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Logiko was talking about pedophilia as a concept, this conversation was never about actual criminals?
So pedophilia(the attraction itself) isn’t a crime? Congrats, you’re like 5 arguments behind
yes another if. Have you ever taken a philosophy class? We test our ethical and moral bases with hypotheticals. Is this too high level for you to engage with?
Yes it’s not against the law to jerk off non consensually to other people. Congrats you finally realize why your previous consent argument was stupid. Pretty of heterosexual and homosexual people participate in legal non consensual activity that doesn’t require two people of the same/other gender.
comparisons are not equating lmao. If I say x is similar to y because the implication is that they’re different to begin with. I’m pointing out similarities which is what every fucking psychiatrist does with pedophilia because point of references exist lmao
You assign moral or ethical weight to comparisons, that’s your mistake. When people in sciences compare things they don’t say which one is good or bad.
So pedophilia(the attraction itself) isn’t a crime? Congrats, you’re like 5 arguments behind
yes another if. Have you ever taken a philosophy class? We test our ethical and moral bases with hypotheticals. Is this too high level for you to engage with?
Yes it’s not against the law to jerk off non consensually to other people. Congrats you finally realize why your previous consent argument was stupid. Pretty of heterosexual and homosexual people participate in legal non consensual activity that doesn’t require two people of the same/other gender.
comparisons are not equating lmao. If I say x is similar to y because the implication is that they’re different to begin with. I’m pointing out similarities which is what every fucking psychiatrist does with pedophilia because point of references exist lmao
You assign moral or ethical weight to comparisons, that’s your mistake. When people in sciences compare things they don’t say which one is good or bad.
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I was rather talking about the overall oppressions that are adultism, patriarchy and therefore pedophilia as a whole.
When we talk about pedophilia, we talk about two things:
- The passive attraction
- The action on a victim
For the first case, I'm not even sure you can call it "an attraction". We are talkin about a person who snapped a barrier, someone who jumped completely over a taboo. Therefore said taboo does not exist anymore for them, you can't "heal" it. It's not about pulsions, or incompresible desires, it's simply the spectra of what is forbidden that was extended over a limit that is non acceptable.
The second case is based on the same thing BUT it is also an action of agression. Just like the other, it's not an illness, and it's not a pulsion. It's the action of a person, usually a man, who abused their power consciously. This is power. This is domination. Something all powerfull men without restrictions will do.
Pedophilia must be countered and denounced and we must stop deresponsibilizing the perpetuators by pathologizing them. This will only get us so far.. This behavior has to be understood within the intersections of the systems of domination (patriarchy and adultism) that allow these behaviors to happen. Only that way we can really stop it from happening.
When we talk about pedophilia, we talk about two things:
- The passive attraction
- The action on a victim
For the first case, I'm not even sure you can call it "an attraction". We are talkin about a person who snapped a barrier, someone who jumped completely over a taboo. Therefore said taboo does not exist anymore for them, you can't "heal" it. It's not about pulsions, or incompresible desires, it's simply the spectra of what is forbidden that was extended over a limit that is non acceptable.
The second case is based on the same thing BUT it is also an action of agression. Just like the other, it's not an illness, and it's not a pulsion. It's the action of a person, usually a man, who abused their power consciously. This is power. This is domination. Something all powerfull men without restrictions will do.
Pedophilia must be countered and denounced and we must stop deresponsibilizing the perpetuators by pathologizing them. This will only get us so far.. This behavior has to be understood within the intersections of the systems of domination (patriarchy and adultism) that allow these behaviors to happen. Only that way we can really stop it from happening.
I'm only just now seeing the Ayatollah news and gotta say, that's really fucking embarrassing if he's dead and they're just trying to pretend he's not.
I'm not surprised to see that his assumption of what was being said wasn't accurate. Guy seems really into his own understandings.
I have not evoked morals once. As I said, my job is to determine based on this exact behavior. And yes, I got in A in community college, philosophy is a fuck off class lol
What are you actually referencing when you talk about psychiatry?
I'm not surprised to see that his assumption of what was being said wasn't accurate. Guy seems really into his own understandings.
I have not evoked morals once. As I said, my job is to determine based on this exact behavior. And yes, I got in A in community college, philosophy is a fuck off class lol
What are you actually referencing when you talk about psychiatry?
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its not commie brain rot, its a bit of i told you so in terms of what the new administration said they weren't going to do but did anyway.
i think a lot of people just struggle with accepting both things can be true .
At its core liberalism is about punching upward and america being the imperialist nation here that will be one of the takeaways but within iran itself, the people who did that to what they felt was an oppressive government were getting killed and that is also unacceptable.
i think a lot of people just struggle with accepting both things can be true .
At its core liberalism is about punching upward and america being the imperialist nation here that will be one of the takeaways but within iran itself, the people who did that to what they felt was an oppressive government were getting killed and that is also unacceptable.
Brother, the only lost in the sauce here is you lol. Even Van understood my point when we initially had a misunderstanding.
You are moral loading when you try to say I "equate" things or when you overreacted when you didn't understand what comparisons are for. And if you took a class the concept of engaging in hypotheticals and testing them shouldn't be foreign to you
https://jaapl.org/content/42/4/404
https://www.merckmanuals.com/profes...-and-paraphilic-disorders/pedophilic-disorder
Just google, it is generally agreed that pedophilia ( the attraction towards minor) is a disorder.
The issue with political brain rot is that it's never about principle but "whose side is X or Y on?" If you're a principled person you can say you dislike Trump, but not cry about every single decision he makes. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Ignoring the cries of Persian people being slaughtered and their diaspora chanting for freedom, because something something "Israel" or "American Empire", is not just brain rot but evil. Everyone has the right to live in a normal democracy, including people in the Middle East.
Ignoring the cries of Persian people being slaughtered and their diaspora chanting for freedom, because something something "Israel" or "American Empire", is not just brain rot but evil. Everyone has the right to live in a normal democracy, including people in the Middle East.