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I feel like the term “Zionism” is a euphemism.
The idea that Palestine is the ancestral home of the Jews and that the Jews should merely return their isn’t inherently a bad idea.
Even the Palestinians didn’t care for those Jews that merely wanted to live in Palestine and coexist with the Arabs.
But I don’t believe that the ideology of Zionism is really about coexisting. No Zionism is just a euphemism for Jewish nationalism and Jewish supremacy, which I believe are both integral parts of the state of Israel.
The idea that Palestine is the ancestral home of the Jews and that the Jews should merely return their isn’t inherently a bad idea.
Even the Palestinians didn’t care for those Jews that merely wanted to live in Palestine and coexist with the Arabs.
But I don’t believe that the ideology of Zionism is really about coexisting. No Zionism is just a euphemism for Jewish nationalism and Jewish supremacy, which I believe are both integral parts of the state of Israel.
US lawmaker Brian Mast from Florida says there are no innocent Palestinian civilians. Asks not to throw around the word innocent easily and goes on to say, "innocent Nazi civilians"
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
US lawmaker Brian Mast from Florida says there are no innocent Palestinian civilians. Asks not to throw around the word innocent easily and goes on to say, "innocent Nazi civilians"
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
They vilified Kanye for speaking the truth for a reason
US lawmaker Brian Mast from Florida says there are no innocent Palestinian civilians. Asks not to throw around the word innocent easily and goes on to say, "innocent Nazi civilians"
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
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I know,i saw the news.The hospital stuff was probably to mess with the family.Fucking pigs.
US lawmaker Brian Mast from Florida says there are no innocent Palestinian civilians. Asks not to throw around the word innocent easily and goes on to say, "innocent Nazi civilians"
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzH9sQetbaI/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @Monkey D Theories
And, is it true? 👇
It is true that the American government supports Zionism, but that’s not simply due to Jews. America and the rest of the West have a legitimate interest in the state of Israel, as Israel is effectively an American/European colony.
jewishness is a loosely defined term and even different denominations of Judaism have different definitions for who is or isn’t a Jew. Some of those people might be practicing Jews, others might just have some Jewish ancestry, and even others have no connection to the Jewish people but are erroneously marked as Jewish by antisemites.
Lastly, it is true that Jews in America are disproportionately wealthier and more influential relative to their population. But they are still a very small minority. Even within said minority, there is a lot of differing opinions.
not much
most of the direct IDF stuff is also very low quality on purpose, can't see shit
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/6cebd287-684d-4abb-8695-a317f2e2ef2c
some cool pics tho:
lots of action in Jenin (west bank, the place with only civilians and no hamas :^))
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/dacd07a8-b632-49c7-9899-e62e28c8a9d7
most of the direct IDF stuff is also very low quality on purpose, can't see shit
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/6cebd287-684d-4abb-8695-a317f2e2ef2c
some cool pics tho:
lots of action in Jenin (west bank, the place with only civilians and no hamas :^))
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/dacd07a8-b632-49c7-9899-e62e28c8a9d7
I saw many Brazilian conservatives shitting on this guy because he finances abortion campaigns and other left wing agendas/protests.Are you familiar with the way he became a billionaire?He almost broke some bank in England.He found an easy way to make money,exploited it and cause a huge mess in England.
looking at their family names (like Cohen, Horowitz) and how some looks (the nose stereotype is real sometimes) the list itself is true (as the people in the pictures are jews) but what's the meme is insinuating, and the different people married to jews, the percentages, the hitler quote... lmao
A lot and I think most of the jews in American are Democrats, and a decent amount are far leftist that repeat stuff like "2 state solution" "free palestine" etc.
I used to believe these 4chan memes in the past.
Then I saw how horrible our "globalist george soros cabal" is controlling the narrative
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I've heard it's intentionally lowered in quality to not help the enemy
some before and afters
A lot and I think most of the jews in American are Democrats, and a decent amount are far leftist that repeat stuff like "2 state solution" "free palestine" etc.
I used to believe these 4chan memes in the past.
Then I saw how horrible our "globalist george soros cabal" is controlling the narrative
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I've heard it's intentionally lowered in quality to not help the enemy
some before and afters
As part of my conversion studies I read a big book on Jewish history.
From my understanding the people in the judenrat were in an impossible situation.
The nazis demanded that they hand over a certain amount of Jews to be sent to the camps. They couldn’t really refuse and did the bidding of the nazis so that way they wouldn’t kill even more Jews.
