Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Don’t you think it’s a bit transphobic to condescendingly act like @Okamakama didn’t know what he

Looking at how he act toward trans and speak, this was a legitimate question. The guy is bigoted like hell, it was totally plausible that he actually didn't understand what "trans" means and that he can come from forced transitionning.

Furthemore, I've never heard about a trans people who stopped identifying as the opposite gender during their life although I might lack the ressources, hence why I asked if he were identifying as the opposite gender assign at birth then and now.

COntrary to him, I'm not denying his identity

 

[Zolo]

Guess you will have to tell that to scientists who are working on gender. I'm sure you are so much brighter than them..

gender scientists, I claim one myself its so easy babies can do it, there are only two

 

[Logiko]

gender scientists, I claim one myself its so easy babies can do it, there are only two

Sure Einstein

 

[Zolo]

Sure Einstein

I wouldnt trust any scientists that claim there are more than two genders. btw there are languages where such word doesnt even exist, or didint exist before

 

[Okamakama]

Looking at how he act toward trans and speak, this was a legitimate question. The guy is bigoted like hell, it was totally plausible that he actually didn't understand what "trans" means and that he can come from forced transitionning.

Furthemore, I've never heard about a trans people who stopped identifying as the opposite gender during their life although I might lack the ressources, hence why I asked if he were identifying as the opposite gender assign at birth then and now.

I find it disgusting you would insinuate such. You know not my life, nor my circumstances. I offered you the chance at dialogue in a real call so you might see that I am not some kind of bigot. I did know what trans was. I still do. But it's through an intimate EXPERIENCE of being trans that I know something you don't -- and likely never will.

There is an entire community of people like me in the UK. Research me. Research US. Detransitioners are fucking real. I no longer identify as female, but I did for 8 whole years.
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@Logiko

Don’t you think it’s a bit transphobic to condescendingly act like @Okamakama didn’t know what he(hope this is the right pronoun) was doing when he transitioned ?

Thank you bro.
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So overnight, you weren't identitifying as the opposite gender anymore ?

For the record it was a process of years of deprogramming. Of deep psychological change. If you ever want to -listen- like you claim you do, you'll know where to find me.

 

[NAMELESS]

I find it disgusting you would insinuate such. You know not my life, nor my circumstances. I offered you the chance at dialogue in a real call so you might see that I am not some kind of bigot. I did know what trans was. I still do. But it's through an intimate EXPERIENCE of being trans that I know something you don't -- and likely never will.

There is an entire community of people like me in the UK. Research me. Research US. Detransitioners are fucking real. I no longer identify as female, but I did for 8 whole years.
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Thank you bro.

Dude,that guy wants attention and approval.He doesn't care about reality.He is just delusional.Don't let his BS annoy you.

 

[Okamakama]

Dude,that guy wants attention and approval.He doesn't care about reality.He is just delusional.Don't let his BS annoy you.

He doesn't understand. He is part of the very self-same people who cause people like me to go through this shit. To ruin their bodies, minds, years of their life because of psuedo-scientific bullshit and reinforcement through love and affection that is then stolen away the moment you tell them no. There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.

 

[Zolo]

Dude,that guy wants attention and approval.He doesn't care about reality.He is just delusional.Don't let his BS annoy you.

he sais there are gender scientists lmao

 

[NAMELESS]

He doesn't understand. He is the very self-same people who causes people like me to go through this shit. To ruin their bodies, minds, years of their life because of psuedo-scientific bullshit and reinforcement through love and affection that is then stolen away the moment you tell them no. There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.

As i said,he doesn't really care about people.He wants to virtual signal and get praised for it.If he is actually doing any good or not is not something he gets concerned about.Just ignore him.Don't feed his BS.Just look at his messages and like counts,nobody takes this moron seriously.

 

[Okamakama]

As i said,he doesn't really care about people.He wants to virtual signal and get praised for it.If he is actually doing any good or not is not something he gets concerned about.Just ignore him.Don't feed his BS.Just look at his messages and like counts,nobody takes this moron seriously.

Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.

 

[Zolo]

Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.

they dont care about that they only care about virtue points

 

[NAMELESS]

Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.

He is not the type to care imo.Have peace of mind.Nobody here takes him seriously.Only a handful of troll instigate his stuff.

 

[Logiko]

I wouldnt trust any scientists that claim there are more than two genders. btw there are languages where such word doesnt even exist, or didint exist before

"I wouldn't trust a scientist that say... " said the platist.

I find it disgusting you would insinuate such.

Dude, you are being BIGOTED as F. So asking for your background is a legitimate question, i'm not denying you identity compared to what you are doing to Enby and trans people. if overnight you changed gender while having transitionned then that's your reality, and its sad. But it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people

so you might see that I am not some kind of bigot

You are. By denying the identity of others, you ARE being a bigot. Now either you accept it, or change your behavior and start being a little bit more accepting of others.

But it's through an intimate EXPERIENCE of being trans that I know something you don't -- and likely never will.

You are right, I never will, that's why I ask, but I do know that you don't represent trans in general and in GENERAL and MAJORITY trans people who transition are HAPPY to do so. You are not the world.

Detransitioners are fucking real. I no longer identify as female, but I did for 8 whole years.

Then its sad, but again, it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people. Is that clear ?

he sais there are gender scientists lmao

Sociologists are often doing research about gender yea.

There is nothing MORE vindictive and cruel than a Leftist with good intentions.

And there is nothing worse that a far rightist thinking that they represent the world.

years of deprogramming.

Wow.. okay.. sounds like anti gay camps. When you force someone to accept something they are not.

