Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

When I posted that meme I thought "Logiko’s gonna get mad at me" Then I realized I was actually in the OP chapter thread, not the politics thread.

It cracked me up how this thread has basically fried my brain, so posted about it here, and it turned into exactly what I’d imagined, with Logiko getting mad at me

So distasteful smh @Logiko get him

 

[Zenos7]

antifascism is historically a set of action against fascism. As such, to be antifascist, you need more than just explain that you are against or opposed to fascism, you need to adopt behaviors and do some actions against it.

ok so you clearly dont understand that antifa = antifascist action

 

[Akai2]

yes please

I have 0 stamina to explain the self evident lol

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I haven't seen you before, but reading some of your takes, you'll start some spicy conversations around here

He’s a self-proclaimed Nazi, my guy

 

[Zenos7]

He’s a self-proclaimed Nazi, my guy

fake news

 

[Jew D. Boy]

fake news

As usual, “fake news” = “direct quote”

I am far right, and would probably be considered a Nazi here

 

[Zenos7]

As usual, “fake news” = “direct quote”

"i would be considered a nazi here"
=/=
"i am a nazi"

so fucking lame my guy

 

[Logiko]

you still, multiple times, tried to make it seem like antifa just means antifascism. well it doesnt. mind your words better next time, then i dont have to call you out. if you understand that it is a movement beyond just simple antifascism, then thats great.

and its quite funny, because im not speaking on this topic because i disagree with you lmao. i do agree on alot of things with you, and even occasionally like some posts of yours. there is absolutely nothing wrong with anything i said on this topic of antifa. and tbh on abortion i dont even have a strong opinion, usually people call me a fence-sitter on that one lmao.

and iirc it was you who didnt get that eugenics is about heritable traits, so that one is out the window as well.

and maybe you arent the grown up if a mild disagreement about how you phrase yourself when talking about antifa makes you cram out all the topics you remembered that we had disagreements about lmao.

and me laughing at this quote from you "I'm saying that you can't be antifascist and be right wing. You can be against fascism if you are right wing" is totally warranted because of how utterly retarded this statement is.

Being against fascism makes you antifascist. like, using words cant get simpler than this. so if you supposedly unterstand that antifa stands for the political movement "antifascist action", how you dont understand that being against fascism makes you antifascist is beyond me.

you are clearly not up for talks between grown-ups, so kindly fuck off and reflect a little before you throw around emtpy accusations again because your little fweelings got hurt.

It means antifascism. Antifascism means antifascism. Which is the action of acting against fascism > ergo > antifascist actions as the first antifa group was firstly named. Antifa means being an antifascist : being against and ACTING against fascism.

Which is.. as I explained earlier, not possible for rightist as rightism is a step FOR fascism to walk on. Not something that can fight it.

Learn about this please. I'm tired of constantly trying to explain you contextual data because you can't look away from a dictionnary.

issue is logiko doesnt use words as they are intended. he just makes up shit and if you dont agree then you
1) dont understand his profound wisdom
2) are a transphobe,fascist,homophobe,racist,whatever

I used words as they should > With the knowledge of contextual informations and not through the lens of a big book that is meant to give you basic and unchecked biased informations. (dictionnaries).

If you understood this simple nuance, you would understand why you are constantly trying to contradict me and why I'm constantly saying the same thing : stop looking at definition, use contextual informations and x knowledge.

Neither. I didn't laugh at what happened to Shakky.

There was a popular meme where a rapper was reading a "Women deserve less" book, and includes a lot of anti women lyrics in his songs. So when I read the scene, I thought it would be funny to rework that meme to include sommers instead of the rapper, which made me laugh. Has nothing to actually do with SHakky.

Allow me to talk to you a little bit about humor. Humor can be oppressive or it can be inclusive.

Here, if we simplify, the purpose of this humor is to you laugh because a man who slapped a woman actually read a sexist book. Which ... is not really funny in itself unless we think it's funny that sexist men beat women. As here is the catch > This meme could perfectly be read by a sexist man just as funnily as you did. So what does this means?

The reality is that the action is not questionned, we are supposed to laugh because the man is sexist, but no one is telling us why it is sexist. We laugh because there was a woman beaten in the first place. This therefore puts not only the man, but the woman as a subject of the joke here.

This is what we call oppressive humor as it negates and strongly exclude the victim of such act from being able to laugh with you (women in that instance)

This is usually edgy and right wing humor.

Here is how you can improve this by including and laughing with the victim and centring the subject of the joke on the sexist man

I kept your picture. I simply reframed it twice. For me, this is sweater anda lot funnier that what you gave me.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

"i would be considered a nazi here"
=/=
"i am a nazi"

so fucking lame my guy

American culture warrior

 

[Zenos7]

It means antifascism.

no it doesnt. its short for "antifascist action" and is a political movement.

antifascism is not the same as the political movement "antifascist action".

seriously im not going to bother to read the rest of your post

 

[Akai2]

He’s a self-proclaimed Nazi, my guy

I only saw his argument with Reborn and Monkey D Theories on immigration, I disagree with him on that btw.

Just to give him the benefit of the doubt, based on the quote you posted, he's saying people here would consider him a Nazi, not that he's claiming to be one. Of course if he is or does, he won't be around for long because Al will ban him to Mars lol

 

[Jew D. Boy]

"i would be considered a nazi here"
=/=
"i am a nazi"

so fucking lame my guy

“People would consider me a Nazi” is not the kind of thing said by people who AREN’T Nazis, but I’m sorry I apparently struck a nerve by even mentioning them, I guess I made you tell on yourself too

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I only saw his argument with Reborn and Monkey D Theories on immigration, I disagree with him on that btw.

