Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

Lmao kiddo read some world history. The shit going on today is not even 1/10th of 1% of the stuff that's happened in the past when there was no world police.

America becoming world police is the best thing that's ever happened to the world.

This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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Imagine being a Muricatard as a European

So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.

Dead iraqis dont count.
Dead ukraine citizen dont count.
Ukraine bombing german energetic infrastructure dont counts.
Deaths in thw gulf, in vietnam, wars by proxy.
For USA fans these don't count, because without them there would worse.
Well men, this is your opinion.
Tell that to ukraine forced to fight the american proxy war.
Tell that to Cubans in a 60 years embargo, akin to usa's biggest ally apartheid state.

 

[NAMELESS]

Dead iraqis dont count.
Dead ukraine citizen dont count.
Ukraine bombing german energetic infrastructure dont counts.
Deaths in thw gulf, in vietnam, wars by proxy.
For USA fans these don't count, because without them there would worse.
Well men, this is your opinion.
Tell that to ukraine forced to fight the american proxy war.
Tell that to Cubans in a 60 years embargo, akin to usa's biggest ally apartheid state.

Embargo does very little to Cuban economy.Cuba does trade with most of the world.They live in misery thnx to the soviet style regime there,not american's fault.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The more a culture evolves the crazier and more extreme it becomes.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

The more a culture evolves the crazier and more extreme it becomes.

One thing that I agree with is that the world need an arbiter. A superpower that is actually committed to democracy and respects international law (to a reasonable extent) But that's never gonna happen as long as governments and private interests supersede the greater good just to satisfy their short term political and monetary goals.

 

[sanjikun]

This is stupid beyond reason. Tell that to the 1 million dead Iraqis that died after 911.
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So many wannabe Americans on this thread. Little do they know America doesn't give a shit about them. If it was ever profitable or politically convenient for America to bomb Europe, we would do it on a daily basis.

Iraqis confirmed dead was 100k which is terrible but it doesnt compare to WW1, WW2, the Middle Ages, etc... where tens of millions died.

And also ask yourself how many people Saddam killed in Iran, Kuwait, etc...

 

[NAMELESS]

One thing that I agree with is that the world need an arbiter. A superpower that is actually committed to democracy and respects international law (to a reasonable extent) But that's never gonna happen as long as governments and private interests supersede the greater good just to satisfy their short term political and monetary goals.

Ideally,each continent would have a couple of superpowers to balance things out.Concentration of power leads to abuse,the more decentralized power is,the better.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Iraqis confirmed dead was 100k which is terrible but it doesnt compare to WW1, WW2, the Middle Ages, etc... where tens of millions died.

And also ask yourself how many people Saddam killed in Iran, Kuwait, etc...

The civilian death count since the invasion is around half a million. You just a big fan of killing innocents aren't you?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

But that's never gonna happen as long as governments and private interests supersede the greater good just to satisfy their short term political and monetary goals.

Just like it has always been. Forcing everyone to coexist won't yield the desired results, globalisation itself makes it much harder.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Just like it has always been. Forcing everyone to coexist won't yield the desired results, globalisation itself makes it much harder.

globalization is as nuanced as it gets. It has very clear advantages and massive benefits but it also destroys local industries and fucks a lot of people over.

 

[Roo]

America being the world police is inarguably a lot more good than bad in a world where China and Russia exist.

Do I support the Iraq war? Fuck no. But let’s not act like Saddam wasnt genociding the Kurds on his land. Or also the fact that Saddam had no qualms with threatening his neighbors for constant wars

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

America being the world police is inarguably a lot more good than bad in a world where China and Russia exist.

Do I support the Iraq war? Fuck no. But let’s not act like Saddam wasnt genociding the Kurds on his land. Or also the fact that Saddam had no qualms with threatening his neighbors for constant wars

USA has been at war with more states that Russia since the cold war.
More than Cina.
While being in idylliac relationship with the western world.
Such a paragon of virtue.

 

[Roo]

USA has been at war with more states that Russia since the cold war.
More than Cina.
While being in idylliac relationship with the western world.
Such a paragon of virtue.