Question, what was the first clue that made you rethink you identity ? I'm asking out of pure curiosity, you are not obligated to reply.

As i said,he doesn't really care about people.

The famous accusatory inversion of the far right "you actually don't care about people, you just care about virtue signaling". Fun fact, the far right is actually the one doing that. So here is a mirror:

I care about people, but I won't have a lot a pity for bigoted ones. I'm not the representation of virtue here, I can hate you if I want to. You are lucky, i'm not hating you guys.

Yes, but I know his issues. Maybe, just maybe, he can actually learn that he could be hurting people. That he might be getting misled. I care for the vulnerable. I worked with them. Cared for them. I can't fucking stand seeing this, bro.

Ow, poor soul, I hurt you ? You are babbling all day your far right conservative propaganda and constantly denying the identity of others. Sorry not sorry.

I don't owe you respect, especially when you are being so despicable toward a community you once belonged to.

 

[NAMELESS]

By years of deprogramming, I meant reading, researching AND learning about the world.

I'm done being civil. So allow me to treat you as you treat me, for one brief moment. You need help, Logiko. I try to be delicate, but as others have said, there is a reason people do not take you seriously. You have a reality you believe, and you are not open to anything outside that reality. You reinforce it with studies that suit your narrative. You push away ANYONE who disagrees with terms like bigot, -phobe, etc, to ensure that they are EVIL in your eyes.

Did you not listen, of course not. I was happy. I really was. But then I wasn't. Because, Logiko, this will be the thing you may never understand. A dream is just a dream. No matter how much you reinforce it. No matter how much you change your body. No matter how good you are at makeup and wearing heels and posing and speaking and presenting. You cannot escape reality. It will catch you. You will hear it. The doubts will come.

And when they kill themselves, you know what people say? "Poor (x) society is so cruel and transphobic."

Do you want to know what started my journey back? A good friend of mine killed themselves because of the same thing. I got to see their note. I found the body.

They had gender affirming surgery. NOBODY knew they were trans but me.

"I came to realise I would never be a woman, no matter how much a tried."

My heart broke. And it's fucking true. It wasn't the world that made him kill himself. It was that he couldn't cope with what he did to himself. I realised I needed to think. So I looked inwards. I looked for why I felt this way. I found an answer you won't be able to understand, so I won't go into such thoughts here.

But what I did know was... it didn't matter how happy I was, because many people just like me went the same way. So I strengthened my mind. I worked on me. I learned skills. I embraced my loved ones. I stopped rejecting reality.

And now -- I'm actually fucking happy.

I doubt this guy acts like this irl.He would get in fist fights very easily.I'm sorry about what happened to you and your friend.Hope you doing good now.
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"I wouldn't trust a scientist that say... " said the platist.



Dude, you are being BIGOTED as F. So asking for your background is a legitimate question, i'm not denying you identity compared to what you are doing to Enby and trans people. if overnight you changed gender while having transitionned then that's your reality, and its sad. But it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people


You are. By denying the identity of others, you ARE being a bigot. Now either you accept it, or change your behavior and start being a little bit more accepting of others.



You are right, I never will, that's why I ask, but I do know that you don't represent trans in general and in GENERAL and MAJORITY trans people who transition are HAPPY to do so. You are not the world.



Then its sad, but again, it doesn't give you the right to be bigoted toward other people. Is that clear ?


Sociologists are often doing research about gender yea.



And there is nothing worse that a far rightist thinking that they represent the world.



Wow.. okay.. sounds like anti gay camps. When you force someone to accept something they are not.

Question, what was the first clue that made you rethink you identity ? I'm asking out of pure curiosity, you are not obligated to reply.


The famous accusatory inversion of the far right "you actually don't care about people, you just care about virtue signaling". Fun fact, the far right is actually the one doing that. So here is a mirror:

I care about people, but I won't have a lot a pity for bigoted ones. I'm not the representation of virtue here, I can hate you if I want to. You are lucky, i'm not hating you guys.


Ow, poor soul, I hurt you ? You are babbling all day your far right conservative propaganda and constantly denying the identity of others. Sorry not sorry.

I don't owe you respect, especially when you are being so despicable toward a community you once belonged to.

You need a doctor,son.You are 34,yet you act 13.You are a sad sight.

 

[Okamakama]

I doubt this guy acts like this irl.He would get in fist fights very easily.I'm sorry about what happened to you and your friend.Hope you doing good now.

I am. Once I broke the cycle of escape and learned to accept that I could live life as a man, that I didn't have to be scared of life and have to have a constant shield... I came to.

I now have a long-term job. Responsibilities. A budding family. A house. The dream. And that... that was only possible when I broke out of the nightmare.

 

[NAMELESS]

I am. Once I broke the cycle of escape and learned to accept that I could live life as a man, that I didn't have to be scared of life and have to have a constant shield... I came to.

I now have a long-term job. Responsibilities. A budding family. A house. The dream. And that... that was only possible when I broke out of the nightmare.

You are a true survivor.No many people break free from this like you did.congrats:cheers:

 

[Okamakama]

You are a true survivor.No many people break free from this like you did.congrats:cheers:

 

[Zolo]

based

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

C4N is being off topic again talking about his made up battle.
He made a thread to talk about this insignificant and irrelevant topic, can he not be contained there
@AL sama?
This thread should be about politics.

 

[Zolo]

C4N is being off topic again talking about his made up battle.
He made a thread to talk about this insignificant and irrelevant topic, can he not be contained there
@AL sama?
This thread should be about politics.

Russia is winning the war