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Imo this stuff is just classical antisemitism repackaged.
basically accusing him of blood libel and trying to destroy the white race
shit Hitler said back in the day
From my understanding the people in the judenrat were in an impossible situation.
The nazis demanded that they hand over a certain amount of Jews to be sent to the camps. They couldn’t really refuse and did the bidding of the nazis so that way they wouldn’t kill even more Jews.
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Imo this stuff is just classical antisemitism repackaged.
basically accusing him of blood libel and trying to destroy the white race
shit Hitler said back in the day
Well colour me not shocked. Apartheid loving white South Africans was the model Zionists based their own version of Aparthied on.
The same white SA's who were pro-nazism and hitler, flipped the coin and went full pro-zionism. To the extent that when Aparthied fell in South Africa they started converting from Christianity to Judaism and then started settling in the West Bank, claiming their indigenous due to their religion and lmao you can't make this up "God given right" 🤣.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/06/southafrica.israel
Straight from the filthy dogs mouth. 🇮🇱 and apartheid South Africa are one and the same.
Meet the Holocaust survivor Reitzer. Was seconds away from getting gassed in the chambers but survived.
Moved to South Africa and Married. Does she live a good life without hate and or discrimination against others, after everything she's been through?
Let's shall we:
Reitzer is the most intelligent zionist of her time. Their very own Albert Einstein 👏🏾
The same white SA's who were pro-nazism and hitler, flipped the coin and went full pro-zionism. To the extent that when Aparthied fell in South Africa they started converting from Christianity to Judaism and then started settling in the West Bank, claiming their indigenous due to their religion and lmao you can't make this up "God given right" 🤣.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/06/southafrica.israel
Straight from the filthy dogs mouth. 🇮🇱 and apartheid South Africa are one and the same.
Meet the Holocaust survivor Reitzer. Was seconds away from getting gassed in the chambers but survived.
Moved to South Africa and Married. Does she live a good life without hate and or discrimination against others, after everything she's been through?
Let's shall we:
Reitzer saw no contradiction in surviving the Holocaust only to sign up for a system that was disturbingly reminiscent in its underpinning philosophy, if not in the scale of its crimes, as the one she had outlived. She vigorously defended apartheid as a necessary bulwark against black domination and the communism that engulfed her native Yugoslavia. Reitzer let slip that she thought Africans inferior to other human beings and not entitled to be treated as equals. I asked if Hitler hadn't said the same thing about her as a Jew. She called a halt to the conversation.
Reitzer was unusual among Jewish South Africans in her open enthusiasm for apartheid and for her membership of the NP. But she was an accepted member of the Jewish community in Johannesburg, working for the Holocaust survivors association, while Jews who fought the system were frequently ostracised by their own community.
Reitzer was unusual among Jewish South Africans in her open enthusiasm for apartheid and for her membership of the NP. But she was an accepted member of the Jewish community in Johannesburg, working for the Holocaust survivors association, while Jews who fought the system were frequently ostracised by their own community.
Reitzer is the most intelligent zionist of her time. Their very own Albert Einstein 👏🏾
Yeah idk about this one.
South Africa is a failing nation with the government being so corrupt that anyone who can leave is leaving.
Furthermore, orthodox conversion is an intense process. The process takes years and to successfully do it you need to follow extremely strict rules. Like kosherize your kitchen, obey Shabbat rules, etc. You also need to do immense study. Orthodox prayer books have very little English in them, you need to learn Hebrew to follow along.
Once you do all that and your rabbi thinks you are ready, you are then presented to a beit din, a Jewish court, and the court will determine if your conversion is valid or not.
While I’m sure there are some people who would convert to leave South Africa, I find it very hard to believe that this is happening in any significant numbers. And I don’t think there is any data to suggest significant conversion to Judaism amongst white South Africans.
I think people who are interested in Judaism just have a higher motivation to leave because South Africa is going to shit.
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Also not everyone who makes Aliyah becomes a settler. If someone feels a religious connection to israel and wants to move there, honestly buy property, and live in the land, imo there is nothing wrong with that.
The issue is the system that privileges Jews over all other groups, especially people who’ve been in the land for centuries.
South Africa is a failing nation with the government being so corrupt that anyone who can leave is leaving.
Furthermore, orthodox conversion is an intense process. The process takes years and to successfully do it you need to follow extremely strict rules. Like kosherize your kitchen, obey Shabbat rules, etc. You also need to do immense study. Orthodox prayer books have very little English in them, you need to learn Hebrew to follow along.
