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The defense of Trump and bolsonaro are some of the redflags.
The ultra liberal/libertarian/capitalist/with no responsibilities vision is quite the sight
The anti science rethoric doesn't help.
The antifeminist takes are one of the problem too.
The common far right perception about woke and the upcoming of the leftist freedom taker is also red flag.
The progun discourse is showing the ideas too.
The non subtle transphobic rethoric is drawing the concept.
The sharing of cryptofascist rethoric is quite the commong factor
And the usual far right complotist BS is the cherry on top of the bigot cake
All of those points combined are showing me a far right propagandist.
I've been studying for decades. I know the importance of the creative library. I'm just choosing to fill that less with the old sacred and sometimes quite problematic stories or very bad myth and more with sometimes old but more so fresh stories closer to what I want to talk about, and relevant unspoken life event and situations.
Don't worry, I got this covered.
The defense of Trump and bolsonaro are some of the redflags.
The ultra liberal/libertarian/capitalist/with no responsibilities vision is quite the sight
The anti science rethoric doesn't help.
The antifeminist takes are one of the problem too.
The common far right perception about woke and the upcoming of the leftist freedom taker is also red flag.
The progun discourse is showing the ideas too.
The non subtle transphobic rethoric is drawing the concept.
The sharing of cryptofascist rethoric is quite the commong factor
And the usual far right complotist BS is the cherry on top of the bigot cake
All of those points combined are showing me a far right propagandist.
I've been studying for decades. I know the importance of the creative library. I'm just choosing to fill that less with the old sacred and sometimes quite problematic stories or very bad myth and more with sometimes old but more so fresh stories closer to what I want to talk about, and relevant unspoken life event and situations.
Don't worry, I got this covered.
so your argument basically boils down to if people disagree with your exact narrative then you support violence
you hear how batshit insane you sound???
denying abuse = literally endorsing violence
even tho, a you endorsed potitical violence on your opposition making you no better and b nobody here denies cases of violence do haapen to women
violence happens to all genders,races or whatever, it's not specfic to anyone group carrot
real question for you, carrot what do you value more these social sciences of yours or leftist political theory like if one disagreed with the other which would you favor???
i dont buy it
if there was really a focus on male supremacy why are there more male homeless and why does more women go into higher education such as colleges
By denying the systemic abuse that victime face and by denying their suffering, you are actually preventing them from being heard and preventing society to change in order to stop those abuses. You are therefore participating in the invizibilization of women all over the world and so, you are the PERFECT ALLY of the abusers.
You can deny it all you want, that's what you are.
Yes exactly. Someone who wouldn't endorse those abuse wouldn't question the scientificity and the data relative to the victims of abuses and violence and would not participate in their invisibilization and denial. You are ACTIVELY HURTFULL for women mate when you share incel rethoric, its time for you to wake the F up.
I consider legitimate political violence against urban furniture, you on the other hand is endorsing violence against women by refusing to denounce it and by denying their abuse. You are therefore on the sides of ABUSERS.
Science first, then politic second. But its a close call as without politic science can be bias.
I understand that you don't buy it, and that's pretty problematic in our world to be a science denier.
Sociology is as much of a science as natural science, the only reason why you are questionning it right now is that the right and the far right has been attacking this discipline for a little less than a century, simply because this discipline challenges ALL their beliefs.
The reason you have more men that are homeless is ALSO due to the same system that oppress women, but in this case, it has an effect also on men.
Patriarchy is a system of domination of men over women that is millenias old, this is a system that creates benefits for men, but also sometimes - when combined with the problems due to capitalism - creates also problems for men.
First Within the patriarcal system, men are more likely to engage in risk taking behaviors
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37293710/
Second, because men are EXPECTED in a patriarcal society to be more encline to be brave and help themself, there can be sometimes a problem of lack of good shelterism
Third and most important point: Because men are LESS LIKELY to seek HELP, social services and report mental illness than women. The reasons is principally education that comes with a patriarcal baggage.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5435523/
You really need to stop spitting on social science and accept reality, even when it challenges your point of view. You will understand that everything I'm talking about (and even some of the problem you are talking about) have similar roots.
You can deny it all you want, that's what you are.
Yes exactly. Someone who wouldn't endorse those abuse wouldn't question the scientificity and the data relative to the victims of abuses and violence and would not participate in their invisibilization and denial. You are ACTIVELY HURTFULL for women mate when you share incel rethoric, its time for you to wake the F up.
I consider legitimate political violence against urban furniture, you on the other hand is endorsing violence against women by refusing to denounce it and by denying their abuse. You are therefore on the sides of ABUSERS.
