Please let's help each other, Logiko has tried to help Van, and Van has tried to help Logiko, but even if you and we don't get along very well yet please let's continue to try and understand and be well with each other, especiwlly if we care about things like stopping fascism, that will be done through unity, and in my opinion it would be silly to let some past and small arguments and passive agressive or misinterpreted words get in the way of that,
Blax, you can't unite with people who think your political side is stupid. Revolution must start yes, but it will be made by those who are willing to make it, not by those who use the tool of the oppressor to attack the side that want positive change.
 
Blax, you can't unite with people who think your political side is stupid. Revolution must start yes, but it will be made by those who are willing to make it, not by those who use the tool of the oppressor to attack the side that want positive change.
Yeah, but whoever said the right thing and whoever said the "wrong" thing here, let's continue trying to be well with each other, nothing else matters if we are united with the purpose we hols
 
Please let's help each other, Logiko has tried to help Van, and Van has tried to help Logiko, but even if you and we don't get along very well yet please let's continue to try and understand and be well with each other, especiwlly if we care about things like stopping fascism, that will be done through unity, and in my opinion it would be silly to let some past and small arguments and passive agressive or misinterpreted words get in the way of that,
don't get involved in this that's all I m gonna say to you
 
Yeah, but whoever said the right thing and whoever said the "wrong" thing here, let's continue trying to be well with each other, nothing else matters if we are united with the purpose we hols
I'm using key words of the political and intellectualized radical left to make points, most of the time sharing common known researches and theories and people like him think this approach is stupid and I'm just a stupid and uneducated man not representing the radical left.

You can't argue with that rethoric sadly.

I understand the idea of unity, but sadly it's idealistic. By essence, if you associate with those guyz, they will kill the movement from the inside (it's exactly what happened in France) simply because they do not agree with the fundamentals.
 
Alrighty, could you please tell me more about this maybe here or in DMs?
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I don't really get what you are reffering ti though
I guess that being associated to Toriko can give you some hate from this thread

I don’t know. Also it’s fun to let people fight.


Isn't it required to go outside to do a revolution?
Yes but outside is dangerous bro. We’ll spark the conservative revolution on meta and x thanks to comrade Elon :finally:
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Not necessarily.

The french revolution was also pushed by intellectuals who prefered to take a step back and think about the movement instead of fighting.

A revolution is all people who care and follow the method, no matter their strenght or their mobility.
What do you mean the revolution was pushed by intellectuals ? What are you talking about here ?
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c...+2025&utm_medium=bitly&utm_source=YouTube2025
Ukraine has detained its army's chief psychiatrist for alleged "illegal enrichment" charges related to earnings of more than $1m (£813,000) accrued since the start of Russia's invasion in February 2022.
In a statement, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) said the man sat on a commission deciding whether individuals were fit for military service.
The SBU statement did not name him - however, a man called Oleh Druz was previously identified as the Ukrainian Armed Forces' chief psychiatrist.
The SBU said he owned three apartments in or near Kyiv, one in Odesa, two plots of land and several BMW luxury cars, and investigators searching his home also found $152,000 (£124,000) and €34,000 in cash.
The statement said the man did not declare the property, which was registered in the name of his wife, daughter, sons, and other third parties.
He now faces ten years in jail for the alleged charges of illegal enrichment and making a false declaration.
Druz was implicated in a similar case in 2017 which saw him fail to declare two SUVs and several properties, leading him to be suspended.
Ukraine has long battled endemic corruption.
In May, a Ukrainian MP was charged with embezzling £220,000, while in 2023 more than 30 conscription officials accused of taking bribes and smuggling people out of the country were sacked in an anti-corruption purge.
Last year, the Ukrainian parliament voted to abolish military medical commissions after several officials were accused of accepting bribes in exchange for issuing exemptions from military service.
Someone always ends up making bank when wars break out, and it's definitely not the soldiers that are fighting on the front lines. Expect the commanders higher up in the chain of command to have smuggled some of that aid money from the US that the Biden administration gleefully handed out while he was still in office.
 
