Break Week General discussion about Female characters

#41
I'm just hoping Yamato is competent enough, she already showed that she can 1 shot a weaker fly six easily but she still needs to show more. Would be cool if she has a clash vs Smoothie however its time for a serious Male vs Female match that doesn't include Big Mom

I got excited when it was revealed her boobs weren't as big as Robin/Nami's, the bigger the breast the more useless/irrelevant a female character is gonna be so there is still hope (Hancock and Smoothie prime example)
It seemed that she was still able to keep up with Luffy even after Gear Second and Gear Third were used on her. A female melee fighter would be an interesting addition to the Straw Hats. Nami seemed like a melee fighter in the beginning with her staff, but isn’t really one anymore.
 
#44
I disagree with you! Oda is amazing with women in the story.

Otohime, Olivia, Dadan, Chifun, the Kuja empire, Bellemere, Kureha, Rouge, Vivi, Kuina, Koala, Alvida, Robin, Makino, Tashigi, Rebecca, Bello Betty, Catarina Devon, Mansherry, Monet and Madame Shirley.

There are many strong and amazing women with inspiring histories.

Not all of them are sex symbols or crybabes.

Oda handles with all types of women but we as readers tend to focus more on the ones that are portrayed as beauty queens,

We have all female archetypes, the queen, the princess, the supermodel, the fighter, he crybaby, he tsundere, the maid, the solo mother, the swordsman, the witch...

There are amazing litle girls, young ladies, fighters, doctors, scholars, pirates, marines, mothers and grandmas in one piece
 
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Formerly Seth

#47
Well, Oda's editors are the main reason Robin's character is irrelevant post time skip.

I don't know about Oda's personality and how he treats women. All we know is that he married a Nami cosplayer:pepeke:

From what I've read in the past he wanted to include more important moments for the women of One Piece but his editors are fucking chauvinists to some degree so they quickly put it out of his head.

One of the reasons I don't want Yamato in the crew is basically because I know she will go from cosplaying Oden into Nami v2 but with horns for the purpose of selling figurines.
 
#48
Probably some of the biggest examples of One Piece women that look distinctly different from Nami and are around the same age as her, but aren’t villains or generally hostile either, are probably Lola and Chiffon. Granted, a main point of Big Mom’s daughters were that they varied in appearance due to Big Mom seeking out all sorts of husbands of various races, going back to Big Mom wanting a society of various races accepting each other, but I’m sure it can still show that Oda can steer away from the Nami look in a positive way when he wants to. I suppose this point could also apply to Praline.

 
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#50
Now, before I answer your question, I will say that Imu has hightly possubility to be girl and final villain, so strongest character in OP world could be already female character(I mean she love to spend all day in garden and made 6 man to rule world, while she doing nothing , and only sometimes give crazy orders about commiting genocide and erase history sheet).
This whole topic is bit wrong case creating new female character is not that simple, I could show some reason why Oda is doing this:
1) Storywise it would be hard to justify strong female character who is still looking like female, now I mean with thick body, nice breasts, and just a bit strong arms. Imagine MissMonday that is even bigger, would you be satisfied? I doubt. While we already saw strongest male characters and all of them looking like bodybuilders who used too much testosteron: Garp, Akainu, Kaido etc
2) Storywise it would be hars to justify strong female character: girl should train 24/7 or fight all time, getting a lot of scars etc. So literaly you need girl who acting like a man...
3) You shoud explane why this big breast thick girl is Stonger than Luffy or Zoro...maybe bigger ambitions?!
Now ofcourse there are some ways of creating beatiful strong females:
1) Special creature - that Yamato, she was raised like a man, case I guess that Kaido idea to call his daugther as son. So we got good genes and powerful girl, who have everything that male category wanted to see, except her personality, which could be changed in the end of arc;
2) Science Experiment - that's Reiju who is actually strong enough, with problem that she didn't justify killing people, which made her weaker;
3) Moonlight mink girls- they got power only when Moon is full;
Now I want to discuss BigMom and why Oda doing that things with her. I believe that Oda just wanted to made BM gag character like Buggy, that made people to laugh. Why? Maybe that his way to somehow justify her, showing that she is not like Kaido. Oda even turned her to O-Lin, so I see that he wanted readers somehow like this character, just to made death of BigMom a bit different than Kaido. Which I doubt that could work, but I really believe that is Oda way to justify chatacter, and it's not cased by his woman hate.
So now lets talk about SH girls Nami and Robin, yes fanservice is main problem, but there are others:
1. Nami - storywise it's hard to give haki power to her, case even in timeskip she just learned science, and there wasn't showed any opponent that she could faced there. Ofcourse it could work if she awakened haki in battle now but for that she need to get full fight 1x1 which should happened in WCI arc and it never happened there. Instead of that Oda gave het Zeus power up, which actually could work for her, but only time will show how that could became permanent, case I don't see any other legit way for her to keep Zeus, except only eating devilfruit, which is different topic of discussion.
2 . Robin - so far I just don't understand Oda and why he never let her fight...she could have haki, and she is already strong...

