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Thanks, yeah i've check with neuroscientist, and they won't do anything for me. The problem is .. complicated I think. I need to punch my way through something that feels impossible to me, after that, I should be able to "recover"
Me being here is precisely a sign that I can't focus anyway.
Focus is a very tricky thing.
Me being here is precisely a sign that I can't focus anyway.
Focus is a very tricky thing.
Yeah. in my situation I don't think you would do better, trust me lol
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@HerreraIsBack @NAMELESS @Ravagerblade and other people who think more or less like them.. or think that I'm some lunatic for some reason:
This post has one purpose : I want to show your transparency and tell you what my intentions are when talking to you.
In another context I wouldn't talk to you, I would in fact tell people not to talk to you. I believe that in another context, it would be dangerous, and unsafe for many people. But we are kinda stuck together here, gladly no people in difficult condition are coming and noone wants to leave. We have a choice. Either we fight until the end of Worstgen, or we find a way to reach something together. I know I come off as patronizing, agressive, stubborn, dumb for some also, idealist, and many other stuff..
So I'm telling you. I do not want to prove you wrong or to own you or to try to show that you are stupid. I believe none of that. What I'm trying to do is to bring you on my side. Because I know for a FACT that we are happier here. (in the sense that society is a lot less confusing). it's frustrating because our ennemy is bigger, but liberating!
I'm handicaped, I have a mental condition that make my life hell and yet.. I'm in paradize compared to the times where my mind was living in confusion, liberatarian and conservative ideas. I truly want you to feel that. and if I'm being really honest: If we find a way for us to work together, this means that there is hope outside of the division of our ideologies. Even through the horrors and the prejudice. So we need to find that key or we will fight mindlessly.
But I don't have many tools. Being nice and explaining things simply by argumentations do not work. Same for facts, they do not work. We have proven this many time, you guys will not take scientific data as proof. So we are left with little to no room to agree. I can still be passive agressive in self defense, but it won't fix anything. People are adopting my strategy, which is good because it means that this thread is radicalizing. But it's hopeless if we don't ALL find a way to talk to eachothers. Again, we are stuck togethers.
Now.. I THIiiiiNK .. even if I'm not sure, that there is a way for us to find a path. I know that it is possible for people to agree on stuff by starting from the bottom and simplest ideas in common. In the conversation we had with Hererra in the Revolution thread, I tried to come up with our most common denomitor... simple basic ethics and logic. And frankly, for now... it seems to be working. I feel like Hererra is taking the wrong message out of it.. but I felt a step forward.
We agreed MULTIPLE TIMES on something that is considered as HIGHLY radical.
So.. here, I'm being transparent about my intentions. I want to repeat that process. And find a way to make you understand my thinking. I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel like this is possible on some twisted level.
So I'll keep doing what I did, I'll try to develop a scenario based on real life situation, ask you small questions, ask you if you agree or not. And we will see if we can construct something if you are willing to participate.
This is not a unilateral process if you want you can do the same thing with me, but I have the feeling that the answer will surprise you more than your answers will surprise me.
Why ?
Because I believe that if you had ALL the experience and knowledge that I have (and I don't have a lot mind you..) you would be on the same page and you would be fighting far rightists just like I'm doing right now. We are not so different, our ideas are not some innate property, they are the result of our material conditions of existence. And I already had the material condition of existence that created conservatist and libertarian ideologies in the past. This is not something I can feel again.
So.. what I truly want to do..... is create a virtual place for you to experience the material conditions of existence that allow us (leftists) to think the way we think.
Let's bring back hope and kindness mates. Ok ?
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Anyway
@HerreraIsBack @NAMELESS @Ravagerblade and other people who think more or less like them.. or think that I'm some lunatic for some reason:
This post has one purpose : I want to show your transparency and tell you what my intentions are when talking to you.
In another context I wouldn't talk to you, I would in fact tell people not to talk to you. I believe that in another context, it would be dangerous, and unsafe for many people. But we are kinda stuck together here, gladly no people in difficult condition are coming and noone wants to leave. We have a choice. Either we fight until the end of Worstgen, or we find a way to reach something together. I know I come off as patronizing, agressive, stubborn, dumb for some also, idealist, and many other stuff..
So I'm telling you. I do not want to prove you wrong or to own you or to try to show that you are stupid. I believe none of that. What I'm trying to do is to bring you on my side. Because I know for a FACT that we are happier here. (in the sense that society is a lot less confusing). it's frustrating because our ennemy is bigger, but liberating!
I'm handicaped, I have a mental condition that make my life hell and yet.. I'm in paradize compared to the times where my mind was living in confusion, liberatarian and conservative ideas. I truly want you to feel that. and if I'm being really honest: If we find a way for us to work together, this means that there is hope outside of the division of our ideologies. Even through the horrors and the prejudice. So we need to find that key or we will fight mindlessly.
