Here you directly attribute sexism with right wing confusionism.
Where in this quote :
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But facing confusionnist right wingers who think there are feminist... It's no wonder no one here can see why there is sexism... lol
"You call sexist every person who disagree with you" is the equivalent of the reactionnary "you call racist every person who disagree with you".. Same baseless affirmation...
I call sexism because there is sexism but even more so toxic masculinity. If some people don't see it where there is toxicity it means that those people are not aware of that toxicity. Being a mod or even an admin doesn't make you all knowing, it just gives you power.
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.. do you see that I equate right wing confusionnism with sexism here ?
I'm really starting to think that you have a problem of comprehension Van. And i'm mean that seriously, you are CONSTANTLY missinterpreting stuff based on your own bias, stuff that are not there.
There is absolutely NO equivalence - at least in this quote - between sexism and right wing confusionnism.
I explain first that I'm facing right wing confusionnist who think they are feminists. (Which is something that exist and it doesn't necessarily means that those people are sexist.)
AND THEN
I explain that it's logical that noone can see sexism, since those people have a completely confused vision of what feminism is.
So.. SERIOUSLY
Stop reading my post with your biases. I don't know how, but try to read the words more objectively because you are inventing stuff that aren't there right now. At its a constant when I'm talking with you.
This is what you attribute to being sexist(anyone can click on the post link to see who's being responded to
The quote is "
This way of diminushing Carrot's importance starts to feels a bit sexist and biggoty. "
Which literally what I explained here, when I said that people where using reactionnary tools to attack Carrot in the Yamato VS Carrot war.
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"The Carrot VS Yamato war was a political war and Yamato fans were using similar method to those of the Trumpist clan (missinformation, lies, attacks, promotion of virilistic value, attack on the genderfluidity of the character of Yamato herself, insults, toxicity, volontary ignorance, refusal to listen etc."
So you are just paraphrasing me here.
You think/thought Carrot is special(and another part bolded)
Which was true, she is special, so special that she went from simple mink to Queen of Zou. What are you trying to say here ?
And another example of what you assume about others to call them sexist
Which was an actual thing. The reactionnary tools to undermine Carrot were sexist ones:
- She lacks strenght
- She is annoying
- She is just another Chopper (which is a dehumanization of Carrot as a character, something typical of a sexist behavior)
- When Carrot depicted amazing feats, those moment of greatness were CONSTANTLY questionned and undermined
- She was criticized for being a crybaby at the end
- She was criticized for being dumb and Naive
- She was criticized from screaming too much
- Her characterization (which is exceptionnaly deep for such a character btw) has been CONSTANTLY undermined and question
- For her detractor she had "no personnality"
Etc. Etc.
Those are the ways women are usually treated by men in fiction. Hence why I explained multiple time that the tool used by the Yamato fanbase to discuss her legitimaty to join the crew was reactionnary tool. In fact those tools were often returned on Yamato herself for other and yet similar reasons.
I take NOTHING back of what I said in those quote, there was sexism coming from the detractors of Carrot. And diverse tools that are usually used by reactionnaries to attack leftist people.
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(missinformation, lies, attacks, promotion of virilistic value, attack on the genderfluidity of the character of Yamato herself, insults, toxicity, volontary ignorance, refusal to listen etc
So no. I did not "assumed", I observed.
Just like I'm observing that the moderation is allowing transphobic rethoric to flourish on this very thread or even on the forum. Simply because in BOTH cases, said moderation is uneducated on the notion of feminism and transphobia (and racism in some cases).
SH because she was never presented as important to that level
Which was only ONE of the arguments presented by said Yamato 'fanbase".
The only thing that I can grant you... is that I tended to generalize this behavior to most participant that were attacking me and Carrot.
Which was simply a survival mechanism because, like you said, everyone can see the context, and EVERYONE can see that I was pretty much alone fighting the BS argumentations of 5, 10 and sometimes 15 people at once. So I had no choice but to generalize the behavior I was facing. For that, I agree, Mea culpa.
For the rest, I keep my position. You are constantly lying and completely missing the points of my post, which is what I demonstrated above.
So what are the chances Logiko is just an "elaborate" troll and everyone takes him seriously?
What about you ?
Interesting I hadn’t actually seen all these Carrot talks in new crew mate thread by @Logiko . To be honest he seems to have evolved since then. No ? Did Logiko went through some character development ? Or did he just get himself a plastic surgery with that new pseudonym ?
I stand by pretty much everything that I said on those threads. There was actual sexism, there was actual racism, there was actual reactionnary tool used to attack Carrot, Yamato, my argumentation (and me) but I agree that I tended to generalize a bit too much at the time. Simply because I had no idea at the time who was who and this entire Yamato toxic fanbase was like a blob of hatred to me with pretty much the same arguments.
Even if that is the case, it takes mental illness to be this committed to this.
.. Psychophobia, I've seen enough of you for today
@Logiko loads of good stuff out there about Neuroscience on youtube. Educate yourself and help yourself overcome whatever is your problem,
Lmao. You are not in a place when you can lecture me about science mate. Start to learn what it is and what it contains and how it works and THEN try to give me lesson on how to scientifically educate myself.
we can make a separate thread if you guys just wanna talk about Logiko 24/7, this is the politics thread
