That's not how it works. International law court is only there to judge the events of a genocide. They need to thoroughly investigate and this takes years. You don't need them to stop ongoing massacres and genocides. You don't even need their approval to classify something as a genocide
Then genocide is whatever I decide is a genocide. It’s a international crime, you can’t call someone a murderer when they haven’t been charged of said crime

my point was made, logiko is stating it is one without even considering there’s people who think otherwise
 
All the time. Some areas it hardly happens, others all the time. Hell, some cops only have physical encounters once every 5 years or so. There's no universal metric, but I've personally have been stabbed and shot at.

Are all cops good, mean well, or qualified? Lol hell no. Me and a friend once got a ticket for, and I quote, "Reckless Eyeballing" lmao
You were staring at some ass, weren't you? lmfao
 
I did come to realize that it’s not as straightforward as it seems.

I do think Hamas genuinely uses its own civilian population as pawns in the war. They see being killed by Israel as a form of martyrdom.

Could Israel have done a genocide? I think it’s possible, especially with some of the comments made by certain politicians.

but I’d say it’s definitely needs to be investigated.
I mean you can call it a genocide, I personally think a warzone isn’t one or else we would call all of WW2 one. But to act like it’s a settled matter is what I have a problem with
 
my point was made, logiko is stating it is one without even considering there’s people who think otherwise
People who think otherwise are either ally to those doing the massacre or people that are not really informed enough on the massacre that is happening.

It's a genocide. It's unquestionnable now. Time will prove it.

Not only that but this appelation is fundamental to make the leaders realize their responsibility and stop the massacre. Without this word, there is no reaction.

Bro, the sad thing is, he didn't say anything wrong. You're just taking offense to the truth. There are people out there who are genuinely living, struggling, and experiencing the world as it is - and you try to tell them that they're wrong when you're a stay-at-home layabout who has self-admitted he struggles to do anything outside of post on this forum.
Oh, so this is a gaslighting festival this morning ?

You seem to be volontarily making the confusion here that I'm saying that people are wrong because they do those work. When I'm not even talking about them OR their work, I'm talking to Van and his political vision.

But good try. And you are proving me EXACTLY what I explained in this paragraph. Literally a 1:1

Meritocracy shapes the system that is capitalism. Capitalism would not be able to stand completely without this belief, this belief is PART of the system.

It's shapes how people thinks about their situation, how people act for their own interest and how people interact with each others.

Meritocracy literally acts as a sub system inside the system. A personnal constitution for all people. It's the glue that holds the system together.

For ex:

When someone tells me that I'm not legitimate to have a political opinions simply because I'm not a productive member of society (in the capitalist sence) and because of my situation laugh at me or insult me, well.. they are forcing ableism ON me IN capitalism BECAUSE OF a meritocratic belief that only people who are "productive members" of society are legitimate and worthy to be rewarded, because they put their "efforts" in.

The point in all of this response from you that is completely unacceptable is your comments about his job.
What comment ? I've never judge his job mate. I commented a systemic political leanance of people who are policemen or Military. Stop trying to invent things.


"Who the hell made you think that you were legitimate to have the right to judge my way of fighting bigotry?" you sure mock and deride other people's choices in life.
I'm always fighting the argument or the behavior, NEVER the legitimacy of people to express their opinions.

I think you didn't get that understanding. Because that's exactly what you guys are doing right now.


If Van has a job where is has to risk getting stabbed to help people - then that makes him a fucking hero to society. What gives you the right to assume it's too hard for him? He never said anything of the sort.
Because he uses that hardship as an excuse to attack me. I'm not his punching ball, if work is hard, stop doing the work, don't project your working insecurities on other.

And it is valable for everyone else here, you included.

You're actually a disgusting person.
Sure


You on the other hand just go around touting some kind of moral superiority when you're the the least well adjusted person in this entire forum.
Are you still trying to confuse my mental health with my political opinions ?

Do i need to bring a gaslightometer for you to stop this rethoric or you start to understand that your behavior toward me right now is not ok at all ?


You can't work. You can't REALLY contribute.
Oh, hello again meritocracy. It's crazy how you guy are making a mission to prove my point.

It's like you are trying to prove me right somehow in a weird agressive way.

:wellwell:


I wouldn't be surprised if you are either surviving on your parent's work, or the taxpayer.
Tax payers ? Funny how you are twisting the aids to handicaped people. Not problematic at all lol.

No. I'm simply living based on a right I have and that was won by social struggle. But I told everyone that myself month ago. You are late to the party mate.