Once you do all that and your rabbi thinks you are ready, you are then presented to a beit din, a Jewish court, and the court will determine if your conversion is valid or not.
While I’m sure there are some people who would convert to leave South Africa, I find it very hard to believe that this is happening in any significant numbers. And I don’t think there is any data to suggest significant conversion to Judaism amongst white South Africans.
I think people who are interested in Judaism just have a higher motivation to leave because South Africa is going to shit.
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Also not everyone who makes Aliyah becomes a settler. If someone feels a religious connection to israel and wants to move there, honestly buy property, and live in the land, imo there is nothing wrong with that.
The issue is the system that privileges Jews over all other groups, especially people who’ve been in the land for centuries.
Doesn't matter if you don't know about it. It's documented and even directly quotes zionists and South African apartheid merchants in them articles I posted.
There's everyday people (like you) who might follow these long processes, the rich or influential politicians don't follow those same rules, i promise you that.
These articles isn't about today's failing south. They are about Aparthied South Africa at its height and all the way till its collapse. SA today is irrelevant and aren't pro-🇮🇱
There's everyday people (like you) who might follow these long processes, the rich or influential politicians don't follow those same rules, i promise you that.
These articles isn't about today's failing south. They are about Aparthied South Africa at its height and all the way till its collapse. SA today is irrelevant and aren't pro-🇮🇱
There are definitely big parallels between Israel and Apartheid south africa. Down to the way palestinian enclaves in the west bank are similar to the bantustans of south africa.
My only point was that I don't think that there is some sort of nefarious scheme by south africans to convert to judaism just so they can colonize palestine.
I'm not going to defend colonialism, those guys who settle in the west bank are most definitely engaging in it. But my only point is that I believe most of the people who do this sincerely believe that they are jews and are following a fundamentalist extreme version of judaism , rather than just converting to judaism for the sake of colonizing palestine.
Like I said, orthodox conversion is a serious process. And I don't think you can bribe your way in or anything. The rabbinate in israel is extremely conservative. These guys are as by the books as you get. There are certain religions that identify themselves as jewish, like Messianic judaism or the black hebrew israelite movement, that aren't aknowledged as jewish by the wider jewish community. These guys' conversions don't count.
Similarly, reform judaism, while being a recognized denomination of judaism by Israel as far as the law of return is concerned, is held to a different standard specifically because conversion to reform judaism isn't as rigorous as conversion to orthodox. Hence while I, a reform convert, could theoretically make aliyah and gain israeli citizenship, I wouldn't be classified as jewish in the state of israel's civil code.
Israel ultimately wants to create a theocratic ethnostate. They want people who are immigrating to be as jewish as possible. If you could just buy your way it would defeat the purpose of the law.
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In fact the israeli right wants to make immigration even more strict by demanding that only orthodox conversions, as opposed to the more lax conservative and reform conversions, are valid for law of return.
I just don't think they'd let anyone in. Even if they're white or have money.
My only point was that I don't think that there is some sort of nefarious scheme by south africans to convert to judaism just so they can colonize palestine.
I'm not going to defend colonialism, those guys who settle in the west bank are most definitely engaging in it. But my only point is that I believe most of the people who do this sincerely believe that they are jews and are following a fundamentalist extreme version of judaism , rather than just converting to judaism for the sake of colonizing palestine.
Like I said, orthodox conversion is a serious process. And I don't think you can bribe your way in or anything. The rabbinate in israel is extremely conservative. These guys are as by the books as you get. There are certain religions that identify themselves as jewish, like Messianic judaism or the black hebrew israelite movement, that aren't aknowledged as jewish by the wider jewish community. These guys' conversions don't count.
Similarly, reform judaism, while being a recognized denomination of judaism by Israel as far as the law of return is concerned, is held to a different standard specifically because conversion to reform judaism isn't as rigorous as conversion to orthodox. Hence while I, a reform convert, could theoretically make aliyah and gain israeli citizenship, I wouldn't be classified as jewish in the state of israel's civil code.
Israel ultimately wants to create a theocratic ethnostate. They want people who are immigrating to be as jewish as possible. If you could just buy your way it would defeat the purpose of the law.
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In fact the israeli right wants to make immigration even more strict by demanding that only orthodox conversions, as opposed to the more lax conservative and reform conversions, are valid for law of return.
I just don't think they'd let anyone in. Even if they're white or have money.