Dude,that guy wants attention and approval.He doesn't care about reality.He is just delusional.Don't let his BS annoy you.
He doesn't understand. He is part of the very self-same people who cause people like me to go through this shit. To ruin their bodies, minds, years of their life because of psuedo-scientific bullshit and reinforcement through love and affection that is then stolen away the moment you tell them no. There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.
 
He doesn't understand. He is the very self-same people who causes people like me to go through this shit. To ruin their bodies, minds, years of their life because of psuedo-scientific bullshit and reinforcement through love and affection that is then stolen away the moment you tell them no. There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.
As i said,he doesn't really care about people.He wants to virtual signal and get praised for it.If he is actually doing any good or not is not something he gets concerned about.Just ignore him.Don't feed his BS.Just look at his messages and like counts,nobody takes this moron seriously.
 
As i said,he doesn't really care about people.He wants to virtual signal and get praised for it.If he is actually doing any good or not is not something he gets concerned about.Just ignore him.Don't feed his BS.Just look at his messages and like counts,nobody takes this moron seriously.
Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.
 
I wouldnt trust any scientists that claim there are more than two genders. btw there are languages where such word doesnt even exist, or didint exist before
"I wouldn't trust a scientist that say... " said the platist.


I find it disgusting you would insinuate such.
Dude, you are being BIGOTED as F. So asking for your background is a legitimate question, i'm not denying you identity compared to what you are doing to Enby and trans people. if overnight you changed gender while having transitionned then that's your reality, and its sad. But it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people

so you might see that I am not some kind of bigot
You are. By denying the identity of others, you ARE being a bigot. Now either you accept it, or change your behavior and start being a little bit more accepting of others.


But it's through an intimate EXPERIENCE of being trans that I know something you don't -- and likely never will.
You are right, I never will, that's why I ask, but I do know that you don't represent trans in general and in GENERAL and MAJORITY trans people who transition are HAPPY to do so. You are not the world.


Detransitioners are fucking real. I no longer identify as female, but I did for 8 whole years.
Then its sad, but again, it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people. Is that clear ?

he sais there are gender scientists lmao
Sociologists are often doing research about gender yea.


There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.
And there is nothing worse that a far rightist thinking that they represent the world.


years of deprogramming.
Wow.. okay.. sounds like anti gay camps. When you force someone to accept something they are not.

Question, what was the first clue that made you rethink you identity ? I'm asking out of pure curiosity, you are not obligated to reply.

As i said,he doesn't really care about people.
The famous accusatory inversion of the far right "you actually don't care about people, you just care about virtue signaling". Fun fact, the far right is actually the one doing that. So here is a mirror:


I care about people, but I won't have a lot a pity for bigoted ones. I'm not the representation of virtue here, I can hate you if I want to. You are lucky, i'm not hating you guys.

Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.
Ow, poor soul, I hurt you ? You are babbling all day your far right conservative propaganda and constantly denying the identity of others. Sorry not sorry.

I don't owe you respect, especially when you are being so despicable toward a community you once belonged to.
 
By years of deprogramming, I meant reading, researching AND learning about the world.

I'm done being civil. So allow me to treat you as you treat me, for one brief moment. You need help, Logiko. I try to be delicate, but as others have said, there is a reason people do not take you seriously. You have a reality you believe, and you are not open to anything outside that reality. You reinforce it with studies that suit your narrative. You push away ANYONE who disagrees with terms like bigot, -phobe, etc, to ensure that they are EVIL in your eyes.

Did you not listen, of course not. I was happy. I really was. But then I wasn't. Because, Logiko, this will be the thing you may never understand. A dream is just a dream. No matter how much you reinforce it. No matter how much you change your body. No matter how good you are at makeup and wearing heels and posing and speaking and presenting. You cannot escape reality. It will catch you. You will hear it. The doubts will come.

And when they kill themselves, you know what people say? "Poor (x) society is so cruel and transphobic."

Do you want to know what started my journey back? A good friend of mine killed themselves because of the same thing. I got to see their note. I found the body.

They had gender affirming surgery. NOBODY knew they were trans but me.

"I came to realise I would never be a woman, no matter how much a tried."

My heart broke. And it's fucking true. It wasn't the world that made him kill himself. It was that he couldn't cope with what he did to himself. I realised I needed to think. So I looked inwards. I looked for why I felt this way. I found an answer you won't be able to understand, so I won't go into such thoughts here.

