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We are a social specie, meaning that we can't function correctly when we are on our own (physically and sociologically), knowing that:
- The right wants to individualize the system
- The left wants to collectivize the system
Which system should work the best in your opinion?
- The right wants to individualize the system
- The left wants to collectivize the system
Which system should work the best in your opinion?
the system that takes the innovation of the left and colonization of the right
but I am not talking about colonization in a sense of expansionism and imperialism, but rather one that brings out the earth's ressources to the limits, not beyond those limits. so it has to be sustainable.
they say the world can carry 16 billion peeps if we want to. I don't believe in any fixed number, but I believe we are close to hitting our limits in the current system. the system needs to rapidly advance in order to sustain more, integrate more and have less genocids or euthanization programs running.
Which is precisely why I’m saying that liberals - who we agree are also only in the game for themselves and don’t give a shit about properly representing their constituents - do a better job of feigning austerity than the conservatives who have fully gone mask-off with their incredibly bigotry and disregard for anyone else’s well-being 
Yeah. Well I'm asking about the social, economic and cultural capital the child has access to. As they will influence which side the child will chose in the debate
as a 30+ gen guy I am looking at the teenagers of the current day and age and I see they are clearly degenerating which is sad. so I hope that the next generation we bring to life will be better than that, and in the end it is up to us to educate that new generation. it's part of the cycle of life and rebirth that is based in hinduism. shout outs to our oriental fellas for cracking the system millenias ago.
You are on the verge of following the path of either marxism or far right techno-libertarianism. Right now you are bending toward the right. Careful. The way you will take your next political steps will be decisive.
Ask me the right question and you shall receive the right answers.
Do you really think a child even young can't understand the concept of social, gender or racial classes on a fundamental level ?
Ask me the right question and you shall receive the right answers.
Do you really think a child even young can't understand the concept of social, gender or racial classes on a fundamental level ?
You can't decide which path I follow is funny. That is the point of being a wildcard player like a true philopolitcal centrist.
I am personally also interested in genology and deep evolution-based history. It holds more keys to answers than what's told on the superficial level, don't you think so too?
It's a metaphor if you didn't realize yet lol. The child clearly can't decide for themselves, especially because the current system we are living in.
What I noticed is: Smart Phones become more mandatory in schools nowadays. In germany every child has a smartphone and is part of class group chats.
Another thing that's just crazy, now that you mentioned gender roles. Mothers that are posing with their daughters on social media making scantily clad pictures is the way to generate clicks and grab money deals? I don't think that should be the way and it hurts traditional and more efficient values for humanities evolution.
Feminism is another thing that's a despicable tool utilized by the leftist lobbies to control the population. Sad but true. The worst thing is that the rightist lobbies can utilize this too to their advantages, which is just a terrible clusterfuck going, and it happens everywhere with Veganism, Transgenderism and Feminism.
We should go back to our traditional values and things like global depression epidemics would be drastically reduced. But nope...instead of doing that the rich lobbies are firing up those issues, keeping the fires of destruction in tact. And that's what needs to be understood here. The left are not as innocent as a political camp as some people might think.
I am personally also interested in genology and deep evolution-based history. It holds more keys to answers than what's told on the superficial level, don't you think so too?
It's a metaphor if you didn't realize yet lol. The child clearly can't decide for themselves, especially because the current system we are living in.
What I noticed is: Smart Phones become more mandatory in schools nowadays. In germany every child has a smartphone and is part of class group chats.
Another thing that's just crazy, now that you mentioned gender roles. Mothers that are posing with their daughters on social media making scantily clad pictures is the way to generate clicks and grab money deals? I don't think that should be the way and it hurts traditional and more efficient values for humanities evolution.
Feminism is another thing that's a despicable tool utilized by the leftist lobbies to control the population. Sad but true. The worst thing is that the rightist lobbies can utilize this too to their advantages, which is just a terrible clusterfuck going, and it happens everywhere with Veganism, Transgenderism and Feminism.
We should go back to our traditional values and things like global depression epidemics would be drastically reduced. But nope...instead of doing that the rich lobbies are firing up those issues, keeping the fires of destruction in tact. And that's what needs to be understood here. The left are not as innocent as a political camp as some people might think.
Being a wildcard is an illusion mate.
You are bending like everybody else. In fact, the more you will think that you are not bending, the more likely you will be to bend. Trust me. I know from experience.
It's only one part of the puzzle. There are multiple part. Looking at evolution and genetics to explain human societies is like trying to understand physic and mathematics by analysing janga matches.
I'm not talking about deciding anything. I'm talking about understanding social, gender and racial classes. Do you think a child can do that?
Good.
"centrist"... but more rightist, got it
Lmao see my previous answer
You are bending like everybody else. In fact, the more you will think that you are not bending, the more likely you will be to bend. Trust me. I know from experience.
It's only one part of the puzzle. There are multiple part. Looking at evolution and genetics to explain human societies is like trying to understand physic and mathematics by analysing janga matches.
I'm not talking about deciding anything. I'm talking about understanding social, gender and racial classes. Do you think a child can do that?
Good.
"centrist"... but more rightist, got it
Lmao see my previous answer
Being a wildcard is an illusion mate.
You are bending like everybody else. In fact, the more you will think that you are not bending, the more likely you will be to bend. Trust me. I know from experience.
