Everything is alt right rhetoric to you including leftism
I don't know what to say to you guys anymore. Its always the same rethoric: "everything you disagree with is alt right"...

No. Not everything.

But its not my fault if the alt right won the political discourse and managed to implement its rethoric far toward the left.

Talking about "woke politic" as a negative IS using far right rethoric. "Woke" is a word rebranded by the far right (it was a leftism term is the 60') to denounciate progressive ideas: LGBTQ+ right / leftism politics / Socialism etc.

So quit looking at me as if I were some bizarre enderman and look at the rethoric you are using.
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Yep. Many don't even know what counts as left or right nowadays. They just take the most stereotypically evil connations of whichever side they disagree with and throw it at cha.
It’s a clown show lol. People can’t look at an issue objectively nor think for themselves. The political space has become like sports except with far more cringe when the left and right fandoms clash.
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
It’s a clown show lol. People can’t look at an issue objectively nor think for themselves. The political space has become like sports except with far more cringe when the left and right fandoms clash.
Ah sports fans who barely know anything about their teams but fight after a game anyways. Good description lol.

As for politics, people are just obsessed with being seen a good person. How do you do that? Make everyone else look evil. Classic Claud Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame type of shit.
 
Ah sports fans who barely know anything about their teams but fight after a game anyways. Good description lol.

As for politics, people are just obsessed with being seen a good person. How do you do that? Make everyone else look evil. Classic Claud Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame type of shit.
It’s fitting, just look at the sports channels and their analysts, they aren’t any different from the political analysts and their channels. Then you got the teams, players and the competitions, all present in politics with the Senate votings, the championship with the presidency. You got analysts breaking down and reacting to the results of the finale lmao, fans breaking stuff when their side loses.

It’s all in smoke and mirrors to keep people occupied and distracted from actual realities of the world.
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
It’s fitting, just look at the sports channels and their analysts, they aren’t any different from the political analysts and their channels. Then you got the teams, players and the competitions, all present in politics with the Senate votings, the championship with the presidency. You got analysts breaking down and reacting to the results of the finale lmao, fans breaking stuff when their side loses.

It’s all in smoke and mirrors to keep people occupied and distracted from actual realities of the world.
Keep everyone angry and divided with a black n' white narrative. Guarantees lots of controversies which ultimately brings most of the viewership.

Get people screaming about Democrat vs Republican when both are right wing parties and pretty similar to each other. Get them screaming about Pro Life vs Pro Choice when the real goal is population control. Get the people screaming about Pro Gun vs Anti Gun when the goal is putting money in private organizations. Etc, etc.
 
So why ask for any research at all

It caN Be bIAs afTerAlL

Or is it only a convenient response when you don't wanna accept a peer reviewed research that goes against your delusions.
Leave them alone bro, you cant convince these creatures.
Its funny whenever I open this thread all I see is C4N, Toby D Dog and Admiral Maynad posting long ass texts with no substance.
They think they are students of Socrates or something :risitameh:

I wont say I am an expert, but apparently Greeks and Roman empires fell because of immorality, homosexuality and pedophilia.

Quoting some text and examples, but you can read from the links. But I guess guys from the west would know better about this.

"When the ruling group and the society as a whole relax their code (of sexual morality), within three generations there is usually a cultural decline, as was the case in the later stages of the Babylonian, the Persian, the Macedonian, the Mongol, the Greek, and the Roman civilizations...We find that among civilized societies those which have remained strict in their sexual codes for the longest period have reached the highest levels."
Full text: Link

"In 67, Nero married Sporus, a young boy who is said to have greatly resembled Poppaea. Nero had him castrated and married him with all the usual ceremonies, including a dowry and a bridal veil. It is believed that he did this out of regret for his killing of Poppaea."
Full text: Link

"Elagabalus was the definition of outrageous. A few examples include

  1. He would hang around the palace and solicit people passing by for sex
  2. He would supposedly work as a prostitute for fun
  3. He sent agents out to find men with large….. you know. The men with the largest “members” found themselves promoted to powerful political offices
  4. He would dress as a women
    1. The Romans were not a tolerant bunch- this was so far over the line it’s hard to even imagine
  5. He forced Romans to adopt and worship the Syrian sun god Elgabal.

More on this here: Link

But, but .. we are modern, it is progression... times have changed :ihaha:

:yurazclear:

Is it science or is it sociology? No, this is history b*tch. Go and read once at least:hapnoel:
 
Leave them alone bro, you cant convince these creatures.
Its funny whenever I open this thread all I see is C4N, Toby D Dog and Admiral Maynad posting long ass texts with no substance.
They think they are students of Socrates or something :risitameh:

I wont say I am an expert, but apparently Greeks and Roman empires fell because of immorality, homosexuality and pedophilia.

Quoting some text and examples, but you can read from the links. But I guess guys from the west would know better about this.