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Please let's help each other, Logiko has tried to help Van, and Van has tried to help Logiko, but even if you and we don't get along very well yet please let's continue to try and understand and be well with each other, especiwlly if we care about things like stopping fascism, that will be done through unity, and in my opinion it would be silly to let some past and small arguments and passive agressive or misinterpreted words get in the way of that,



A lot of things are not made very obvious right now by places that talk about politics, maybe I'm dumber than average and I didn't look for it every day but it took me a year or a year and a half to understand what socialism means

Esit: But it is getting a lot better month by month
My guy....you cant make comments like this while being so out of the loop. It just ignores the root of the "problem."


Trump is out here rolling back civil rights era reforms. And yet we have foreign trolls in this thread that have no idea how the US political system works, praising him and pretending these executive orders are somehow beneficial to the country.


All in the name of getting rid of DEI, with the actual purpose being the downsize the government and replace them with yes men.
 
My guy....you cant make comments like this while being so out of the loop. It just ignores the root of the "problem."




All in the name of getting rid of DEI, with the actual purpose being the downsize the government and replace them with yes men.
I may be out of the loop entirely or just out of that conversation, you probably have a better idea of it than I do and it's your decision whether that conflict really mattera or not
 
@Blax Blah

To sum up, I was very confrontational at my arrival on this forum (more than today), I considered that people here were responsible of harrassment on Carrot's fans in the Nakama thread, so I came with a beef to call out this behavior. I used a lot of "you don't know X", "you don't understand Y", "you are toxic".

This created a situation where suddendly the 20 ish people who were banterring their Carrot's (and Yamato's) hatred directed their attention toward me and attacked me like crazy.

Moderators, Van included, didn't take that well and didn't like the fact that I started to call out the inaction of the moderation. Which left me with a threadBan of a month (calling me toxic for calling others toxic). I came back.. called out once again their inaction and the toxicity of the people here, same things.

I was not very politicized at the time, so I had a very individualized notion of systems. I thought that it was a indiividual problem at first.

After that, I started to poke the system and question the political leaning of the thread as I started to see some real conservative pattern, especially in the way people were talking about the women that were the subject of the "war" (Yamato and Carrot). This lead me to realize that the problem was a bit more structural and maybe political. Again, my approach was not really perfect, I again thought that by politicizing people, it would be possible to make them understand the subject and be less toxic.

In the meantime, the CarrotForNakama theory (Carrot will join af ter Wano) was disproven, which legitimated all the bullying that I faced.

I saw the creatiion of this political thread as an opportunity and I asked for the creation of asensitive section. Which TAC granted me. And thus, I started to develop political thinking and dive deeper into the questionning of the system of the forum and the methodology of the moderation.

By doing that, I had to label people and help clarify the political spectrum of this forum. So I used my different posts about diverses subjects such as the release of Hogward Legacy, the rise of the far right in the US, abortion, capitalism, meritocracy, to distinguish my political ennemies from my political allies. Thus, once again, creating a BIG target on my head because I also have the tendancy to talk a lot and disrespect politely those I have a big political beef with.

This included AL and Van. Which I labelled like everyone else or, more precisely, I refused to call a leftist (for various political reasons). They didn't liked that, especially Van, who has been using the end of my theory (and a comment about the racism of some fans against nonhuman character) as a way to attack my legitimacy here since the beginning.

The rest has been a year of back and forth. "you said that, you are uneducated" "you don't understand" "you are not a real leftist", sometimes from both of us.

I consider that Van, despite his historical knowledge has a MAJOR blindspot concerning sociology, anticapitalism and most gender struggles which makes him the tool of the conservatist here and he thinks i'm a joke and a caricature of a leftist who can't explain things properly and does not understand what real leftism is on top of having bad knowledge.

In short, we are like oil and water on a fundamental level.

What do you mean the revolution was pushed by intellectuals ? What are you talking about here ?
also* pushed

Various authors, writers, intellectuals and politicians helped, theorized and nourrished the revolutionnary debate at the time.

The french revolution was a period of extrem social awareness and political debate. It's was everywhere. A bit like Twitter but in the entire streets of Paris. Intellectuals helped in pushing fundamental ideas through letters, books, essays and journals.

Today, our range of action is excessively more important:
- We have scientists who can publish and render accessible fundamental studies
- We have medias who can distribute knowledge very quickly to millions
- We have influencers who can vulgarize and spread fundamental knowledge in an instant
- We have a ranger of amazing tools to organize without even needed to be in the streets
- We have strong associations and a connected world that can spread a big info instantly.

Revolution will not be only in the streets. It will be on all fronts.
 
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