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So using a Qin 6 level person is fine, as long as they're your LT.? is that the logic you're using to justify your stance?
Riboku using a vastly inferior general in Houken for his strategies is a negative on Riboku, because the vastly inferior general is not Riboku's LT. However, Ouki using the vastly superior general Tou to take out leading officers of an army is completely fine.
Tou didn't save Ouki?? Bro really missed Bayou huh. Moubu & Tou are the primary reason Ouki was able to make his escape instead of dying in an army surrounded. Who knows how many other times, Ouki used Tou or got bailed out. We've only had 1 campaign of Ouki-Tou, in which Ouki used Tou to slay the head-commanding officer of the opposing army + then Tou comes in to rescue him.
you keep stating the samething over and over with "Riboku is cornered needed Houken to be saved", yet fail to point to a single relevant example of where that happened.
Duke Hyou vs Riboku? Nope, Houken was already there, Riboku didn't need any saving. If Houken wasn't there, Riboku either would've just fell back and made Duke pursure him into the Ryuudou more or would've changed the strategem. You keep making it seem like Riboku had no other way out.
Against Gekishin?? Nope, the entire plan was to low-diff Gekishin by overwhelming him with himself + Houken + Keisha.
Coalition?? Nope, mans didn't do jackshit except delay a retreat.
WZI? Nope, mans didn't do jackshit except delay Riboku's retreat.
So I ask, where is the "Houken saved Riboku" coming from? Give me the specific scenario where Riboku is cornered and saved by Houken. Where Houken coming in is not part of Riboku's plan. Where Riboku isn't luring mfs in by using Houken. The term "saved" implies that one is in risk of losing their life or battle...and in none of the situations that's the case.
PS: There is no such thing called "Riboku army" idk where you came up with that. He has his handful of vassals, that's about it. The entire army of Zhao was Riboku's army, that's what it means to be Chief of Military, a position higher than a mere general or Great General.
Houken is not Riboku's lieutenant.
Houken is a separate 3GH.
Riboku is not 'luring' his opponents to where houken is, that's not what's happening, but it's the opposite, houken is luring in his opponents using Riboku unintentionally, Since it's always like this.
-Riboku executes his plan.
-Thinks he has the enemy general beat with his plan
-his plan fails miserably
-he's under attack.
-houken interferes and saves him.
Unless his plan failing is part of his plan, then he's being saved by houken.
We saw how against kanki he was clowned so many times by kanki even though he had an overwhelming advantage, and since there was no houken, he nearly died if not for plot armor.
If that's how Ouki is using Tou then yeah, I'd say the same for Ouki aswell, but that was not the case. But mogou even though he's the boss of Ousen and Kanki he's still called mediocre and they're called geniuses. Because 'directing' houken by just having him there, isnt a skill even heki can do the same. mogou atleast had them as vice-generals, Houken is a different general so it's even worse for riboku.
A perfect example is:
heki is a general of an army and shin is also present. Heki devises a plan to defeat the enemy, his plan fails and gets countered and his HQ is in danger, shin wakes up from his sleep and moves to kill the enemy general that's attacking heki.
Who's the impressive one here? Heki or shin? Cause this is the fucking same shit that happens between Riboku and Houken.
Just like Renpa >>> Mogou even though the latter 'won', Ouki, Duke or even Gekishin > Riboku even though the latter 'won'.
and Moubu.