"When the ruling group and the society as a whole relax their code (of sexual morality), within three generations there is usually a cultural decline, as was the case in the later stages of the Babylonian, the Persian, the Macedonian, the Mongol, the Greek, and the Roman civilizations...We find that among civilized societies those which have remained strict in their sexual codes for the longest period have reached the highest levels."
Full text: Link

"In 67, Nero married Sporus, a young boy who is said to have greatly resembled Poppaea. Nero had him castrated and married him with all the usual ceremonies, including a dowry and a bridal veil. It is believed that he did this out of regret for his killing of Poppaea."
Full text: Link

"Elagabalus was the definition of outrageous. A few examples include

  1. He would hang around the palace and solicit people passing by for sex
  2. He would supposedly work as a prostitute for fun
  3. He sent agents out to find men with large….. you know. The men with the largest “members” found themselves promoted to powerful political offices
  4. He would dress as a women
    1. The Romans were not a tolerant bunch- this was so far over the line it’s hard to even imagine
  5. He forced Romans to adopt and worship the Syrian sun god Elgabal.

More on this here: Link

But, but .. we are modern, it is progression... times have changed :ihaha:

:yurazclear:

Is it science or is it sociology? No, this is history b*tch. Go and read once at least:hapnoel:
I'm done bro, there is no reasoning to be had here its just adhominem for having opinions or even stating facts.

History presents itself as a record of mistakes and we too stand as example of decline due to degeneracy.

"If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery and nudity common in the next generation." (Salahuddin Ayyubi).


And indeed Liberalism is nothing but just that, advocacy of degeneracy in current day and age if not instantly then indeed gradually. It Stands for existential slaughter of cultures, religions, and anything that alludes to red lines to freedom for the sake of human decency.
 
I'm done bro, there is no reasoning to be had here its just adhominem for having opinions or even stating facts.

History presents itself as a record of mistakes and we too stand as example of decline due to degeneracy.

"If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery and nudity common in the next generation." (Salahuddin Ayyubi).


And indeed Liberalism is nothing but just that, advocacy of degeneracy in current day and age if not instantly then indeed gradually. It Stands for existential slaughter of cultures, religions, and anything that alludes to red lines to freedom for the sake of human decency.
True, not only Roman and Greeks, the same thing happened with Mughal Empire.

Immorality comes when a nation/empire thinks that there is no economic or military related threat to them.
When you are not battling others, your battle with your "self/ Nafs (نَفْس)" starts.
This concept is foreign to westerners but we Muslims know its importance.
They think we dont understand what is going on.

The worf Nafs, was mentioned 298 times in Quran and highlights the importance of controlling it:
Wikipedia Link

Even if we dont make it about religion, the current mental health crises show us that people are not at peace with themselves.

But here, we know that it is fundamental to surrender your "will", control your Nafs, only then you will be at peace.

One of the links I shared above says that "You have no right to happiness".

And the science agree with this:

A growing body of research shows that the pursuit of happiness actually makes us miserable.
Link
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
I'm done bro, there is no reasoning to be had here its just adhominem for having opinions or even stating facts.

History presents itself as a record of mistakes and we too stand as example of decline due to degeneracy.

"If you want to destroy any nation without war, make adultery and nudity common in the next generation." (Salahuddin Ayyubi).


And indeed Liberalism is nothing but just that, advocacy of degeneracy in current day and age if not instantly then indeed gradually. It Stands for existential slaughter of cultures, religions, and anything that alludes to red lines to freedom for the sake of human decency.
Liberalism is allways born from good life.
 
True, not only Roman and Greeks, the same thing happened with Mughal Empire.

Immorality comes when a nation/empire thinks that there is no economic or military related threat to them.
When you are not battling others, your battle with your "self/ Nafs (نَفْس)" starts.
This concept is foreign to westerners but we Muslims know its importance.
They think we dont understand what is going on.

The worf Nafs, was mentioned 298 times in Quran and highlights the importance of controlling it:
Wikipedia Link

Even if we dont make it about religion, the current mental health crises show us that people are not at peace with themselves.

But here, we know that it is fundamental to surrender your "will", control your Nafs, only then you will be at peace.

One of the links I shared above says that "You have no right to happiness".

And the science agree with this:

A growing body of research shows that the pursuit of happiness actually makes us miserable.
Link
True, it goes back to our nature if you go down the rabbit hole and what we pertain our existence and happiness to, Ie: what we chain ourselves to pursue it.

Some do it with money, women, pleasure, anf family. At the end everyone submits to somehting to pursue happiness and comfort.

This is what people mean when they say.. We live to be happy and blissful

Science just gives you naturalistic variables there is no wonder why atheists take science as their bible.

liberalism literally makes it worser by trivialising happiness to pleasure and physical needs..and doing so it twists what people mean by happiness which is such a broad term jam packed with nuances.


To us..we submit to God who is the source of peace and ultimately any happiness

those who have faith and whose hearts find peace in the remembrance of God- truly it is in the remembrance of God that hearts find peace- (quran 13:28)


And there is a difference between those who submit to transient happiness and those who submit to the source of it.
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Liberalism is allways born from good life.
May you elaborate on that?
 
Ah sports fans who barely know anything about their teams but fight after a game anyways. Good description lol.

As for politics, people are just obsessed with being seen a good person. How do you do that? Make everyone else look evil. Classic Claud Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame type of shit.
If y’all have ever read the book, Claude Frollo isn’t that bad of a guy.

His parents die when he is young and he takes care of his younger brother. Quasimodo was abandoned at the church and he adopts him because Quasi reminds him of his younger brother(they’re both orphans).
 
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