But I don't have many tools. Being nice and explaining things simply by argumentations do not work. Same for facts, they do not work. We have proven this many time, you guys will not take scientific data as proof. So we are left with little to no room to agree. I can still be passive agressive in self defense, but it won't fix anything. People are adopting my strategy, which is good because it means that this thread is radicalizing. But it's hopeless if we don't ALL find a way to talk to eachothers. Again, we are stuck togethers.
Now.. I THIiiiiNK .. even if I'm not sure, that there is a way for us to find a path. I know that it is possible for people to agree on stuff by starting from the bottom and simplest ideas in common. In the conversation we had with Hererra in the Revolution thread, I tried to come up with our most common denomitor... simple basic ethics and logic. And frankly, for now... it seems to be working. I feel like Hererra is taking the wrong message out of it.. but I felt a step forward.
We agreed MULTIPLE TIMES on something that is considered as HIGHLY radical.
So.. here, I'm being transparent about my intentions. I want to repeat that process. And find a way to make you understand my thinking. I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel like this is possible on some twisted level.
So I'll keep doing what I did, I'll try to develop a scenario based on real life situation, ask you small questions, ask you if you agree or not. And we will see if we can construct something if you are willing to participate.
This is not a unilateral process if you want you can do the same thing with me, but I have the feeling that the answer will surprise you more than your answers will surprise me.
Why ?
Because I believe that if you had ALL the experience and knowledge that I have (and I don't have a lot mind you..) you would be on the same page and you would be fighting far rightists just like I'm doing right now. We are not so different, our ideas are not some innate property, they are the result of our material conditions of existence. And I already had the material condition of existence that created conservatist and libertarian ideologies in the past. This is not something I can feel again.
So.. what I truly want to do..... is create a virtual place for you to experience the material conditions of existence that allow us (leftists) to think the way we think.
Let's bring back hope and kindness mates. Ok ?
Go so your research. I belive it was talked in here as well and you even admitted that your side is the most sad one. There are researches saying that.
And also...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKTBh8Ly57R/?igsh=YjVlMG00ODN4Mm9p
And also...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKTBh8Ly57R/?igsh=YjVlMG00ODN4Mm9p
I'll try that
Me and my side and you are your side... We have two very different vision of happiness and what being alive means. From my point of view, you are a very VERY VEEEEEEEEEERRRRYYY SAD person! You can smile all you want, but I know what you believe in and your vision of the world is full of hatred, disdain, confused thoughts about the mechanisms of the world and of course... essentialisms.
I might be frustrated, I might be very angry at a lot of things in the world. But I love, I love so much!
Our side is full of depression and handicaped people, this is true. But this is not because we lack happiness, on the contrary. Our vision is full of hope, it's what we fight for. Out line of sigh is the sun, the horizon, a free from oppression utopia.
But you ? You can't even see anything past capitalism. You might be imagining a world without a state, but this world is not a collective world, it's an capitalistic individualistic one. It's grey, it's full of concrete. It's a world where the law of the strong reign suprem, where tribes will form to compete against eachothers in a game of free market of nothingness. It's the land of the dictators and the fascists.
It's tasteless, hopeless, without creativity, without love.
It's the world of those you gave up dreaming.
You think you can compete with our multidimensionnal rainbow of a dream? You think you can even rival our knowledge of the structural wonders that is the social world ? You think you can hope more than people who smiles while starving ?
Think again mate. You can't even grasp how lively we really are.
Now.. I'm inviting you in. It's up to you to allow yourself a little bit of hope for a change.
Aside from the text inside of it, the video is actually beautiful! But that's something you can only understand if already are or went through a precarious situation
What this video doesn't tell you, since it was probably made by someone who is not in that kind of situation and never lived the HARDCORE life of the streets. Is that this man at the end, know very well the cost of not taking. Because where most people are usually benefiting from helps, this man is black.
In a western society this means that this man has a sociological inferior status than anyother in this video. People will not stop to give him money, people will not help him find opportunities.. instead this man has high risks to be arrested by the police because he will make a little bit too much noise or step into the wrong street.
So this man lives not with the rules of white people, but with the laws of the marginalized populations where, if you don't take what is given, you die.
You see, people in needs don't blame others for wanting to survive. We do not wank ourselves on videos of poor people who are just doing what poor people usually do which is giving especially not to be racist. Those - like me - who are the most priviledged of the bunch GIVE for those who can't afford to spare or to ignore, because contrary to you, we understand how hard it can become and how scary it is.
