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No Haki on the sword is one application of advanced Haki just like creating Haki barrier or Haki shockwave is another. Whether or not its trash or uber depends on the Haki level of the person using it
I don't fucking know if it is same level or not. All I know is Zoro was able to tame a sword with his Haki that no one in Wano history has been able to do which basically says that Zoro has stronger Haki that Ashura Doji, Kawamatsu and even Hyogoro who is Luffy's advanced Haki teacher. And the other person who had Haki strong enough to tame Enma had Haki strong enough to permanently scar Kaido
While all Luffy so far has shown is shown ability to destroy objects from inside, whether or not it works on Kaido remains to be seen. While Enma is actually tested and last person who had Haki strong enough to tame Enma was able to permanently scar Kaido. So yeah Zoro may as well still have stronger CoA than Luffy.
I don't fucking know if it is same level or not. All I know is Zoro was able to tame a sword with his Haki that no one in Wano history has been able to do which basically says that Zoro has stronger Haki that Ashura Doji, Kawamatsu and even Hyogoro who is Luffy's advanced Haki teacher. And the other person who had Haki strong enough to tame Enma had Haki strong enough to permanently scar Kaido
While all Luffy so far has shown is shown ability to destroy objects from inside, whether or not it works on Kaido remains to be seen. While Enma is actually tested and last person who had Haki strong enough to tame Enma was able to permanently scar Kaido. So yeah Zoro may as well still have stronger CoA than Luffy.
It is not, put the pictore that states haki on the sword is higher than on the fist.
So stop at that!
Oden did so my man and he was not stated to have the same penetrating haki that Luffy has.
And does not have the same haki as Luffy, only Ray has that was way above Oden and current Zoro!
Are you even reading what are you saying.
Hyo stated that this is the furthest you can go for now.
Only Ray had it not hyou not Oden.
And Oden does not have this Haki, his haki can on only one sword cut Kaido so it is not only that haki.
Zoro is not Oden so no Zoro has nothing until he shows what he can do.
And at the end of the Wano arc Luffy will defeat Kaido not Zoro.
So even that does not work.
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So stop at that!
Oden did so my man and he was not stated to have the same penetrating haki that Luffy has.
And does not have the same haki as Luffy, only Ray has that was way above Oden and current Zoro!
Are you even reading what are you saying.
Hyo stated that this is the furthest you can go for now.
Only Ray had it not hyou not Oden.
And Oden does not have this Haki, his haki can on only one sword cut Kaido so it is not only that haki.
Zoro is not Oden so no Zoro has nothing until he shows what he can do.
And at the end of the Wano arc Luffy will defeat Kaido not Zoro.
So even that does not work.
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What lol? When did I say Haki on fist is stronger than Haki on sword? Haki on sword is just more advanced application than Haki on fist as you are channeling your excess energy out of your body and putting it on an object. Same as Haki shockwave is you pulling your access energy out of your body and making a shock wave.
It doesn't mean every Haki on sword is stronger than every Haki on fist. Haki on Kinnemon's sword is probably still weaker than Haki on Katakuri's fist. But then again Haki on Zoro's sword is stronger than Haki on Vergo's fist.
lmaoo **** you chill
It doesn't mean every Haki on sword is stronger than every Haki on fist. Haki on Kinnemon's sword is probably still weaker than Haki on Katakuri's fist. But then again Haki on Zoro's sword is stronger than Haki on Vergo's fist.
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lmaoo **** you chill
Ok then put that picture from the manga!
Statement anything.
Vergo did that shit casually and he was one-shotted by Law.
We did not see Cracker or Kakuri use that and those neg diff Zoro.
And ... we are talking vs fist of Character on this level not mid tiers.
We are talking vs characters that are above his level : Luffy!
I am chill :cheers:
Statement anything.
Vergo did that shit casually and he was one-shotted by Law.
We did not see Cracker or Kakuri use that and those neg diff Zoro.
And ... we are talking vs fist of Character on this level not mid tiers.
We are talking vs characters that are above his level : Luffy!
I am chill :cheers:
Okay then put a picture from manga stating that barrier Haki is stronger than Haki on fist
Boa sisters were using it casually and they were bitch slapped by absolute piece of dog shit like pre TS Luffy
Zoro eats cracker for break fast at this point and Mochi for lunch fuck outta here. These fucks would die if they tried taming Enma lol.
