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Goes to show you the sheer unpredictability that surrounds Kanki. Genpou was a top tier strategist who found his death at Kanki's hands, Kochou couldn't figure out what Kanki was doing, Ousen said that Kanki's thoughts escape even him and even asked Mouten his thoughts on what Kanki's objective were. And now he has Riboku dropping a sweat.
With that being said, Riboku is winning this war and Qin will receive a big L. He prepared the whole thing extremely well.
With that being said, Riboku is winning this war and Qin will receive a big L. He prepared the whole thing extremely well.
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After Riboku gathered his 30,000 strong army aiming to take the southern pass of Bu (and brought Houken for him to use, who then ended the Duke as Riboku had claimed right before the fight), he sieged Sai. Sai was able to hold out and give that extraordinary performace thanks to Sei; Shoubunkun himself said that King Sho (the God of War) wouldn't have been able to replicate Sei's performance.
The legendary guy who will later be the one to unify China was the one needed to stop Riboku there.
The legendary guy who will later be the one to unify China was the one needed to stop Riboku there.
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I want Kanki to survive this and become Qin enemy, and have Shin face him EoS. 
At that point, we'd get a flashback to Sei and Shin touring the aftermath of Eikyuu, during which Sei tells Shin he plans on disposing of Kan Ki once he has outlived his usefulness because he is a liability to his long-term plans, and must instead be made an example of the Power of Law - and it'll be the duty of the king's trusted sword to capture or eliminate Kan Ki.
Then we'd get the present day slaughter of Kan Ki's band and a cut forward to him being in custody in the back of a carriage on its way to Kanyou - which then may or not be ambushed an elite unit of Ordo's army sent to deliver Kan Ki to him.
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That's all well and good, but that shit was a humiliation for all the nations involved, and it was a black eye in particular for the principle parties behind the Coalition: Zhao and Chu.
RBK was punished for the loss. He was even resigned to accepting the death penalty.
I don't think any historian in our time or theirs would've considered it anything but a humiliating failure.
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From Jeeswag in TKC :
Kanki Army:
Kokuou sees that the HSU and the Gakuka made it out on the left and now the only ones defending the HQ are the Heki army at the front and another family that moved to the right to cover that area. Ringyoku's soldiers ask him what they should do as he looks back at Kanki while the soldier is wondering why the boss is not doing anything.
Zhao:
Riboku's soldier asks him what Kanki's weakness is as Riboku watches the Zhao army steadily make their way forward.
Qin:
Heki's soldiers also notice that the HSU and the Gakuka are out and says they should do the same. Heki stops them however and says it'd be too irresponsible of them to leave their position as they are in the honorable position of the center army charged with holding back the enemy. Heki's soldiers look with worry and one of the mountain people says Heki is too naive. Another tribe member says that's not the case because it's because Heki is at the front risking his life that the time Kanki has to come up with a plan is being extended and that it's because of people like him that armies do not easily fall. He then says that a man like Heki is too valuable to lose. They then notice that the Heki army is past their limit and says what they should do now is to make sure Heki makes it out alive otherwise the chief of the Mera tribe will give them hell.
At Kanki's HQ they notice the Zhao has broken through the Heki army and are getting closer. Marron turns to Kanki begging him to make a move because they're all goners if they just sit there. Kanki says it's still fine and says to send the remaining few from the Northern army to the front and a panel shows Marron making a fuss about it.
Zhao:
Riboku's soldiers see that their army is steadily marching towards Kanki's HQ and wonders why they're not seeing any movement from Kanki's HQ. One soldier wonders if there's a purpose to him not moving and Riboku cuts in saying that it's because even if he wants to make a move Kanki simply cannot. Riboku then goes on to talk about Kanki's history of how he started his rise to fame 9 years ago serving under General Mougou in his battle with Renpa. In that battle they saw Kanki leave their HQ and take the head of Genpou. Then at the battle of Kankoku Pass they saw Kanki do the unthinkable and leave his position to take the head of the Han general after coming down. Then at Kokuyou Hills he beat Keisha and even got Kisui to leave to take Kokuyou Hills. Most recently, in the face of the Kochou army who outnumbered his army 3 to 1 he got to Kochou's HQ and took him out to win the battle as well.