Name the regions America invaded to annex? Because I can name the few for Russia, and a few that China wishes it could

Your comment is a self fulfilling prophecy. US gets in Wars because it is the world police. China and Russia try to avoid wars with U.S allies because the U.S exist

 

[Toby D. Dog]

US gets in Wars because it is the world police

This is an excruciating way to oversimplify the reason as to why we do what we do. If you think the reason we invade and go to war with other nations half a world away is because we're altruistic and we believe in democracy then I got a bridge to sell you.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Name the regions America invaded to annex? Because I can name the few for Russia, and a few that China wishes it could

Your comment is a self fulfilling prophecy. US gets in Wars because it is the world police. China and Russia try to avoid wars with U.S allies because the U.S exist

Wow, nice policing in Vietnam, Iraq oil run, a war to fight enemies you created in Afghanistan.
Truly a paragon of virtue!
Like financing repression in cuba under Batista, or spying on your allies ike Obama used to do.
Or destabilising half of south america! Or subsidising wara through Ukraine!
But to answer your question, judt look at NATO, and that is just America annexing europe.
Just count how mani US bases are in europe and how many europe in US, and it will show you an europe occupied by us.

 

[Roo]

This is an excruciating way to oversimplify the reason as to why we do what we do. If you think the reason we invade and go to war with other nations half a world away is because we're altruistic and we believe in democracy then I got a bridge to sell you.

Altruistic? No. The world police gets involved because it’s in the best interest of its allies and itself.

I did say it does more good than bad, that is literally saying America does bad things at times. I’m not a blind stan

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Altruistic? No. The world police gets involved because it’s in the best interest of its allies and itself.

I did say it does more good than bad, that is literally saying America does bad things at times. I’m not a blind stan

The job of police is not what you describe.
Going at war for the gaim of you and your allies neither.
Because it can justify anything in your name.

 

[Roo]

Wow, nice policing in Vietnam, Iraq oil run, a war to fight enemies you created in Afghanistan.

bruh everytime you quote me you always trying to drown the arguments with irrelevant shit.

Vietnam was during the Cold War, not after

I already said Iraq was a mistake.

We literally funded Afghanistan to fight an invading force lmao. Should we just have let them get fucked over by Russia?

Like financing repression in cuba under Batista, or spying on your allies ike Obama used to do.
Or destabilising half of south america! Or subsidising wara through Ukraine!
But to answer your question, judt look at NATO, and that is just America annexing europe.
Just count how mani US bases are in europe and how many europe in US, and it will show you an europe occupied by us.

LMAO YOURE A RUSSIA SIMP, it all makes sense now
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The job of police is not what you describe.
Going at war for the gaim of you and your allies neither.
Because it can justify anything in your name.

The job of the police is to enforce the laws, U.S enforces its hegemony.

but if you want to call them “World’s Bodyguards” that’s fine by me

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

bruh everytime you quote me you always trying to drown the arguments with irrelevant shit.

Vietnam was during the Cold War, not after

I already said Iraq was a mistake.

We literally funded Afghanistan to fight an invading force lmao. Should we just have let them get fucked over by Russia?



LMAO YOURE A RUSSIA SIMP, it all makes sense now
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The job of the police is to enforce the laws, U.S enforces its hegemony.

but if you want to call them “World’s Bodyguards” that’s fine by me

See, you start projecting.
How can i be a Russia Simp if i criticize harshly imperialist governments?
Russia, China, USa, color themselves different colors but want the same thing.

Ukraine the proof, or Hong Kong or Taiwan or miryad of countries destroyed or attacked or oppressed by these three.
So take your words and stick them up your ass.

 

[Roo]

See, you start projecting.
How can i be a Russia Simp if i criticize harshly imperialist governments?
Russia, China, USa, color themselves different colors but want the same thing.

Ukraine the proof, or Hong Kong or Taiwan or miryad of countries destroyed or attacked or oppressed by these three.
So take your words and stick them up your ass.

So let me get this straight, you shit on the US for funding a defending force against an invading one and in both examples your provided the invading force is Russia? Nah lmao take that Russian dick out yo mouth lil bro 💀

Calling modern day America imperialist in the same sense as Russia and China is a temperature level IQ take. One at worst does regime changes, the others are literally waging wars to annex other countries into its empire