Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jailer]

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Should have made one of him clapping Zelensky.

 

[NAMELESS]

Poland had no chance at stopping nazis in WW2, they still fought. Demanding of Ukrainians to lay down their arms while Putler is in their lands is a cowards move. My take on this mess is that Trump is willing to let Russia take the W in order to guarantee peace in Europe. Very disappointed on how the situation is unfolding.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Trump is really a manchild and has always been. I don't even know which mask fell off but this is indeed another low hit. His supporters will keep deepthroating him all over the US. And Russia saying some dumb shit like "oh my man Trump is so patient, how could he not hit Zelennsky there ?" just shows even more how "Trump x Putin" isn't only a meme but treason to the Republic.

Zelensky/Churchill comparisons are interesting. But now imagine if Trump was the US president in WW2 ? He is the dumbest motherfucker that ever existed in the history of US politics and a traitor obviously. Macron should have punched his teeth out instead of correcting him.

His fanboys who still think Trump is against war or actually cares about the lives of those Ukrainian soldiers he talked about are 1000% delusional, the guy only thinks of himself and his 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

 

[NAMELESS]

Btw, to anyone that believes Zelensky is illegally enriching himself, can any of you back this up with proof?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Drain the swamp my ass. Trump is just another politician. The mask fell off now.

Trump never wore a mask in the first place, I just don't understand how so many people fell for his lies.

 

[NAMELESS]

Trump never wore a mask in the first place, I just don't understand how so many people fell for his lies.

If that was the case, multiple assassination attempts at his life would not have happened and he would not have been the target of a judicial witch hunt.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Btw, to anyone that believes Zelensky is illegally enriching himself, can any of you back this up with proof?

It's been repeated ad nauseam that a great deal of Ukraine's funding from her allies is disappearing into nothingness.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If that was the case, multiple assassination attempts at his life would not have happened and he would not have been the target of a judicial witch hunt.

What are you even saying? Trump's true nature has been clear as day since the very beginning. You can call it a witch hunt or whatever you like, point is Trump is dangerous for the world and anyone not wearing maga tinted glasses knew this for years.

"Trump x Putin" isn't only a meme but treason to the Republic.

https://archive.ph/7S8tB

A former Soviet intelligence officer has claimed Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename “Krasnov.”

The bombshell allegation was made by Alnur Mussayev, a former Kazakh intelligence chief, in a Facebook post.
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One of the directorate’s primary objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

According to Mussayev, Trump, then a 40-year-old New York real estate developer, was one of those recruits.
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The document, according to intelligence sources, instructed agents to target “prominent figures in the West” with the aim of “drawing them into some form of collaboration with us… as an agent, or confidential or special or unofficial contact.” Mussayev’s claim appears to suggest that Trump may have been one such target.

I'm not the type to believe in every conspiracy theory but Trump's behavior even during his first term makes this quite plausible. The guy doesn't act like a politician on the world stage. He has neither filter nor shame nor honor.
(Also.China doing the same. Not necessarily with Trump but in general)

 

[NAMELESS]

What are you even saying? Trump's true nature has been clear as day since the very beginning. You can call it a witch hunt or whatever you like, point is Trump is dangerous for the world and anyone not wearing maga tinted glasses knew this for years.





https://archive.ph/7S8tB


I'm not the type to believe in every conspiracy theory but Trump's behavior even during his first term makes this quite plausible. The guy doesn't act like a politician on the world stage. He has neither filter nor shame nor honor.
(Also.China doing the same. Not necessarily with Trump but in general)

You are hating on Trump for your ideological reasons. The fact is that if Trump had been re-elected previously, this war would not have happened. The world got more peaceful during Trump first run as president. Cope and mald.
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It's been repeated ad nauseam that a great deal of Ukraine's funding from her allies is disappearing into nothingness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but where is the concrete evidence?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but where is the concrete evidence?

It's not exactly a secret that stuff is disappearing.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/23017

 

[Mathias]

Macron is not the macho man type.

NOT AI

Spoiler

He would never start a fist fight with anyone.

Oh yeah well his war policies in Ukraine aren't that bad yes.

Trump is just acting like a vulture and securing a big score for the US. Standard politician behavior. I thought he was better than this, it seems i was mistaken. The worst of it all is Trump pretending Zelensky can just shakes with Putler and ensure the safety of Ukraine. Everybody that has two eyes can see that Putin is not stopping until he conquers the whole of Ukraine. Ukraine will only be safe once Russia takes and major military L and Ukraine arm themselves to the teeth to ensure they don't get invaded again.

I can agree that Zelesnky's solution of entering NATO right now is kinda risky. But the best solution for Ukraine is to bring democracy in Russia. Ukraine isn't getting the nuclear bomb for instance. So arming to the teeth wouldn't really work very well imo. Unless you want a Pakistan/India relation.