Riboku then says that from these 4 battles there lies 1 common theme between all of them. A soldier deduces that it's the "surprise attack" and "unorthodox" and Riboku confirms it. He then continues saying that this also means Kanki has never won a battle in an orthodox way. His soldier says it was because all the situations required something special to turn the tables, especially that battle against Kochou. Riboku agrees but says the Kokuyou Hills battle was different. When the HSU pushed past the Zhao left wing and was in a favorable position to attack the Zhao Kanki did nothing despite how no matter which method of fighting he went with it would have been favorable for the Qin. Just like now, Kanki did nothing and let go of that amazing chance. A soldier says that led to Keisha moving down and getting taken out because of it in the end. Riboku replies that if Keisha chose to stay still and made use of the inaction then the Zhao would have won. No matter what he should have remained to defend the hill instead of going on the attack.
Riboku says that the inaction wasn't because Kanki knew this would happen but rather he didn't know what to do with the situation the HSU presented. Because Kanki has not won a single battle using orthodox methods he knows that Kanki simply just does not know how to fight using those tactics. Kanki was put into battle as soon as he was recruited with no chance to really learn the basics of battle after becoming one of Mougou's arms. Despite this he kept winning his battles and Riboku had no choice but to call him a genius and a monster. However, underneath all of that lies Kanki's weakness of not knowing how to fight other than using unorthodox methods.
As the soldiers stand in shock Riboku says this is why Kanki is unable to move right now. In this situation where he cannot pull any special move he simply doesn't know what to do. He then goes on to say that if there's anything to be careful of it's to make sure they don't make any big moves. In Kochou's case he was basically about to win but moved too far forward and because of that he lost his life. His soldiers asks if that's why Riboku hasn't moved generals like Bananji yet. Riboku says they will use the strength of their numbers to slowly take out the enemy and thru that situation where Kanki won't be able to do anything they will kill him as well.
Qin:
As the Zhao gets closer to Kanki's HQ the soldiers are freaking out telling Marron everything and Marron says he knows and assumes Kanki's still doing nothing but he looks back and realizes Kanki is just looking at the sky. Kanki chuckles then says he has orders to Marron. Marron asks who the orders are for and Kanki replies saying it's for every head of the clans that make up the Kanki army.
Zhao:
Riboku thinks to himself that they almost took out all the enemies who block their way to Kanki's HQ and thinks if Kanki's HQ is going to do anything now is the only chance they have. Then he notices movement in the Kanki HQ and the clans are all scrambling to get into the positions given to them by Kanki while yelling at each other to hurry up and get it right. Riboku's HQ sees this but has no idea what is happening at first. They then realize that the Kanki soldiers are putting themselves into a formation. At Kanki's HQ they confirm one by one that the clans are in their correct positions but when asked what this formation is Marron says he hasn't got a clue. Riboku's soldiers realize Kanki's using some sort of strategy but has no idea what it is because they've never seen or heard of a formation like what Kanki put together before.
No break next week!
Kanki Army:
Kokuou sees that the HSU and the Gakuka made it out on the left and now the only ones defending the HQ are the Heki army at the front and another family that moved to the right to cover that area. Ringyoku's soldiers ask him what they should do as he looks back at Kanki while the soldier is wondering why the boss is not doing anything.
Zhao:
Riboku's soldier asks him what Kanki's weakness is as Riboku watches the Zhao army steadily make their way forward.
Qin:
Heki's soldiers also notice that the HSU and the Gakuka are out and says they should do the same. Heki stops them however and says it'd be too irresponsible of them to leave their position as they are in the honorable position of the center army charged with holding back the enemy. Heki's soldiers look with worry and one of the mountain people says Heki is too naive. Another tribe member says that's not the case because it's because Heki is at the front risking his life that the time Kanki has to come up with a plan is being extended and that it's because of people like him that armies do not easily fall. He then says that a man like Heki is too valuable to lose. They then notice that the Heki army is past their limit and says what they should do now is to make sure Heki makes it out alive otherwise the chief of the Mera tribe will give them hell.