And yes, I am looking down on you for that. Not because being unable to work is something to be mocked (one of my best friends is diagnosed with schizophrenia and he can't work),
What a good friend and ally your friend has.....


but because you show NO FUCKING HUMILITY despite the situation you are in.
I have no humility to show. Handicaped people are not your protegees Toutankhamon.
My living is a right. And handicaped person do not have to bow down their heads in shame because they are being helped or because they wanna express their political opnion a little bit strongly.

WHO THE F. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?

Take the words right out my mouth >>>
You're actually a disgusting person.

You act as if you know a world that you don't engage with.
Same thing. You don't know what I know or what I engage in. You don't have a F* clue about my experience, so keep the personal attacks about my situation for yourself or I will make the moderation act like they promised me they would.

If you do not agree with me. Disagree, you don't have to become THIS and start attacking my way of life. And it goes for you @Uncle Van van as well.


I am not gaslighting you, you’re the one trying to act like it isn’t a topic of discussion and is a settled matter.
If you think it's not settle, then you have missed the information about the 40000 thousand Palestinians dead and the probably 100x time more injured.

You are denying this experience that everyone can see and assert and calls me authoritarian because I'm describing it as it is.

You lost the stick of reason here and you are in personal attack territory. Just like your friend above.

If you’re not comfortable with that I suggest you look at your own comments and post and do some introspection
I'm owning what I say. And what I say is back up by reasonnable evidences, scientific knowledge and activist experience.

Calling me authoritarian because I strongly affirm factual datas is highly problematic. You can disagree, you can try to prove me wrong, but if you start attacking a rationnal method, we will start to have some problems.


And of course you again manipulate what someone is saying.
You are using your hardship at your job as a way to attack my life and my way of fighting.

If you can't take the heat, don't bring the heat. If your job is hard, change it, don't complain to me.

Didn’t say nor imply that the job was too hard or any of the postions I've mentioned
Then your comment about the hardship of your work is irrelevant and has no pertinence in a discussion about my political opinions.

And also thanks for insulting everyone who died on the job because of their "bad decisions."
I'm talking about your bad decision here. You are fast to twist things mate.

Just love to dismiss human lives dontcha?
You are finished ?
Was it good ?

Now get to work. I'm sure you have a lot to do in your not authoritarive at all institution to contribute to society today in contrary to my handicaped a*s.


Also playing victim by saying I'm going after your personal life, but you literally used my job to say I'm a right wing oppressor
That's what you do get. I never attacked you on your job or your contribution to society.

I'm not as low as you in this domain.

What I did is expressed who funny it was to understand that you were a cop, and therefore part of a institution based on the perpetuation of the status co, when we have been fighting on this exact subject since the beginning. And I followed that by explaining how this institution is politically charged.

I never attacked you on your job.

Again, that's not how I roll. I don't attack people on their lives or experiences. But you guys sure do. And so much that the moderation even had to stop people here from going to far in their attack toward my personal life.

You see.. i'm indeed arrogant. That's a fact. And I am that way because I need to be. I'm in an hostile environment spreading opinions that can get people to be very mad at me. So I need that strong shield.

You guys on this other hand, are just the reflection of your own political compass. Those attacks that you think I did are non existent, I do attack on behaviors and beliefs, but NEVER on the personal life or experience. What happens here is you, being reflected your OWN behavior.

I told you, I'm a mirror. I reflect what you give to me.
 
People who think otherwise are either ally to those doing the massacre or people that are not really informed enough on the massacre that is happening.

It's a genocide. It's unquestionnable now. Time will prove it.

Not only that but this appelation is fundamental to make the leaders realize their responsibility and stop the massacre. Without this word, there is no reaction.


Oh, so this is a gaslighting festival this morning ?

You seem to be volontarily making the confusion here that I'm saying that people are wrong because they do those work. When I'm not even talking about them OR their work, I'm talking to Van and his political vision.

But good try. And you are proving me EXACTLY what I explained in this paragraph. Literally a 1:1





What comment ? I've never judge his job mate. I commented a systemic political leanance of people who are policemen or Military. Stop trying to invent things.



I'm always fighting the argument or the behavior, NEVER the legitimacy of people to express their opinions.

I think you didn't get that understanding. Because that's exactly what you guys are doing right now.



Because he uses that hardship as an excuse to attack me. I'm not his punching ball, if work is hard, stop doing the work, don't project your working insecurities on other.

And it is valable for everyone else here, you included.