It's been repeated ad nauseam that a great deal of Ukraine's funding from her allies is disappearing into nothingness.

You mean corruption ? Zelesnky ennriching himself is baseless accusation. But yes even when you donate for the war in Sudan, or for any conflict, some of it will be or might get stolen.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

You mean corruption ? Zelesnky ennriching himself is baseless accusation. But yes even when you donate for the war in Sudan, or for any conflict, some of it will be or might get stolen.

Think what you will and keep sending money, or even better take a plane and head to the front.

 

[Jailer]

We got one of those deepthroater bots you see on social media in this thread holy shit I thought I had them all on ignore

 

[NAMELESS]

Think what you will and keep sending money, or even better take a plane and head to the front.

Can you stop with ad hominem?

NOT AI

Spoiler

Oh yeah well his war policies in Ukraine aren't that bad yes.



I can agree that Zelesnky's solution of entering NATO right now is kinda risky. But the best solution for Ukraine is to bring democracy in Russia. Ukraine isn't getting the nuclear bomb for instance. So arming to the teeth wouldn't really work very well imo. Unless you want a Pakistan/India relation.




You mean corruption ? Zelesnky ennriching himself is baseless accusation. But yes even when you donate for the war in Sudan, or for any conflict, some of it will be or might get stolen.

That picture lol. Bro, Ukraine was forced to give up their nukes and then they were denied NATO membership. You guys failed at keeping Russia away from Ukraine and now it seems the USA is willing to let Ukraine get conquered by Russia. Putin is only stopping if the threat of escalation into WW3 is real, as long as NATO isn't willing to help Ukraine out of fear, they(Ukraine) will never be safe. A Pakistan/India relation would be better than all out war, which is what we have right now.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Can you stop with ad hominem?

Ad hominem should imply some kind of insult, like Jailer is doing right now.

 

[NAMELESS]

NOT AI

Spoiler

Oh yeah well his war policies in Ukraine aren't that bad yes.



I can agree that Zelesnky's solution of entering NATO right now is kinda risky. But the best solution for Ukraine is to bring democracy in Russia. Ukraine isn't getting the nuclear bomb for instance. So arming to the teeth wouldn't really work very well imo. Unless you want a Pakistan/India relation.




You mean corruption ? Zelesnky ennriching himself is baseless accusation. But yes even when you donate for the war in Sudan, or for any conflict, some of it will be or might get stolen.

Democracy in Russia? Has that ever happened in history?
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Ad hominem should imply some kind of insult, like Jailer is doing right now.

Ad hominem means not addressing the argument and instead personally going after whoever you are debating. Not necessarily an insult.

 

[Mathias]

Think what you will and keep sending money, or even better take a plane and head to the front.

I'd rather we stopped getting stolen by pro-rich people policies in the first place. As for heading to the front, it's not black and white. It's not kneeling to Putin or sending NATO against Putin. There are multiple scales of escalation before reaching an all-out war.

That picture lol. Bro, Ukraine was forced to give up their nukes and then they were denied NATO membership. You guys failed at keeping Russia away from Ukraine and now it seems the USA is willing to let Ukraine get conquered by Russia. Putin is only stopping if the threat of escalation into WW3 is real, as long as NATO isn't willing to help Ukraine out of fear, they(Ukraine) will never be safe. A Pakistan/India relation would be better than all out war, which is what we have right now.

Ukrainian nukes is like saying Turkish nukes to be honest. Unless I missed something big about Ukraine.

NATO countries are democracies who are also scarred to lose elections if they go for a war or something. But that's not the only argument. They also care more about their own citizens lives than Putin. Failing at keep

I think Ukraine should have joined either NATO or the EU sooner.

Democracy in Russia? Has that ever happened in history?

I guess it kinda was a thing between 1990 and 2000, lol.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

I'd rather we stopped getting stolen by pro-rich people policies in the first place. As for heading to the front, it's not black and white. It's not kneeling to Putin or sending NATO against Putin. There are multiple scales of escalation before reaching an all-out war.

Well, people are asking a nation without money and manpower to keep fighting a superpower. It should be "black and white", unless all their support amounts to is online bickering.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

My take on this mess is that Trump is willing to let Russia take the W in order to guarantee peace in Europe.

..to guarantee he gets Ukraine's resources. Once Putin controls the whole country he'll surely pay his butt buddy.

You are hating on Trump for your ideological reasons.

If you're still in denial I don't know what to tell you.

The fact is that if Trump had been re-elected previously, this war would not have happened. The world got more peaceful during Trump first run as president. Cope and mald.

We are witnessing in real time what Trump's definition of peace looks like. Not unlike that of China or of IS.