Haki on fist can also be stronger than gamma knife Haki lol.
Just cuz Rayleigh can use gamma knife Haki doesn't mean his Haki is confirmed stronger than Garp's who only uses Haki on fists
Boa sisters were using it casually and they were bitch slapped by absolute piece of dog shit like pre TS Luffy
Zoro eats cracker for break fast at this point and Mochi for lunch fuck outta here. These fucks would die if they tried taming Enma lol.
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Haki on fist can also be stronger than gamma knife Haki lol.
Just cuz Rayleigh can use gamma knife Haki doesn't mean his Haki is confirmed stronger than Garp's who only uses Haki on fists
This haki has yet to be even mathed.
Guess what Zoro just tamed a sword with his Haki that many high tiers in Wano can't tame, including Hyogoro, Ashura Doji and Kawamatsu.
And Zoro actually has fought a high tier, he fought Kyoshiro while missing his strongest weapon yet Kyoshiro failed to even land a single hit on him
He has also fought and physically overpowered an attack of a top tier (Fujitora).
Yes with COC ... show me Zoro doing that ... LOL wait he does not have that 
He does that with COC that does no damage to a physical objects and you compare that with Zoro that bypassed whose higher tier COA let alone a top tier.
And Zoro did what when Kyoshiro was smirking and Zoro was serious?
Holy shit he did:
You should read all the manga not only bits:
So G3 scrached Fuji LOL.
He does that with COC that does no damage to a physical objects and you compare that with Zoro that bypassed whose higher tier COA let alone a top tier.
And Zoro did what when Kyoshiro was smirking and Zoro was serious?
Holy shit he did:
You should read all the manga not only bits:
So G3 scrached Fuji LOL.
Lol Haki on sword is literally advanced application of Haki per Luffy's own words. What Luffy called advanced Haki was Rayleigh channeling Haki out of his body in form of shock wave. Then when Hyogoro was explaining that phenomenon, he called it Ryouou which is also swordsmen's ability to channel excess energy out of their body and becoming one with their blades having ability to cut everything and nothing.
So not I am not using speculation to support my speculation. Hell I am not even speculating, I am literally stating facts from manga word for word. We were told this in manga right here
Read this fucking panel carefully lol, you maybe able to understand. "The thing you seem to call Haki, its called Ryouou in Wanoo, the word signifies it FLOWS" the keyword is flow, and then Luffy is trying to making Haki flow out of him (Aka use Ryouou) but fails to use it when there is Haki only on his fist but it doesn't flow. And in the last chapter it was said Enma sucks Ryouou out of user's body. Again focusing on flow of Haki.
If you still don't understand why flowing Haki out of your body and putting it on swords is advanced application of Haki (Aka Ryouou) you need to try this link and make your reading comprehension better
https://www.grammarbank.com/reading-comprehension-test.html
So not I am not using speculation to support my speculation. Hell I am not even speculating, I am literally stating facts from manga word for word. We were told this in manga right here
Read this fucking panel carefully lol, you maybe able to understand. "The thing you seem to call Haki, its called Ryouou in Wanoo, the word signifies it FLOWS" the keyword is flow, and then Luffy is trying to making Haki flow out of him (Aka use Ryouou) but fails to use it when there is Haki only on his fist but it doesn't flow. And in the last chapter it was said Enma sucks Ryouou out of user's body. Again focusing on flow of Haki.
If you still don't understand why flowing Haki out of your body and putting it on swords is advanced application of Haki (Aka Ryouou) you need to try this link and make your reading comprehension better
https://www.grammarbank.com/reading-comprehension-test.html
Lol Haki on sword is literally advanced application of Haki per Luffy's own words. What Luffy called advanced Haki was Rayleigh channeling Haki out of his body in form of shock wave. Then when Hyogoro was explaining that phenomenon, he called it Ryouou which is also swordsmen's ability to channel excess energy out of their body and becoming one with their blades having ability to cut everything and nothing.