Sure



Are you still trying to confuse my mental health with my political opinions ?

Do i need to bring a gaslightometer for you to stop this rethoric or you start to understand that your behavior toward me right now is not ok at all ?



Oh, hello again meritocracy. It's crazy how you guy are making a mission to prove my point.

It's like you are trying to prove me right somehow in a weird agressive way.

:wellwell:



Tax payers ? Funny how you are twisting the aids to handicaped people. Not problematic at all lol.

No. I'm simply living based on a right I have and that was won by social struggle. But I told everyone that myself month ago. You are late to the party mate.



What a good friend and ally your friend has.....



I have no humility to show. Handicaped people are not your protegees Toutankhamon.
My living is a right. And handicaped person do not have to bow down their heads in shame because they are being helped or because they wanna express their political opnion a little bit strongly.

WHO THE F. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?

Take the words right out my mouth >>>




Same thing. You don't know what I know or what I engage in. You don't have a F* clue about esxperience, so keep the personal attacks about my situation for yourself or I will make the moderation act like they promised me they would.

If you do not agree with me. Disagree, you don't have to become THIS and start attacking my way of life. And it goes for you @Uncle Van van as well.



If you think it's not settle, then you have missed the information about the 40000 thousand Palestinians dead and the probably 100x time more injured.

You are denying this experience that everyone can see and assert and calls me authoritarian because I'm describing it as it is.

You lost the stick of reason here and you are in personal attack territory. Just like your friend above.


I'm owning what I say. And what I say is back up by reasonnable evidences, scientific knowledge and activist experience.

Calling me authoritarian because I strongly affirm factual datas is highly problematic. You can disagree, you can try to prove me wrong, but if you start attacking a rationnal method, we will start to have some problems.



You are using your hardship at your job as a way to attack my life and my way of fighting.

If you can't take the heat, don't bring the heat. If your job is hard, change it, don't complain to me.


Then your comment about the hardship of your work is irrelevant and has no pertinence in a discussion about my political opinions.


I'm talking about your bad decision here. You are fast to twist things mate.


You are finished ?
Was it good ?

Now get to work. I'm sure you have a lot to do in your not authoritarive at all institution to contribute to society today in contrary to my handicaped a*s.



That's what you do get. I never attacked you on your job or your contribution to society.

I'm not as low as you in this domain.

What I did is expressed who funny it was to understand that you were a cop, and therefore part of a institution based on the perpetuation of the status co, when we have been fighting on this exact subject since the beginning. And I followed that by explaining how this institution is politically charged.

I never attacked you on your job.

Again, that's not how I roll. I don't attack people on their lives or experiences. But you guys sure do. And so much that the moderation even had to stop people here from going to far in their attack toward my personal life.

You see.. i'm indeed arrogant. That's a fact. And I am that way because I need to be. I'm in an hostile environment spreading opinions that can get people to be very mad at me. So I need that strong shield.

You guys on this other hand, are just the reflection of your own political compass. Those attacks that you think I did are non existent, I do attack on behaviors and beliefs, but NEVER on the personal life or experience. What happens here is you, being reflected your OWN behavior.

I told you, I'm a mirror. I reflect what you give to me.
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Does anybody here even try to read these long ass paragraphs that Logiko posts?
 
People who think otherwise are either ally to those doing the massacre or people that are not really informed enough on the massacre that is happening.

It's a genocide. It's unquestionnable now. Time will prove it.

Not only that but this appelation is fundamental to make the leaders realize their responsibility and stop the massacre. Without this word, there is no reaction.


Oh, so this is a gaslighting festival this morning ?

You seem to be volontarily making the confusion here that I'm saying that people are wrong because they do those work. When I'm not even talking about them OR their work, I'm talking to Van and his political vision.

But good try. And you are proving me EXACTLY what I explained in this paragraph. Literally a 1:1





What comment ? I've never judge his job mate. I commented a systemic political leanance of people who are policemen or Military. Stop trying to invent things.



I'm always fighting the argument or the behavior, NEVER the legitimacy of people to express their opinions.

I think you didn't get that understanding. Because that's exactly what you guys are doing right now.



Because he uses that hardship as an excuse to attack me. I'm not his punching ball, if work is hard, stop doing the work, don't project your working insecurities on other.

And it is valable for everyone else here, you included.


Sure



Are you still trying to confuse my mental health with my political opinions ?

Do i need to bring a gaslightometer for you to stop this rethoric or you start to understand that your behavior toward me right now is not ok at all ?



