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I don't know about that. They probably don't give any single fuck about anything. There isn't a thing they don't make fun of. Being slaughtered by retards didn't stop them from continuing. And they're a good example of what total free speech looks like. They won't get "cancelled" as long as the republic exists.
This isn't very true. The French do not even read this paper ! This isn't "French humor" or whatever people call it.
They're just challenging the limits of freedom of speech. They got fined many times for going overboard and getting into "illegal territory" after all.
This isn't very true. The French do not even read this paper ! This isn't "French humor" or whatever people call it.
They're just challenging the limits of freedom of speech. They got fined many times for going overboard and getting into "illegal territory" after all.
I was reading up on it a lot.
I think i've come to the conclusion that there is no real solution to the Arab/Israeli conflict.
The radical zionists want to destroy the palestinians and put all of Israel under jewish control.
The anti-zionists want israel to be wiped off the face of the earth, disregarding the reasons why Jews wanted to create israel to begin with.
The only way the conflict would end is if there was some sort of mutual trust between Palestinians and Israelis, which there probably will never be because they've hated each other for the past 100 years.
I think i've come to the conclusion that there is no real solution to the Arab/Israeli conflict.
The radical zionists want to destroy the palestinians and put all of Israel under jewish control.
The anti-zionists want israel to be wiped off the face of the earth, disregarding the reasons why Jews wanted to create israel to begin with.
The only way the conflict would end is if there was some sort of mutual trust between Palestinians and Israelis, which there probably will never be because they've hated each other for the past 100 years.
It is not a crime to enjoy/promote Hogwarts just because people think Rowling is trash. 
Haven't learnt Abracadabra yet though
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It can be solved and was in fact nearly solved if it wasn't for the usual suspects, the Zionists and Amerikkka.
Majority of the UN voted in favour for the 1960 something borders that was first drawn up by both sides, only a few voted against it (guess who?). The instigators and the ones that do not want peace always come from the Zionists and their Amerikkkan dogs.
Nothing more than a European occupation of the Middle East 🤷🏾♂️
"If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to invent one."
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I indirectly offend you with everything i say i get it
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And i didnt word it to content you egoistic bum especially. Cry me a river
I never did that and i was talkibg about us Muslims i couldn't care less if you misinterpreted that
Since the points i make either offend you and get wasted coz you just can't comprehend
I wasn't comparing religions in my latter statements, i claimed and maintain people who used to take the sun or other things as god or even stars had to have experienced certain anomalies to attribute God hood to them or so much so personify it as a livin creature.
Everyone has the right to think that their religion or ideology is true and perfect until it comes scrutiny ofc
And even tho i haven't claimed what your seem to deduce out of thin air like you always try to grasp at straws to derive the worst possible conclusions and questions to shed negativity .. I think i have the right to believe my religion is superior on every standard too.
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And i didnt word it to content you egoistic bum especially. Cry me a river
I never did that and i was talkibg about us Muslims i couldn't care less if you misinterpreted that
Since the points i make either offend you and get wasted coz you just can't comprehend
I wasn't comparing religions in my latter statements, i claimed and maintain people who used to take the sun or other things as god or even stars had to have experienced certain anomalies to attribute God hood to them or so much so personify it as a livin creature.
Everyone has the right to think that their religion or ideology is true and perfect until it comes scrutiny ofc
And even tho i haven't claimed what your seem to deduce out of thin air like you always try to grasp at straws to derive the worst possible conclusions and questions to shed negativity .. I think i have the right to believe my religion is superior on every standard too.
Palestine is a equally valuable to Christian and Muslims.. And these are the 3 faiths have coexisted and have grown for centuries under Muslims and Christians rules
We have our 1st direction of prayer in Aqsa and Christians have their very scared Church where they think Jesus will come
So there is no real reason for Jews to claim their right over Palestine and while doing so claim their right iver Muslims and Christian places and that whole sacred area under the pre-text that "WE WANT A JEWISH COUNTRY"
There is no logical reason to decimate and ethnically cleanse an already existing country where the 3 religions existed mutually, just to build an apartied state claiming ownership of the place because once upon a time millenniums ago there existed a Jewish empire
This is no different than radical twisted "Muslims" trying to revive the Caliphate under the similar pretexts.