P.S. In the end I blame editors for all fancervice that happened in OP, especially with Nami and Robin, I loved One Piece before timeskip so much, idk why Oda/editors decided to turn OP fanservice(which was here) into that really dirty staff, that made me sick, like bath in Wano with Nami and Robin.
 
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#52
I would rather bet on imu being Okama than a female strongest/main villain.
Why? Okama is part of revo army, also just look on how Imu doing things: she like never liked to rule the world, she doesn't bothered with small staff, she actually don't care about world itself, BUT she love to gave orders and have that power. She is cruel creature who could ordered enihilate contry just for her ideals. In those terms she represented Cercei from "Song of Ice and Fire", not the GOT TV show, or Daenerys. Ruthless woman, who rule the world.
Now why she is not okama, case in manga Okama was showed as people who knew who they are, and could enjoy their own lifystyle as that they chose. And Imu is absolutely different, she doesn't bothered for sitting on her throne all day, she actually just love the power itself, but because of fact that she use Gorosei to deal with everything it's obviosly that she don't like to do things, for her much better would be just spend all time in the garden. So yes, from that point Imu is ruthless, cruel, and flighty woman, who gained immortality and love to do nasty stuff like erasing from history. Obviosly that even with all that she is actually smart if she could create World Goverment and World Order. But with that I really doubt that she even bothered about whole that power stuff, which could be the case why she will lose in the end, and could explane why she is thick and possibly really beautiful. I believe that she is full of herself, type of narciss, who also enjoy slavery. And yet, I believe that she will be still really interesting character, much better than Kaguya LOL
 
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#53
Why? Okama is part of revo army, also just look on how Imu doing things: she like never liked to rule the world, she doesn't bothered with small staff, she actually don't care about world itself, BUT she love to gave orders and have that power. She is cruel creature who could ordered enihilate contry just for her ideals. In those terms she represented Cercei from "Song of Ice and Fire", not the GOT TV show, or Daenerys. Ruthless woman, who rule the world.
Now why she is not okama, case in manga Okama was showed as people who knew who they are, and could enjoy their own lifystyle as that they chose. And Imu is absolutely different, she doesn't bothered for sitting on her throne all day, she actually just love the power itself, but because of fact that she use Gorosei to deal with everything it's obviosly that she don't like to do things, for her much better would be just spend all time in the garden. So yes, from that point Imu is ruthless, cruel, and flighty woman, who gained immortality and love to do nasty stuff like erasing from history. Obviosly that even with all that she is actually smart if she could create World Goverment and World Order. But with that I really doubt that she even bothered about whole that power stuff, which could be the case why she will lose in the end, and could explane why she is thick and possibly really beautiful. I believe that she is full of herself, type of narciss, who also enjoy slavery. And yet, I believe that she will be still really interesting character, much better than Kaguya LOL
I did not read anything, but my comment probably shouldn't have gotten this response since I am implying I don't trust oda to do something like that.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#58
Yamato seems like an interesting mix of being masculine and feminine at the same time, appearing feminine by Oda’s design standards, but masculine for how aggressive and immodest she can be in addition to emulating Oden.
That's very true.

She happens to possess a level of combat spirit I also didn't spot in any other woman except for the Amazons. She would deserve to become the new Amazon Lily ruler @Zoro D Goat
 
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