Oh, hello again meritocracy. It's crazy how you guy are making a mission to prove my point.

It's like you are trying to prove me right somehow in a weird agressive way.

:wellwell:



Tax payers ? Funny how you are twisting the aids to handicaped people. Not problematic at all lol.

No. I'm simply living based on a right I have and that was won by social struggle. But I told everyone that myself month ago. You are late to the party mate.



What a good friend and ally your friend has.....



I have no humility to show. Handicaped people are not your protegees Toutankhamon.
My living is a right. And handicaped person do not have to bow down their heads in shame because they are being helped or because they wanna express their political opnion a little bit strongly.

WHO THE F. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?

Take the words right out my mouth >>>




Same thing. You don't know what I know or what I engage in. You don't have a F* clue about esxperience, so keep the personal attacks about my situation for yourself or I will make the moderation act like they promised me they would.

If you do not agree with me. Disagree, you don't have to become THIS and start attacking my way of life. And it goes for you @Uncle Van van as well.



If you think it's not settle, then you have missed the information about the 40000 thousand Palestinians dead and the probably 100x time more injured.

You are denying this experience that everyone can see and assert and calls me authoritarian because I'm describing it as it is.

You lost the stick of reason here and you are in personal attack territory. Just like your friend above.


I'm owning what I say. And what I say is back up by reasonnable evidences, scientific knowledge and activist experience.

Calling me authoritarian because I strongly affirm factual datas is highly problematic. You can disagree, you can try to prove me wrong, but if you start attacking a rationnal method, we will start to have some problems.



You are using your hardship at your job as a way to attack my life and my way of fighting.

If you can't take the heat, don't bring the heat. If your job is hard, change it, don't complain to me.


Then your comment about the hardship of your work is irrelevant and has no pertinence in a discussion about my political opinions.


I'm talking about your bad decision here. You are fast to twist things mate.


You are finished ?
Was it good ?

Now get to work. I'm sure you have a lot to do in your not authoritarive at all institution to contribute to society today in contrary to my handicaped a*s.



That's what you do get. I never attacked you on your job or your contribution to society.

I'm not as low as you in this domain.

What I did is expressed who funny it was to understand that you were a cop, and therefore part of a institution based on the perpetuation of the status co, when we have been fighting on this exact subject since the beginning. And I followed that by explaining how this institution is politically charged.

I never attacked you on your job.

Again, that's not how I roll. I don't attack people on their lives or experiences. But you guys sure do. And so much that the moderation even had to stop people here from going to far in their attack toward my personal life.

You see.. i'm indeed arrogant. That's a fact. And I am that way because I need to be. I'm in an hostile environment spreading opinions that can get people to be very mad at me. So I need that strong shield.

You guys on this other hand, are just the reflection of your own political compass. Those attacks that you think I did are non existent, I do attack on behaviors and beliefs, but NEVER on the personal life or experience. What happens here is you, being reflected your OWN behavior.

I told you, I'm a mirror. I reflect what you give to me.
People who think otherwise are either ally to those doing the massacre or people that are not really informed enough on the massacre that is happening.

It's a genocide. It's unquestionnable now. Time will prove it.

Not only that but this appelation is fundamental to make the leaders realize their responsibility and stop the massacre. Without this word, there is no reaction.


Oh, so this is a gaslighting festival this morning ?

You seem to be volontarily making the confusion here that I'm saying that people are wrong because they do those work. When I'm not even talking about them OR their work, I'm talking to Van and his political vision.

But good try. And you are proving me EXACTLY what I explained in this paragraph. Literally a 1:1





What comment ? I've never judge his job mate. I commented a systemic political leanance of people who are policemen or Military. Stop trying to invent things.



I'm always fighting the argument or the behavior, NEVER the legitimacy of people to express their opinions.

I think you didn't get that understanding. Because that's exactly what you guys are doing right now.



Because he uses that hardship as an excuse to attack me. I'm not his punching ball, if work is hard, stop doing the work, don't project your working insecurities on other.

And it is valable for everyone else here, you included.


Sure



Are you still trying to confuse my mental health with my political opinions ?

Do i need to bring a gaslightometer for you to stop this rethoric or you start to understand that your behavior toward me right now is not ok at all ?



Oh, hello again meritocracy. It's crazy how you guy are making a mission to prove my point.

It's like you are trying to prove me right somehow in a weird agressive way.

:wellwell:



Tax payers ? Funny how you are twisting the aids to handicaped people. Not problematic at all lol.

