The Epstein stuff is misinformation spread by both sides. I saw lefties itching at the thought of Donald Trump being a serial rapist
Mate. Donald Trump might not be related to the Epstein story (I don't know I didn't follow this file) but :
- He is still accused by multiple women of sexual abuse
- He was accused of attempted rape by Jill Harth
- He was accused of rape by E. Jean Carroll
https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

So.. let's tone down the defense of Trump.. especially in those moment where victims are harrassed on social media for speaking about their abuse.

There is missinformation on the left also indeed, in fact complotist can also come from the left, but the impact are not the same.

Anyway, the point is not to say who is right or wrong here. Its to look and stare at those who will use those new information to attack the left and therefore people who are fighting against oppression..

No no. its the same.


Sounds like poor parenting. Some people are just going to be bad.
Let's do nothing then !!! And let's accept the situation as it is !! Oh ! And let's blame parents and not the system/institutions which allows youngs to get guns.
 
A gun's a gun, it'll sit there until somebody picks it up.
Yeah, let's act like a gun at free disposal is the same situation that a gun that is locked under strict conditions...
:lawsigh:


Bad people will always find a way to kill people
The famous rethoric of people who can't see the difference between someone who is facing a gun and someone who is facing a knife..


gun's are just one of the first options they go with, it's a people problem.
I own Gun's myself I'm not causing mayhem etc...
Wrong, its both.

Guns are a problem
AND
Society is a problem (and not people per say, because you can't expect of psychotic person to just suddenly heal themself, they need the help of society and right now, society is not helping them correctly)

The big issue here, is that instead of AT LEAST doing something about ONE, JUST ONE of those problems and reduce DRASTICALLY the potentiality of those shooting by reducing/stopping this easy access to guns, we are trapped in a situation where we have to listen to the fallacious discourse of people like you who just defend gun (even during a shooting) and refuse to act just because "gun = second amendment = can't touch because ... murica I guess ?"

So when we look at the reality.. What you want is not for those shooting to stop, its for gun's right not to be changed, because if you were reasonning logically, you would JUMP at those who are defending the right to easy access for guns and you would make EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to AT LEAST reduce the potentiality of those shooting.

So let's not act like you care about that issue mate..
 
Yeah, let's act like a gun at free disposal is the same situation that a gun that is locked under strict conditions...
:lawsigh:



The famous rethoric of people who can't see the difference between someone who is facing a gun and someone who is facing a knife..



Wrong, its both.

Guns are a problem
AND
Society is a problem (and not people per say, because you can't expect of psychotic person to just suddenly heal themself, they need the help of society and right now, society is not helping them correctly)

The big issue here, is that instead of AT LEAST doing something about ONE, JUST ONE of those problems and reduce DRASTICALLY the potentiality of those shooting by reducing/stopping this easy access to guns, we are trapped in a situation where we have to listen to the fallacious discourse of people like you who just defend gun (even during a shooting) and refuse to act just because "gun = second amendment = can't touch because ... murica I guess ?"

So when we look at the reality.. What you want is not for those shooting to stop, its for gun's right not to be changed, because if you were reasonning logically, you would JUMP at those who are defending the right to easy access for guns and you would make EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to AT LEAST reduce the potentiality of those shooting.

So let's not act like you care about that issue mate..
Why Would I want school Shootings to happen? Your putting words in my mouth. Just because you don't have an actual argument.
Projection is your game.
 
The second comment here tells you all you need to know about the current mindset
The current mindset is "let's not do anything about that, let's just attack woke people for wanting to take our guns away"


Why Would I want school Shootings to happen? Your putting words in my mouth. Just because you don't have an actual argument.
Projection is your game.
I'm not saying you want that. I'm saying that you don't care.

Because if you'd care. You would be assisting me in explaining why we must do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to stop those shooting and kids dying, even if it means changing the constitution and guns laws.

But you are not doing that. Instead you are defending guns and explaining why they are not a problem.

Therefore.. you, and every person who defend the second amendment of the US constitution and/or the right of easy access to guns in nations like this one ... don't care.
 
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how far your ignorance go when we talk about science and politic and I will post that everytime you speak in order for people to understand how problematic you are and not reply. (Unless if they want to waste time for nothing)

we been debating this shit for pretty much like a year.


your getting offended over nothing man.


a guy disagrees with you on politics, it aint the end of the world man
 
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