerns the Navy.

Kizaru literally said it out of his own mouth, it would take considerable prep/manpower to deal with a Rayleigh capture, especially on that island. This isn't some remote deserted place, that an Admiral can just come in and blow up to oblivion. It's basically a CD vacation spot, and even if it wasn't it's not an easy decision. Now factor in the war and all the internal changes going on in the Navy, location shift in Yonkou waters and it makes no sense to send so many resources to wage war on a top tier that isn't even bothering them really.

It all goes back to risk/reward. And it's not checking out, especially not for Akainu's Marines. He would never ok it.

 

[soupongo]

This is such a huge majority though?, .

I honestly don´t think Imu would even make the top 20 in a popularity poll tbh.

"omg imu is so mysterious and powerful" is exactly what oda wants you to think, he is written that way, with his whole silent/calm demeanour combined with the silhouette, the close ups on his eyes, black lightning spam, aura spam ect, oda is trying to get people to think hes cool and powerful and its working. They are even selling Imu plushies and oda said he bought one. The fans love the character.

If anything, it seems like it´s Garling who the fans saw as the king of aura farming. While Oda already had Imu on his knees, the entire fandom was convinced that Garling was this gigachad who stood above all the Gorosei and gave WB ptsd. People were comparing him to Madara Uchiha and Aizen.

 

[mimzymo93]

He is but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't funny that Garling got slammed by Xebec like that. Still kind of shit writing from a narrative standpoint but it's funny

Only saving grace is if we find out Garling is only in his 20s and rocks is the strongest pirate In history next to joyboy

 

[MonsterKaido]

Yeah ray does have plot armor. 2 admirals are more than enough to capture old ray no doubt. Kizaru alone can keep pace with old ray.

 

[Definitivo]

Does the Navy even know for sure where Rayleigh is?

Really, not going after the Yonkos or the Ds is a much bigger plot hole.

 

[Bad English]

Rayleigh was hiding. World is big enough to hide if you are not causing incidents.

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The real plot armor is that Shakky, being former member of Rocks pirates and former captain of Kuja pirates, was able to continue to operate a bar herself to this day without marines or WG noticing lol

It seems like Marines and WG doesn't drink in plebs' bars