Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

except when leftists disagree with pro-life peeps for saying life begins at conception, which isnt unusual at all?!

It can happen yes. Those are people who are unaware of the consensus (just like I was) therefore they have a non scientific vision of the reality.
But this doesn't negate the fact that even in the case were people are not on the same line when it comes to the beginning of life, leftist will eventually align with the scientific consensus as long as the conclusions and methodolodies stay ethic and just.

This is what I did. I do not agree with the beginning of life beginning at the fertilization (I believe that there is absolutely no frontiers between life and the absence of life), but I align with the consensus and therefore support their consensus in this case.

 

[Roo]

No mate, Academias just teach.

What a lot of you guys here are still failing to understand is not that Academias are teaching leftism therefore academia are leftist, its that Academias are leaning left because they are teaching scientific and researched knowledges and those knowledge happen to rely on reality therefore they are adopted by the left.

Once you will understand that scientific consensus are always supported by the left, you will also understand why academias seems - from an outside point of view - to teach "leftist dogmas"

???

There's nothing consensus about things like Critical Race Theory, Gender theories that are taught in Academia. But that isn't even the issue, the issue is the ostracization or even banning when it comes to opposing ideas.

Academia isn't supposed to be dogmatic, it's why thesis are presented and then scrutinized

 

[Logiko]

There's nothing consensus about things like Critical Race Theory, Gender theories that are taught in Academia

"Critical race theories" are not a consensus, its a branch of study, it englobs a lot of type of researches. Saying "critical race theory is not a consensus" is like saying "Cosmology" is not a consensus, its a nonsense.

And there is no such things as "gender theories". THe term "gender theories" is a label invented by the far right to critic the gender studies (which is, again, a branch research of sociology)

There is no "banning of opposing ideas" unless you are talking about unscientific theories. What you are talking about is the same process that ban the studies of platist theories.

And you not implying that platist theories should be AS studied AS scientific datas of earth, are you ?

 

[Mathias]

People keeping post to post track on this thread could have read dozens of books and gotten more knowledgeable about multiple fields of study or art but chose this bullshit instead 🤡

 

[Logiko]

People keeping post to post track on this thread could have read dozens of books and gotten more knowledgeable about multiple fields of study or art but chose this bullshit instead 🤡

Fun fact, I'm actually learning things by debating on this thread.

 

[Uncle Van]

People keeping post to post track on this thread could have read dozens of books and gotten more knowledgeable about multiple fields of study or art but chose this bullshit instead 🤡

People here don't even know political terms by definition even when there's a quick Google search💀 You expect some to read books?

 

[Roo]

"Critical race theories" are not a consensus, its a branch of study, it englobs a lot of type of researches. Saying "critical race theory is not a consensus" is like saying "Cosmology" is not a consensus, its a nonsense.

oh? so show me one critical race theory that has scientific consensus, i'll wait

In the meanwhile I'll show what happens to professors who pushback against the dogma.

https://compactmag.com/article/a-black-professor-trapped-in-anti-racist-hell

And there is no such things as "gender theories". THe term "gender theories" is a label invented by the far right to critic the gender studies (which is, again, a branch research of sociology)

Gender theory is gender studies, the term are interchangeable and alot of it isn't scientific consensus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_studies

Stop trying to weasel out of it.

There is no "banning of opposing ideas" unless you are talking about unscientific theories. What you are talking about is the same process that ban the studies of platist theories.

And you not implying that platist theories should be AS studied AS scientific datas of earth, are you ?

wtf is a platist?

When was the last time you stepped foot in a college? Academia doesn't only deal in scientific consensus. That literally defeats the purpose of thesis and dissertations

 

[Zenos7]

People here don't even know political terms by definition even when there's a quick Google search💀 You expect some to read books?

Forget political terms, i had to pull a definition for a basic term like "building" before.
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That literally defeats the purpose of thesis and dissertations

Ye obviously you also learn how to conduct research in academia

 

[Logiko]

oh? so show me one critical race theory that has scientific consensus, i'll wait

Well, I'm not aware of all the researchs on the subject but a little bit of googling can easily show for example that researchers agrees to say that white supremacism or "racial power" maintain itself alive over time because of the laws put in place. - source wiki

I'm sure you can find a lot of other consensus if you search a little, I'm not an expert on the subject.

In the meanwhile I'll show what happens to professors who pushback against the dogma.

https://compactmag.com/article/a-black-professor-trapped-in-anti-racist-hell

I didn't read your article, just vaguely and rapidly glanced over it. I saw that the idea that black people should have safe spaces and the fact to trust back women were considered Dogma and I decided not to read further. This vision is traditionnalist and conservatist, I wouldn't listen it as a legitimate criticism of more progressive educations.

Gender theory is gender studies

No. One is a conservative label created to criticize a field of study, the other is the academic and scientific name of the field

alot of it isn't scientific consensus

Again, its a field of study, not a consensus. Its like saying that cosmology is a consensus, its an ignorant nonsense.

Stop trying to weasel out of it.

Read about what you are talking.

wtf is a platist?

Oh, sorry. I forgot to translate the word.

The word is flat earther.

When was the last time you stepped foot in a college? Academia doesn't only deal in scientific consensus.

Indeed. But the educations that are criticized by conservative and the far right are not the discipline that don't share a consensus

What conservative, you and the far right are criticizing are the study of sociology. A discipline of science that tends to deliver consensus.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Fun fact, I'm actually learning things by debating on this thread.

Bye

 

[Logiko]

Bye

 

[Zolo]

Liberals

 

[Toby D. Dog]

People here don't even know political terms by definition even when there's a quick Google search💀 You expect some to read books?

That's what happened when I clowned Bobby so hard for his political illiteracy that he ended up posting death threats.

 

[Yoho]

Liberals

What's that?

 

[Zolo]

What's that?

Liberals

 

[Yoho]

Liberals

Ah I gotcha

 

[Logiko]

What's that?

Liberals are people who who think that progress can only come through "liberal" value. Those value have in common the notions of liberty and individualism.

But be careful not to confuse a liberal with someone that is promoting more socialist values like current leftist in USA or in Europe.

Basically liberalism is the ideology in power in the west. Some people are more leaning left toward social progress and others are leaning more right.

 

[Yoho]

Liberals are people who who think that progress can only come through "liberal" value. Those value have in common the notions of liberty and individualism.

But be careful not to confuse a liberal with someone that is promoting more socialist values like current leftist in USA or in Europe.

Basically liberalism is the ideology in power in the west. Some people are more leaning left toward social progress and others are leaning more right.

Ahhh which way do you lean

 

[Logiko]

Ahhh which way do you lean

I'm not a liberal so I only lean toward the left.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Liberals are people who who think that progress can only come through "liberal" value. Those value have in common the notions of liberty and individualism.

But be careful not to confuse a liberal with someone that is promoting more socialist values like current leftist in USA or in Europe.

Basically liberalism is the ideology in power in the west. Some people are more leaning left toward social progress and others are leaning more right.

Better liberalism than authoritarian dictatorships