Science first, then politic second. But its a close call as without politic science can be bias.
I understand that you don't buy it, and that's pretty problematic in our world to be a science denier.
Sociology is as much of a science as natural science, the only reason why you are questionning it right now is that the right and the far right has been attacking this discipline for a little less than a century, simply because this discipline challenges ALL their beliefs.
The reason you have more men that are homeless is ALSO due to the same system that oppress women, but in this case, it has an effect also on men.
Patriarchy is a system of domination of men over women that is millenias old, this is a system that creates benefits for men, but also sometimes - when combined with the problems due to capitalism - creates also problems for men.
First Within the patriarcal system, men are more likely to engage in risk taking behaviors
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37293710/
Second, because men are EXPECTED in a patriarcal society to be more encline to be brave and help themself, there can be sometimes a problem of lack of good shelterism
Third and most important point: Because men are LESS LIKELY to seek HELP, social services and report mental illness than women. The reasons is principally education that comes with a patriarcal baggage.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5435523/
You really need to stop spitting on social science and accept reality, even when it challenges your point of view. You will understand that everything I'm talking about (and even some of the problem you are talking about) have similar roots.
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where's the cross that was used to crucify him
or other related shit that could be used to prove what the bible said really did happen
the current status quo is literally people with your politics
there was literally a mainstream push to get hilary elected cause she was a woman
with the mainstream status quo quite literally posting public disapproval of trump winning
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/12-days-stunned-nation-how-hillary-clinton-lost-n794131
dude, the system rn is femminist not far right
https://www.reuters.com/world/gende...cracy-stronger-says-kamala-harris-2021-06-30/
kamala is the vice president and that was a example of her public statements
yea, the system currently with a woman femminst at the head of it aims to opress other females cause you said so ig
wouldt including politics by definition make it biased
like if you included say right wing ideals of nationalism wouldt that make it biased towards the right as much as it would be biased towards the left if you included intersectionality as a basis for things
these are just examples but you get the point, i suppose
im supposing you think men manning it up and doing things on their lonesome is solely a right wing thing??
if women are oppressed class as leftist theory preaches what do you think that entails of the men
the privileged class
even in leftist theory, it would be stigmatized for a man to need help cause he's privileged and shouldt take away help from a poor oppressed women who needs it more
this is the shit, why leftism is ideological not factual.
it's acting already existing gender stereotypes, you dont get facts by just assuming the prior ruling class was right in their notions
you test them
you guys seen tradcons saying men should man up and help the poor weak women then included it in our theories acted like you created the wheel when in reality, you just saying the same shit with just fancy new terminology
What you fail to understand is that my political vision is not the status quo, if it was the case I wouldn't have the need to tell you about this and we wouldn't need to create Hashtag to deinvizibilize women victim of abuse.
Seriously, you need to take your pride down and understand that currently, your thinking is HEGEMONIC. Meaning that currently, your vision, is other words, the vision that women are not more victims of abuse than men, is the main vision in society.
We are the one challenging the status co, not you mate.
And still, during all the campagn, women are delegitimized because of their gender by the opposite and hegemonic side, sometime by someone like Trump who is a straight up abuser. Let me remind you that Trump won against HIlary, not the opposite.
No, again, the system is liberal. Meaning that the system is only sucking feminist idea in order to appeal to the leftist that are against their politics, in reality, the system is pro capitalist and feminism is just a way to appear less violent.
First, she is not at the head, second look at what she is tanking from the opposition because of her gender.
Again, the gemonic thinking is still the one of a patriarcal society. We have a looooooooooong way to go before the end of patriarchy.
On the contrary, politics applied to science means that it can help it make the good choices and avoid systemic biases. FOr example without politic, science would be even more bias against women than it already is
https://www.science.org/content/article/women-researchers-cited-less-men-heres-why-what-can-done
Bias sciences means bias researches and therefore researches that can favorize inequalities. So we must fight that with something and that something is politics applied to science.
That's the thing, there is a reason why only leftist political ideas are similar to science. THe reason is simple : leftism is based on reality while rightism is mainly based on myths.
I tried to explain you this fact multiple time already. The values of the right are based on mythological traits. For example, the value of merit (one of the biggest value of the right), is something that holds no ground on a scientific basis. Its simply enters in contradiction with reality where the individual are shaped by their environment, their experience and theirs genes. It works with merit but with many other traits as well, Free will / Freedom of speech that creates more freedom / Libertarianism / Liberalism etc.
No. Its a global thing.