Just to give him the benefit of the doubt, based on the quote you posted, he's saying people here would consider him a Nazi, not that he's claiming to be one. Of course if he is or does, he won't be around for long because Al will ban him to Mars lol

See above 👆

 

[Akai2]

Allow me to talk to you a little bit about humor. Humor can be oppressive or it can be inclusive.

Here, if we simplify, the purpose of this humor is to you laugh because a man who slapped a woman actually read a sexist book. Which ... is not really funny in itself unless we think it's funny that sexist men beat women. As here is the catch > This meme could perfectly be read by a sexist man just as funnily as you did. So what does this means?

The reality is that the action is not questionned, we are supposed to laugh because the man is sexist, but no one is telling us why it is sexist. We laugh because there was a woman beaten in the first place. This therefore puts not only the man, but the woman as a subject of the joke here.

This is what we call oppressive humor as it negates and strongly exclude the victim of such act from being able to laugh with you (women in that instance)

This is usually edgy and right wing humor.

Here is how you can improve this by including and laughing with the victim and centring the subject of the joke on the sexist man

I kept your picture. I simply reframed it twice. For me, this is sweater anda lot funnier that what you gave me.

Jesus man you must be a hoot at parties lmao

 

[Zenos7]

“People would consider me a Nazi” is not the kind of thing said by people who AREN’T Nazis, but I’m sorry I apparently struck a nerve by even mentioning them, I guess I made you tell on yourself too

seriously dude, i usually like you, but then you pump out stupid ass posts like these.

I used to be very active in the politics section on fanverse(narutoforums) and this one, and i've seen idiots like you and logiko call people nazis that were very far from actually being nazis. emphasis on the bolded part. you are an alright dude, but sometimes this partisan bullshit makes you lose your goddamn mind holy fuck.

btw im a migrant living in germany voting left/green parties and actual nazis are a potential danger for me.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Allow me to talk to you a little bit about humor. Humor can be oppressive or it can be inclusive.

Here, if we simplify, the purpose of this humor is to you laugh because a man who slapped a woman actually read a sexist book. Which ... is not really funny in itself unless we think it's funny that sexist men beat women. As here is the catch > This meme could perfectly be read by a sexist man just as funnily as you did. So what does this means?

The reality is that the action is not questionned, we are supposed to laugh because the man is sexist, but no one is telling us why it is sexist. We laugh because there was a woman beaten in the first place. This therefore puts not only the man, but the woman as a subject of the joke here.

This is what we call oppressive humor as it negates and strongly exclude the victim of such act from being able to laugh with you (women in that instance)

This is usually edgy and right wing humor.

For a French guy you seem to know surprisingly little of the nature of satire

Akai2 framed Sommers as a sexist in his meme.
He's not condoning sexism or gender based violence.
My God loosen up a little. You're like those traditional Christians with a stick in their rear, but the opposite political leaning.

 

[Zenos7]

Just to give him the benefit of the doubt, based on the quote you posted, he's saying people here would consider him a Nazi, not that he's claiming to be one. Of course if he is or does, he won't be around for long because Al will ban him to Mars lol

and tbh, the context behind that post of his was basically "if you call charlie kirk a nazi, then you would probably call me one as well".

like, going from that to claiming he proclaimed himself as a nazi is an outright and shameful lie.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

you are an alright dude, but sometimes this partisan bullshit makes you lose your goddamn mind holy fuck.

Americans
Their politics are so polarized it's almost impossible for them to develop nuanced thoughts even IF they are well intended.

 

[Akai2]

See above 👆

I understand your point, but I've used it before. For example I remember once saying "Logiko is the type of guy who would call me a Nazi if I disagree with him on 2 out of 100 points". So I think he was using it in that context.

Let's see how it goes because people tend to go crazy in here anyway, so he'll get nuked by AL if he's legit spreading white supremacy or Nazi propaganda.

 

[Zenos7]

My God loosen up a little. You're like those traditional Christians which have a stick in their rear, but the opposite political leaning.

lmao i have a friend who in his youth wasnt allowed to listen to bands like "Black sabbath" solely due to their name.
(they were seventh day adventists)

 

[Jew D. Boy]

seriously dude, i usually like you, but then you pump out stupid ass posts like these.

I used to be very active in the politics section on fanverse(narutoforums) and this one, and i've seen idiots like you and logiko call people nazis that were very far from actually being nazis. emphasis on the bolded part. you are an alright dude, but sometimes this partisan bullshit makes you lose your goddamn mind holy fuck.

btw im a migrant living in germany voting left/green parties and actual nazis are a potential danger for me.

Yeah, I’m in America, so they’re a fucking threat to me too
Find another example of me wantonly calling someone a Nazi, because I have definitely addressed this before

I mean, I called that Roku guy one because he openly admitted that he could be identified that way, you don’t see me throwing that word around at anyone without good cause; I know I call people racists, but that’s usually after they either say something overtly bigoted or defend other shmucks who say much worse, I don’t just jump straight to “Nazi” because I disagree with them

And honestly, I don’t really give a shit if you like me because we agree on a handful of things, I’d rather you hate my guts if being friendly means you wanna wrap your arms around a professed white supremacist while chiding me like a fucking schoolmarm