And one of worst places in West is still better than most places outside West
I understand your point. Their citizens worship liberty above all and in all of their history, they haven’t met the ultimate criteria to be a dictatorship. It’s a shithole for lots of reasons but democracy is still better than authoritarian regimes.

Anyway, I don’t get where it’s supposed to lead us though. A few days ago you were arguing in favour of global US interventions against communism (which they also did against socialism). Now in favour of US intervention in the Middle East. What’s next ?
 
I understand your point. Their citizens worship liberty above all and in all of their history, they haven’t met the ultimate criteria to be a dictatorship. It’s a shithole for lots of reasons but democracy is still better than authoritarian regimes.
Not so much about liberty only. Life standard overall, access of food, clean water, power and fuel, infrastructure, economy and so on. No matter how shitty you can think USA is i bet you would rather live there than Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan and so on.

What needs to be done shall be done.

Russia showed her true colours, China openly send Muslims to concertation camps while supressing any democratic revolt in Hong Kong, Iran killed a girl because she didn't wanna wear a burqa and the list goes on.

Once again, call USA shit all you want, but I will pick USA any day of the week as police of the world rather than any of the above
 
Not so much about liberty only. Life standard overall, access of food, clean water, power and fuel, infrastructure, economy and so on. No matter how shitty you can think USA is i bet you would rather live there than Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan and so on.


What needs to be done shall be done.

Russia showed her true colours, China openly send Muslims to concertation camps while supressing any democratic revolt in Hong Kong, Iran killed a girl because she didn't wanna wear a burqa and the list goes on.

Once again, call USA shit all you want, but I will pick USA any day of the week as police of the world rather than any of the above
I mean you’re just saying « worse democracies are still better than any dictatorship ». Which is fine I guess but not relevant.

Foreign intervention to counter attack potential threats is an interesting topic though
 
No matter how shitty you can think USA is i bet you would rather live there than Ethiopia, Yemen, Afghanistan and so on.
=countries that the west incl. USA intentionally ruined
Once again, call USA shit all you want, but I will pick USA any day of the week as police of the world rather than any of the above
What about not having a world police?
It is relevant. Subject was USA being police of the world. So let's say USA stops doing that, the void will be filled by any of those nations. So in that sense even broken USA is better than Russia, China and so on
Srce moje are you drunk again?
 
Lmao kiddo read some world history. The shit going on today is not even 1/10th of 1% of the stuff that's happened in the past when there was no world police.

America becoming world police is the best thing that's ever happened to the world.
This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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Imagine being a Muricatard as a European
So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.
 
This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.
Dead iraqis dont count.
Dead ukraine citizen dont count.
Ukraine bombing german energetic infrastructure dont counts.
Deaths in thw gulf, in vietnam, wars by proxy.
For USA fans these don't count, because without them there would worse.
Well men, this is your opinion.
Tell that to ukraine forced to fight the american proxy war.
Tell that to Cubans in a 60 years embargo, akin to usa's biggest ally apartheid state.
 
Dead iraqis dont count.
Dead ukraine citizen dont count.
Ukraine bombing german energetic infrastructure dont counts.
Deaths in thw gulf, in vietnam, wars by proxy.
For USA fans these don't count, because without them there would worse.
Well men, this is your opinion.
Tell that to ukraine forced to fight the american proxy war.
Tell that to Cubans in a 60 years embargo, akin to usa's biggest ally apartheid state.
Embargo does very little to Cuban economy.Cuba does trade with most of the world.They live in misery thnx to the soviet style regime there,not american's fault.
 
The more a culture evolves the crazier and more extreme it becomes.
One thing that I agree with is that the world need an arbiter. A superpower that is actually committed to democracy and respects international law (to a reasonable extent) But that's never gonna happen as long as governments and private interests supersede the greater good just to satisfy their short term political and monetary goals.
 
This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.
Iraqis confirmed dead was 100k which is terrible but it doesnt compare to WW1, WW2, the Middle Ages, etc... where tens of millions died.

And also ask yourself how many people Saddam killed in Iran, Kuwait, etc...
 
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