But what I did know was... it didn't matter how happy I was, because many people just like me went the same way. So I strengthened my mind. I worked on me. I learned skills. I embraced my loved ones. I stopped rejecting reality.

And now -- I'm actually fucking happy.
I doubt this guy acts like this irl.He would get in fist fights very easily.I'm sorry about what happened to you and your friend.Hope you doing good now.
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Dude, you are being BIGOTED as F. So asking for your background is a legitimate question, i'm not denying you identity compared to what you are doing to Enby and trans people. if overnight you changed gender while having transitionned then that's your reality, and its sad. But it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people


You are. By denying the identity of others, you ARE being a bigot. Now either you accept it, or change your behavior and start being a little bit more accepting of others.



You are right, I never will, that's why I ask, but I do know that you don't represent trans in general and in GENERAL and MAJORITY trans people who transition are HAPPY to do so. You are not the world.



Then its sad, but again, it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people. Is that clear ?


Sociologists are often doing research about gender yea.



And there is nothing worse that a far rightist thinking that they represent the world.



Wow.. okay.. sounds like anti gay camps. When you force someone to accept something they are not.

Question, what was the first clue that made you rethink you identity ? I'm asking out of pure curiosity, you are not obligated to reply.


The famous accusatory inversion of the far right "you actually don't care about people, you just care about virtue signaling". Fun fact, the far right is actually the one doing that. So here is a mirror:


I care about people, but I won't have a lot a pity for bigoted ones. I'm not the representation of virtue here, I can hate you if I want to. You are lucky, i'm not hating you guys.


Ow, poor soul, I hurt you ? You are babbling all day your far right conservative propaganda and constantly denying the identity of others. Sorry not sorry.

I don't owe you respect, especially when you are being so despicable toward a community you once belonged to.
You need a doctor,son.You are 34,yet you act 13.You are a sad sight.
 
I doubt this guy acts like this irl.He would get in fist fights very easily.I'm sorry about what happened to you and your friend.Hope you doing good now.
I am. Once I broke the cycle of escape and learned to accept that I could live life as a man, that I didn't have to be scared of life and have to have a constant shield... I came to.

I now have a long-term job. Responsibilities. A budding family. A house. The dream. And that... that was only possible when I broke out of the nightmare.
 
I am. Once I broke the cycle of escape and learned to accept that I could live life as a man, that I didn't have to be scared of life and have to have a constant shield... I came to.

I now have a long-term job. Responsibilities. A budding family. A house. The dream. And that... that was only possible when I broke out of the nightmare.
You are a true survivor.No many people break free from this like you did.congrats:cheers:
 
You need help, Logiko
Ow.. Psychophobia. Sweet.

You have a reality you believe, and you are not open to anything outside that reality
I'm so unbelievably close minded that in the span of a few years I went from spitting complotist far right antisemistic/islamophobic and ignorant ideas, to learning about science, scepticism and becoming a leftist militant who would fight to death for the respect of all religious people and LGBTQ+ people. But I'm sure the one who continue all day to babble far right rethoric without selfquestionning is right about me being "not open to anything outside that reality"..

:kailaugh::lawsigh:

The reason I have the forum against me is not that I'm not open to discussion, is because I'm bringing a new antisystemic way of thinking the forum and toxicity and I do that without giving up one bit.


You reinforce it with studies that suit your narrative
I think you are talking about yourself here. I'll gladly change my point of view if you show me coherent studies.


You push away ANYONE who disagrees with terms like bigot
No, there is a lot of people here I don't agree with, I won't call them bigoted because of that. I call you bigoted because you are saying bigoted things, like denying the identity of others. Start to take responsibility for what you are saying.


A dream is just a dream
Why are you talking about dream, we are talking about identity, something we can't control.


And when they kill themselves
Usually, trans are killing themself because there are people like you who are denying their identity. Of course we need to take into account the detransitionner and understand more the issue, but you are a minority, I'm sorry.


"I came to realise I would never be a woman, no matter how much a tried."
This is sad indeed. But this is the mindset of a person in distress that needs help (a sign of depression here), its not representative of a problem with transidentity. And in a society that deny the identity of people like you are doing it right now, people like your friend who transitionned will feel like they are not worthy and logically have doubt about themself.