No. I'm simply living based on a right I have and that was won by social struggle. But I told everyone that myself month ago. You are late to the party mate.



What a good friend and ally your friend has.....



I have no humility to show. Handicaped people are not your protegees Toutankhamon.
My living is a right. And handicaped person do not have to bow down their heads in shame because they are being helped or because they wanna express their political opnion a little bit strongly.

WHO THE F. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?

Take the words right out my mouth >>>




Same thing. You don't know what I know or what I engage in. You don't have a F* clue about esxperience, so keep the personal attacks about my situation for yourself or I will make the moderation act like they promised me they would.

If you do not agree with me. Disagree, you don't have to become THIS and start attacking my way of life. And it goes for you @Uncle Van van as well.



If you think it's not settle, then you have missed the information about the 40000 thousand Palestinians dead and the probably 100x time more injured.

You are denying this experience that everyone can see and assert and calls me authoritarian because I'm describing it as it is.

You lost the stick of reason here and you are in personal attack territory. Just like your friend above.


I'm owning what I say. And what I say is back up by reasonnable evidences, scientific knowledge and activist experience.

Calling me authoritarian because I strongly affirm factual datas is highly problematic. You can disagree, you can try to prove me wrong, but if you start attacking a rationnal method, we will start to have some problems.



You are using your hardship at your job as a way to attack my life and my way of fighting.

If you can't take the heat, don't bring the heat. If your job is hard, change it, don't complain to me.


Then your comment about the hardship of your work is irrelevant and has no pertinence in a discussion about my political opinions.


I'm talking about your bad decision here. You are fast to twist things mate.


You are finished ?
Was it good ?

Now get to work. I'm sure you have a lot to do in your not authoritarive at all institution to contribute to society today in contrary to my handicaped a*s.



That's what you do get. I never attacked you on your job or your contribution to society.

I'm not as low as you in this domain.

What I did is expressed who funny it was to understand that you were a cop, and therefore part of a institution based on the perpetuation of the status co, when we have been fighting on this exact subject since the beginning. And I followed that by explaining how this institution is politically charged.

I never attacked you on your job.

Again, that's not how I roll. I don't attack people on their lives or experiences. But you guys sure do. And so much that the moderation even had to stop people here from going to far in their attack toward my personal life.

You see.. i'm indeed arrogant. That's a fact. And I am that way because I need to be. I'm in an hostile environment spreading opinions that can get people to be very mad at me. So I need that strong shield.

You guys on this other hand, are just the reflection of your own political compass. Those attacks that you think I did are non existent, I do attack on behaviors and beliefs, but NEVER on the personal life or experience. What happens here is you, being reflected your OWN behavior.

I told you, I'm a mirror. I reflect what you give to me.
The narcissist will say anything to win. There is no depth he will not sink to. There is no lie he will not make.

*Looks at you*

Huh.

I have no humility to show. Handicaped people are not your protegees Toutankhamon.
My living is a right. And handicaped person do not have to bow down their heads in shame because they are being helped or because they wanna express their political opnion a little bit strongly.

WHO THE F. DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?
Nice assumption.

I've already said, I can accept I'm not the best person in the world.

And by humility, I meant but one thing, but I will not explain to a reprobate.

I'd tell you to grow up, but you haven't the capacity for self-reflection, narcissist.
 
I'd tell you to grow up, but you haven't the capacity for self-reflection, narcissist.
Say the guy who just told an handicaped man that he needs to be humble because he doesn't contribute to society and his helped by society... therefore he can't really express loud opinions.

:willight:

if some of you are getting that triggered then take a walk outside :seriously::seriously:
Nah don't worry I'm not triggered. I'm just putting things in caps and bold so that it makes more impact.

It's all about the show

:BigW:
 
All the time. Some areas it hardly happens, others all the time. Hell, some cops only have physical encounters once every 5 years or so. There's no universal metric, but I've personally have been stabbed and shot at.
Making societies less violent are centuries of work. I followed some courses about that for the case of France.

It's centuries of work from the State to make society less violent.
Unlike what people think it's not even a matter of education.
People are sometimes massively dangerous.

I don't think that banning guns would be enough for the US.


Then genocide is whatever I decide is a genocide. It’s a international crime, you can’t call someone a murderer when they haven’t been charged of said crime

my point was made, logiko is stating it is one without even considering there’s people who think otherwise
This would be difficult to argue that something is a genocide on your very own. Massacres in Gaza being classified as a genocide is far from being a mere individual or even popular belief.

Also isn't there a warrant against Netanyahu ?
 
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