Patriarchy is a system that applies to everyone, and every men are expected to be strong and take care of themself. Which leads to situations where men will often refuse to seek help and shelter or report mental illness (I'm an example of that, it took me 10 years to report my mental illness to a therapist because I thought that I could fight it myself), and situation where people are creating less shelters for men, expecting them to be stronger.
Its all because of one big system that we are all participating in : Patriarchy.
You need to see patriarchy not as a system that is above us and invisible, but a system we are all participating is like in that dance:
To break the system that is patriarchy we must break the entire system and break all the bond that are pushing us to "dance" and create inequalities. FOr that, we must first understand the nature of patriarchy : a system of domination of men over women where US men, are participating actively and where MEN are ALL (including me) benefiting from it.
INdeed, We men are priviledged. I wouldn't call it a "class" tho, more like a "social group".
No, in leftism, men seeking for help or reporting mental disease is something that is praised. Meaning that becoming a leftist will literally better your health.
It was the case for me, I was a liberal, and the moment I seeked for helped is the moment I understood core leftism principles about patriarchy. Leftism literally saved my life.
Of course its ideological, but it doesn't mean that it can't be factual. I proved you with clear data and clear researches paper that everything I talked about was the reality.
Now, you need to understand the importance of looking at ALL science (and not just the ones you deems legitimate) and start questionning your own point of view.
Social sciences created the wheel. Leftism is just taking that science to make it political. That's all. But everything we talk about in leftism are based on factual evidences. You need to understand that.
Seriously, you need to take your pride down and understand that currently, your thinking is HEGEMONIC. Meaning that currently, your vision, is other words, the vision that women are not more victims of abuse than men, is the main vision in society.
We are the one challenging the status co, not you mate.
And still, during all the campagn, women are delegitimized because of their gender by the opposite and hegemonic side, sometime by someone like Trump who is a straight up abuser. Let me remind you that Trump won against HIlary, not the opposite.
No, again, the system is liberal. Meaning that the system is only sucking feminist idea in order to appeal to the leftist that are against their politics, in reality, the system is pro capitalist and feminism is just a way to appear less violent.
First, she is not at the head, second look at what she is tanking from the opposition because of her gender.
Again, the gemonic thinking is still the one of a patriarcal society. We have a looooooooooong way to go before the end of patriarchy.
On the contrary, politics applied to science means that it can help it make the good choices and avoid systemic biases. FOr example without politic, science would be even more bias against women than it already is
https://www.science.org/content/article/women-researchers-cited-less-men-heres-why-what-can-done
Bias sciences means bias researches and therefore researches that can favorize inequalities. So we must fight that with something and that something is politics applied to science.
That's the thing, there is a reason why only leftist political ideas are similar to science. THe reason is simple : leftism is based on reality while rightism is mainly based on myths.
I tried to explain you this fact multiple time already. The values of the right are based on mythological traits. For example, the value of merit (one of the biggest value of the right), is something that holds no ground on a scientific basis. Its simply enters in contradiction with reality where the individual are shaped by their environment, their experience and theirs genes. It works with merit but with many other traits as well, Free will / Freedom of speech that creates more freedom / Libertarianism / Liberalism etc.
No. Its a global thing.
Patriarchy is a system that applies to everyone, and every men are expected to be strong and take care of themself. Which leads to situations where men will often refuse to seek help and shelter or report mental illness (I'm an example of that, it took me 10 years to report my mental illness to a therapist because I thought that I could fight it myself), and situation where people are creating less shelters for men, expecting them to be stronger.
Its all because of one big system that we are all participating in : Patriarchy.
You need to see patriarchy not as a system that is above us and invisible, but a system we are all participating is like in that dance:
To break the system that is patriarchy we must break the entire system and break all the bond that are pushing us to "dance" and create inequalities. FOr that, we must first understand the nature of patriarchy : a system of domination of men over women where US men, are participating actively and where MEN are ALL (including me) benefiting from it.
INdeed, We men are priviledged. I wouldn't call it a "class" tho, more like a "social group".
No, in leftism, men seeking for help or reporting mental disease is something that is praised. Meaning that becoming a leftist will literally better your health.
It was the case for me, I was a liberal, and the moment I seeked for helped is the moment I understood core leftism principles about patriarchy. Leftism literally saved my life.
Of course its ideological, but it doesn't mean that it can't be factual. I proved you with clear data and clear researches paper that everything I talked about was the reality.
Now, you need to understand the importance of looking at ALL science (and not just the ones you deems legitimate) and start questionning your own point of view.
Social sciences created the wheel. Leftism is just taking that science to make it political. That's all. But everything we talk about in leftism are based on factual evidences. You need to understand that.
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