It wasn't the world that made him kill himself. It was that he couldn't cope with what he did to himself
What makes you think that it wasn't the world mate ? Why are you denying the responsibility of the society and the transphobia in a process of dehumanization and denial of identity of someone. The world is reponsible for your friend's death, not the transition. We are responsible for not accepting your friend and making her feel like she would never be a real woman.
Because gender is not about something you must reach, its about a box that society has created.

You found an answer, but don't you dare think that this is the answer for transidentity in general.


But what I did know was... it didn't matter how happy I was, because many people just like me went the same way. So I strengthened my mind. I worked on me. I learned skills. I embraced my loved ones. I stopped rejecting reality.
That's called confirmation bias, the exact same thing you are accusing me of being a victim of.


And now -- I'm actually fucking happy.
And good for you, but being happy that way doesn't mean others can't be happy another way, so respect them.


He would get in fist fights very easily.
You think I'm being violent here ? I'm only showing you a mirror guys. I'm being actually very calm.


You need a doctor,son.You are 34,yet you act 13.You are a sad sight.
oh.. Psychophobia again. And I'm the one vertue signaling.. You don't even understand how violent your statements are :/

I now have a long-term job. Responsibilities. A budding family. A house. The dream. And that... that was only possible when I broke out of the nightmare.
Good, But don't deny the joy of others.


@AL sama?
This thread should be about politics.
Transphobia in society is an highly political subject. Don't try to get out of context here.
 
I never met anyone who was afraid of trans people, they arent really strongest of humans
THe day you will understand that X-phobia doesn't necessarally means the fear of X but first and foremost the act of being oppressive in a direct or indirect way toward X will be a huge leap forward..
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
THe day you will understand that X-phobia doesn't necessarally means the fear of X but first and foremost the act of being oppressive in a direct or indirect way toward X will be a huge leap forward..
let trans people live there lives , and dont get into normal people faces and annoy us with there bullshit everywhere, we are tired of there attention seeking
 
Ow.. Psychophobia. Sweet.


I'm so unbelievably close minded that in the span of a few years I went from spitting complotist far right antisemistic/islamophobic and ignorant ideas, to learning about science, scepticism and becoming a leftist militant who would fight to death for the respect of all religious people and LGBTQ+ people. But I'm sure the one who continue all day to babble far right rethoric without selfquestionning is right about me being "not open to anything outside that reality"..

:kailaugh::lawsigh:

The reason I have the forum against me is not that I'm not open to discussion, is because I'm bringing a new antisystemic way of thinking the forum and toxicity and I do that without giving up one bit.



I think you are talking about yourself here. I'll gladly change my point of view if you show me coherent studies.



No, there is a lot of people here I don't agree with, I won't call them bigoted because of that. I call you bigoted because you are saying bigoted things, like denying the identity of others. Start to take responsibility for what you are saying.



Why are you talking about dream, we are talking about identity, something we can't control.



Usually, trans are killing themself because there are people like you who are denying their identity. Of course we need to take into account the detransitionner and understand more the issue, but you are a minority, I'm sorry.



This is sad indeed. But this is the mindset of a person in distress that needs help (a sign of depression here), its not representative of a problem with transidentity. And in a society that deny the identity of people like you are doing it right now, people like your friend who transitionned will feel like they are not worthy and logically have doubt about themself.



What makes you think that it wasn't the world mate ? Why are you denying the responsibility of the society and the transphobia in a process of dehumanization and denial of identity of someone. The world is reponsible for your friend's death, not the transition. We are responsible for not accepting your friend and making her feel like she would never be a real woman.
Because gender is not about something you must reach, its about a box that society has created.

You found an answer, but don't you dare think that this is the answer for transidentity in general.



That's called confirmation bias, the exact same thing you are accusing me of being a victim of.



And good for you, but being happy that way doesn't mean others can't be happy another way, so respect them.



You think I'm being violent here ? I'm only showing you a mirror guys. I'm being actually very calm.



oh.. Psychophobia again. And I'm the one vertue signaling.. You don't even understand how violent your statements are :/


Good, But don't deny the joy of others.



Transphobia in society is an highly political subject. Don't try to get out of context here.
The fact that you can read my story and blame the world is proof that you don't listen.
Goodbye. I'm done with you.

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18
 
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