When a person takes everything like that, it's not because they are bad, it's because they need it!!
I'm sorry if I came as a bit passive agressive here, I found your racist video really distasteful.
On top of that, it might be good for you, instead of looking at how many black men are taking all the food in a video, to look at the number of disabled people who actually went for that food. Maybe it will show you a truth you are denying about capitalism.
Me and my side and you are your side... We have two very different vision of happiness and what being alive means. From my point of view, you are a very VERY VEEEEEEEEEERRRRYYY SAD person! You can smile all you want, but I know what you believe in and your vision of the world is full of hatred, disdain, confused thoughts about the mechanisms of the world and of course... essentialisms.
I might be frustrated, I might be very angry at a lot of things in the world. But I love, I love so much!
Our side is full of depression and handicaped people, this is true. But this is not because we lack happiness, on the contrary. Our vision is full of hope, it's what we fight for. Out line of sigh is the sun, the horizon, a free from oppression utopia.
But you ? You can't even see anything past capitalism. You might be imagining a world without a state, but this world is not a collective world, it's an capitalistic individualistic one. It's grey, it's full of concrete. It's a world where the law of the strong reign suprem, where tribes will form to compete against eachothers in a game of free market of nothingness. It's the land of the dictators and the fascists.
It's tasteless, hopeless, without creativity, without love.
It's the world of those you gave up dreaming.
You think you can compete with our multidimensionnal rainbow of a dream? You think you can even rival our knowledge of the structural wonders that is the social world ? You think you can hope more than people who smiles while starving ?
Think again mate. You can't even grasp how lively we really are.
Now.. I'm inviting you in. It's up to you to allow yourself a little bit of hope for a change.
Aside from the text inside of it, the video is actually beautiful! But that's something you can only understand if already are or went through a precarious situation
What this video doesn't tell you, since it was probably made by someone who is not in that kind of situation and never lived the HARDCORE life of the streets. Is that this man at the end, know very well the cost of not taking. Because where most people are usually benefiting from helps, this man is black.
In a western society this means that this man has a sociological inferior status than anyother in this video. People will not stop to give him money, people will not help him find opportunities.. instead this man has high risks to be arrested by the police because he will make a little bit too much noise or step into the wrong street.
So this man lives not with the rules of white people, but with the laws of the marginalized populations where, if you don't take what is given, you die.
You see, people in needs don't blame others for wanting to survive. We do not wank ourselves on videos of poor people who are just doing what poor people usually do which is giving especially not to be racist. Those - like me - who are the most priviledged of the bunch GIVE for those who can't afford to spare or to ignore, because contrary to you, we understand how hard it can become and how scary it is.
When a person takes everything like that, it's not because they are bad, it's because they need it!!
I'm sorry if I came as a bit passive agressive here, I found your racist video really distasteful.
On top of that, it might be good for you, instead of looking at how many black men are taking all the food in a video, to look at the number of disabled people who actually went for that food. Maybe it will show you a truth you are denying about capitalism.
A 17 year old is almost an adult come on. Of course a 30 year old dating a 17 year old is a pervert, but I would not call him a pedophile, unless all the people that watch porn marketed as "teen" are pedophiles.
It's not like when you are 18 you magically have a transformation, there are plenty of 20+ year old with a brain of a child.
Just to add, in many European countries the age of consent is 16, are all europeans pedophiles?
It's not like when you are 18 you magically have a transformation, there are plenty of 20+ year old with a brain of a child.
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Man, if you find yourself splitting hairs just to defend banging teenagers, you’ve really lost the plot…unless you’re one yourself, what is the appeal of going after underage minors? Having the brain of a child is one thing; desiring the body of one is another. 16 is also the age of consent in plenty of American states, but it’s still considered statutory if you’re above 21; it’s a minimum requirement, not the target age range. I guess I take for granted that most people in here are on the younger side, but it’s still wild to see y’all doing these mental gymnastics just so you can feel better about having to rob the cradle in the pursuit of getting laid 
Man, if you find yourself splitting hairs just to defend banging teenagers, you’ve really lost the plot…unless you’re one yourself, what is the appeal of going after underage minors? Having the brain of a child is one thing; desiring the body of one is another. 16 is also the age of consent in plenty of American states, but it’s still considered statutory if you’re above 21; it’s a minimum requirement, not the target age range. I guess I take for granted that most people in here are on the younger side, but it’s still wild to see y’all doing these mental gymnastics just so you can feel better about having to rob the cradle in the pursuit of getting laid
Yeah, and in English, you talked about how it’s all right to get involved with teenagers because you think their mental age supersedes their physical development, which itself is an asinine position. Are y’all really so incapable of attracting people your own age that this is the only viable option?? 