It's only one part of the puzzle. There are multiple part. Looking at evolution and genetics to explain human societies is like trying to understand physic and mathematics by analysing janga matches.
I'm not talking about deciding anything. I'm talking about understanding social, gender and racial classes. Do you think a child can do that?
Good.
"centrist"... but more rightist, got it
Lmao see my previous answer
You are bending like everybody else. In fact, the more you will think that you are not bending, the more likely you will be to bend. Trust me. I know from experience.
It's only one part of the puzzle. There are multiple part. Looking at evolution and genetics to explain human societies is like trying to understand physic and mathematics by analysing janga matches.
I'm not talking about deciding anything. I'm talking about understanding social, gender and racial classes. Do you think a child can do that?
Good.
"centrist"... but more rightist, got it
Lmao see my previous answer
I mean partially I am and partially I am not. What other options do I have?
If I go to the doctor and he treats me sloppily just because of multiple factors involved which are out of my powers, then all I can do is bending the knee to that and treat myself as best as possible. What other option would I have here?
No I'm mean ideologically bending. The concept of adopting a beliefs system through social pressure.
We are all bending, you like everybody else. But the more you will believe you are not bending, the more likely you will bend.
What option do you have ? The option to listen to me and bend to the left and ethics or the option to listen to your biases and bend toward the right and oppression. Right now, you are bending big time on the right.
We are all bending, you like everybody else. But the more you will believe you are not bending, the more likely you will bend.
What option do you have ? The option to listen to me and bend to the left and ethics or the option to listen to your biases and bend toward the right and oppression. Right now, you are bending big time on the right.
bro wtf are you talking about??
what do you want me to do? vote left? I already did that, still waiting for results. Still noone who seeks out dialogue with russia.
I am bending towards noone. If one site is right, then they are right and that's information and wisdom. It always bounces between left and right. With some things the left are correct and with some things the right are correct. Without one the other wouldn't exist. We need balance and coexistence and not extremification in both directions.
@Logiko you are a product of left extrimistic rich lobbies that want you to see the right wing as an existential threat, because they are afraid that you could see something inside there or see the rift between the right and left which is a more liberal center.
You need to desperately wake up and distance yourself from the extreme left. The void, that's the center that's left to be filled. We have alot of volume to fill before we can thin out the extremes on the spectrum. You should wake up tbh.
You need to desperately wake up and distance yourself from the extreme left. The void, that's the center that's left to be filled. We have alot of volume to fill before we can thin out the extremes on the spectrum. You should wake up tbh.
Hm.. the way you are talking tells me that there is probably no left to vote for in your country or rather a very depoliticized left. Probably a country where the far right is in power or close to power, when the neoliberal center has been ruling for a long time? You tell me.
We are always bending toward someone or opposed to someone.
Information is always contextual, if you do not know the context, how do you make sure the information is right. For example, you have said a lot of wrong things since the beginning of our discussion.
Do not make the error to think that what you believe in can't be influenced. Even scientists know that science can be biased in our current day and age.
This looks like a moral statement to me. "We need balance because things needs balance" kind of a circular thinking if you ask me.
Tell me, what are the things you think the right is right about ?
Actually I'm a product of conspiracy theories. I was not always a leftist. I come from the right pal. I learned about my biases and I learned how to understand them. I learned just how bendy we are.
I learned that under the worst conditions, we can become the worst version of ourselves, but I also learned that with the right ones and the right tools, we can also learn to stray a path toward ethics and the understanding of the world.
The difference between me and you, mate, is that I know for a fact that it is impossible for me to think outside the box. And the reason for that is simple:
There is no box.
We are always bending toward someone or opposed to someone.
Information is always contextual, if you do not know the context, how do you make sure the information is right. For example, you have said a lot of wrong things since the beginning of our discussion.
Do not make the error to think that what you believe in can't be influenced. Even scientists know that science can be biased in our current day and age.
This looks like a moral statement to me. "We need balance because things needs balance" kind of a circular thinking if you ask me.
Tell me, what are the things you think the right is right about ?
Actually I'm a product of conspiracy theories. I was not always a leftist. I come from the right pal. I learned about my biases and I learned how to understand them. I learned just how bendy we are.
I learned that under the worst conditions, we can become the worst version of ourselves, but I also learned that with the right ones and the right tools, we can also learn to stray a path toward ethics and the understanding of the world.
The difference between me and you, mate, is that I know for a fact that it is impossible for me to think outside the box. And the reason for that is simple:
There is no box.
my socialistic and progressive theory is that EVERYONE in the world needs nuclear power, or people will be fucked
and we need fossil energy to make the transistion or we won't make it in time
the extreme right is not willing to cooperate on this so they cause the recent oil wars
while the extreme left is living in a delusion that green energy and last minute technological patching will be sufficient
so how would rej solve this problem: by helping the middle east so everyone there owns unlimited nuclear energy
this would massively increase the energy exports towards europe, asia and africa
but noone wants this so welp, might witness another decade of war there going on too
and we need fossil energy to make the transistion or we won't make it in time
the extreme right is not willing to cooperate on this so they cause the recent oil wars
while the extreme left is living in a delusion that green energy and last minute technological patching will be sufficient
so how would rej solve this problem: by helping the middle east so everyone there owns unlimited nuclear energy
this would massively increase the energy exports towards europe, asia and africa
but noone wants this so welp, might witness another decade of war there going on too
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