At Kanki's HQ they notice the Zhao has broken through the Heki army and are getting closer. Marron turns to Kanki begging him to make a move because they're all goners if they just sit there. Kanki says it's still fine and says to send the remaining few from the Northern army to the front and a panel shows Marron making a fuss about it.
Zhao:
Riboku's soldiers see that their army is steadily marching towards Kanki's HQ and wonders why they're not seeing any movement from Kanki's HQ. One soldier wonders if there's a purpose to him not moving and Riboku cuts in saying that it's because even if he wants to make a move Kanki simply cannot. Riboku then goes on to talk about Kanki's history of how he started his rise to fame 9 years ago serving under General Mougou in his battle with Renpa. In that battle they saw Kanki leave their HQ and take the head of Genpou. Then at the battle of Kankoku Pass they saw Kanki do the unthinkable and leave his position to take the head of the Han general after coming down. Then at Kokuyou Hills he beat Keisha and even got Kisui to leave to take Kokuyou Hills. Most recently, in the face of the Kochou army who outnumbered his army 3 to 1 he got to Kochou's HQ and took him out to win the battle as well.
Riboku then says that from these 4 battles there lies 1 common theme between all of them. A soldier deduces that it's the "surprise attack" and "unorthodox" and Riboku confirms it. He then continues saying that this also means Kanki has never won a battle in an orthodox way. His soldier says it was because all the situations required something special to turn the tables, especially that battle against Kochou. Riboku agrees but says the Kokuyou Hills battle was different. When the HSU pushed past the Zhao left wing and was in a favorable position to attack the Zhao Kanki did nothing despite how no matter which method of fighting he went with it would have been favorable for the Qin. Just like now, Kanki did nothing and let go of that amazing chance. A soldier says that led to Keisha moving down and getting taken out because of it in the end. Riboku replies that if Keisha chose to stay still and made use of the inaction then the Zhao would have won. No matter what he should have remained to defend the hill instead of going on the attack.
Riboku says that the inaction wasn't because Kanki knew this would happen but rather he didn't know what to do with the situation the HSU presented. Because Kanki has not won a single battle using orthodox methods he knows that Kanki simply just does not know how to fight using those tactics. Kanki was put into battle as soon as he was recruited with no chance to really learn the basics of battle after becoming one of Mougou's arms. Despite this he kept winning his battles and Riboku had no choice but to call him a genius and a monster. However, underneath all of that lies Kanki's weakness of not knowing how to fight other than using unorthodox methods.
As the soldiers stand in shock Riboku says this is why Kanki is unable to move right now. In this situation where he cannot pull any special move he simply doesn't know what to do. He then goes on to say that if there's anything to be careful of it's to make sure they don't make any big moves. In Kochou's case he was basically about to win but moved too far forward and because of that he lost his life. His soldiers asks if that's why Riboku hasn't moved generals like Bananji yet. Riboku says they will use the strength of their numbers to slowly take out the enemy and thru that situation where Kanki won't be able to do anything they will kill him as well.
Qin:
As the Zhao gets closer to Kanki's HQ the soldiers are freaking out telling Marron everything and Marron says he knows and assumes Kanki's still doing nothing but he looks back and realizes Kanki is just looking at the sky. Kanki chuckles then says he has orders to Marron. Marron asks who the orders are for and Kanki replies saying it's for every head of the clans that make up the Kanki army.
Zhao:
Riboku thinks to himself that they almost took out all the enemies who block their way to Kanki's HQ and thinks if Kanki's HQ is going to do anything now is the only chance they have. Then he notices movement in the Kanki HQ and the clans are all scrambling to get into the positions given to them by Kanki while yelling at each other to hurry up and get it right. Riboku's HQ sees this but has no idea what is happening at first. They then realize that the Kanki soldiers are putting themselves into a formation. At Kanki's HQ they confirm one by one that the clans are in their correct positions but when asked what this formation is Marron says he hasn't got a clue. Riboku's soldiers realize Kanki's using some sort of strategy but has no idea what it is because they've never seen or heard of a formation like what Kanki put together before.
No break next week!