So not I am not using speculation to support my speculation. Hell I am not even speculating, I am literally stating facts from manga word for word. We were told this in manga right here
Read this fucking panel carefully lol, you maybe able to understand. "The thing you seem to call Haki, its called Ryouou in Wanoo, the word signifies it FLOWS" the keyword is flow, and then Luffy is trying to making Haki flow out of him (Aka use Ryouou) but fails to use it when there is Haki only on his fist but it doesn't flow. And in the last chapter it was said Enma sucks Ryouou out of user's body. Again focusing on flow of Haki.
If you still don't understand why flowing Haki out of your body and putting it on swords is advanced application of Haki (Aka Ryouou) you need to try this link and make your reading comprehension better
https://www.grammarbank.com/reading-comprehension-test.html
So not I am not using speculation to support my speculation. Hell I am not even speculating, I am literally stating facts from manga word for word. We were told this in manga right here
Read this fucking panel carefully lol, you maybe able to understand. "The thing you seem to call Haki, its called Ryouou in Wanoo, the word signifies it FLOWS" the keyword is flow, and then Luffy is trying to making Haki flow out of him (Aka use Ryouou) but fails to use it when there is Haki only on his fist but it doesn't flow. And in the last chapter it was said Enma sucks Ryouou out of user's body. Again focusing on flow of Haki.
If you still don't understand why flowing Haki out of your body and putting it on swords is advanced application of Haki (Aka Ryouou) you need to try this link and make your reading comprehension better
https://www.grammarbank.com/reading-comprehension-test.html
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Yes with COC ... show me Zoro doing that ... LOL wait he does not have that
He does that with COC that does no damage to physical object and you compare that with Zoro that bypassed whose higher tier COA let alone a top tier.
He does that with COC that does no damage to physical object and you compare that with Zoro that bypassed whose higher tier COA let alone a top tier.
Lmaoo at you so conveniently ignoring the panel of Zoro actually overpowering that attack and pushing Fuji meters back. At least have some intellectual integrity
Also lol at comparing Luffy a trash can who got sent flying by a simple Fuji attack and only managing to scar him when he is not using gravity powers to Zoro actually physically overpowering Fuji's strong gravity attack. Lol Zoro's feat takes a massive dump on Luffy's.
So this is uber advance:
This trash can will probably still pass out if he tried taming Enma like Zoro did. He can't even tame his own shitty gear 4th lmao.
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Genius when did Zoro do that and Luffy could not do it, are you that good at logic?
Did you read the manga or not, you are insisting that because Oden did it then Zoro already has done it and Luffy has not.
Intelligent one, you said that Zoro has uber COA!
Who's high tier COA has he broken to label him like that?
Genius when did Zoro do that and Luffy could not do it, are you that good at logic?
Did you read the manga or not, you are insisting that because Oden did it then Zoro already has done it and Luffy has not.
Intelligent one, you said that Zoro has uber COA!
Who's high tier COA has he broken to label him like that?
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Genius when did Zoro do that and Luffy could not do it, are you that good at logic?
Did you read the manga or not, you are insisting that because Oden did it then Zoro already has done it and Luffy has not.
Did you read the manga or not, you are insisting that because Oden did it then Zoro already has done it and Luffy has not.
Zoro has already done it though. He picked up Enma it sucked Haki out of him and he told that bitch give it back and it did give it back. Any other swordsmen in Wano according to Tengoyama woulda been drop dead unable to tame it.
While Zoro not only got his Haki back, he has been training with Enma for 3 days.
That all happened in Manga. Zoro has done it and Luffy hasn't. That is straight from manga. Luffy has yet to prove his Haki is on same level as Oden and Zoro and that he can tame Enma.
Lmaoo whose high tier CoA has Luffy broken for you to say Luffy's Haki is uber lol?
Zoro's Haki is uber because he was able to Tame a sword with his Haki that no one in Wano, not Hyogoro "The might blade" and Luffy's Ryuou teacher, not Ashura Doji, not Kawamatsu or anyone else can.
It only helps that Zoro straight casually drilled through a Full Body Haki user like Pica while Law had to rely on hax devil fruit to pull off a similar fruit. Vergo has done nothing to prove his Full Body Haki is all that much (if at all) stronger than Pica's. If anything both Vergo and Pica were portrayed similarly as far as FBH goes in their respective Vivre cards