We have our 1st direction of prayer in Aqsa and Christians have their very scared Church where they think Jesus will come
So there is no real reason for Jews to claim their right over Palestine and while doing so claim their right iver Muslims and Christian places and that whole sacred area under the pre-text that "WE WANT A JEWISH COUNTRY"
There is no logical reason to decimate and ethnically cleanse an already existing country where the 3 religions existed mutually, just to build an apartied state claiming ownership of the place because once upon a time millenniums ago there existed a Jewish empire
This is no different than radical twisted "Muslims" trying to revive the Caliphate under the similar pretexts.
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Never said about anything there not being other variation to people's devine philosophy and what they take as gods.. My comments were collective
You could have just said that "USED TO" is incorrect but you have to act like a kid with aggravating fits
Again my comments are all inclusive to people who have any sort of religious connection and notions about deities even the ones in the absolute minority.
You could have just said that "USED TO" is incorrect but you have to act like a kid with aggravating fits
Again my comments are all inclusive to people who have any sort of religious connection and notions about deities even the ones in the absolute minority.
So zionism started in the late 1800s as a jewish liberation movement. Jews were persecuted in europe for hundreds of years and so this idea came about that jews needed a homeland where they can be safe from persecution. This idea was ultimately proven right with the holocaust, where millions of jews died because they were denied refuge in other countries.
Anyways in the late 1800s, many jews decided to immigrate to Israel. This caused a lot of conflict, many arabs didn't like jewish immigration to the region. Because of this, there was a lot of fighting between the groups. This culminated in a giant war, the arabs lost, and had to leave the area.
Now I will not deny that there are a lot of bad things that the zionists have done. However, this isn't comparable to ISIS trying to revive the caliphate. Why? Because not only are muslims not oppressed in the middle east, there are countless muslim countries, whereas Israel is the sole jewish state. Even within the region, there are multiple arab muslim states; Jordan and Egypt are the ones that come to my mind first. These states held parts of Palestine before the six day war.
A better analogy to the zionists would probably be indian partition, where the muslims demanded their own state because they were afraid of being oppressed by indian rule.
In any case, the reason so many jews support israel is because israel is viewed as essential to the security of the jewish people, who have faced violence for hundreds of years. If another nazi government ever came about and jews were ever persecuted again, they would always be able to flee to israel. Would this be the case if there was an Arab majority state in the region? The answer is no. If i'm not mistaken, the arabs fought for britain to limit the immigration of jews to the area even during hitler's rule.
Anyways, I'm not saying that any of this justifies violence against arabs, but its not so simple as "well, if the jews just accepted arab rule, everything would be fine", because the arabs were never tolerant of a large jewish presence in the region.
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I don't think anti-zionists realize that to the Israelis, The State of Israel is a matter of survival. Its the thing that stands between them and another holocaust.
Which is why the whole "Palestine will be free from river to sea" thing simply will never work. I think part of the reason why the arabs were never able to defeat the israelis is simply because they didn't have the same resolve as the israelis. They israelis had nowhere else to go, europe had just tried to eradicate them and the whole world was complicit in what Hitler was doing to the jews up until he started invading other countries.
There is no "peaceful dissolution of the state of Israel." The israelis would probably fight to the death to protect their home and the safety of their people and the only way Israel could ever be dissolved would be via a brutal and violent war, probably resulting in a second holocaust.
Anyways in the late 1800s, many jews decided to immigrate to Israel. This caused a lot of conflict, many arabs didn't like jewish immigration to the region. Because of this, there was a lot of fighting between the groups. This culminated in a giant war, the arabs lost, and had to leave the area.
Now I will not deny that there are a lot of bad things that the zionists have done. However, this isn't comparable to ISIS trying to revive the caliphate. Why? Because not only are muslims not oppressed in the middle east, there are countless muslim countries, whereas Israel is the sole jewish state. Even within the region, there are multiple arab muslim states; Jordan and Egypt are the ones that come to my mind first. These states held parts of Palestine before the six day war.
A better analogy to the zionists would probably be indian partition, where the muslims demanded their own state because they were afraid of being oppressed by indian rule.
In any case, the reason so many jews support israel is because israel is viewed as essential to the security of the jewish people, who have faced violence for hundreds of years. If another nazi government ever came about and jews were ever persecuted again, they would always be able to flee to israel. Would this be the case if there was an Arab majority state in the region? The answer is no. If i'm not mistaken, the arabs fought for britain to limit the immigration of jews to the area even during hitler's rule.
Anyways, I'm not saying that any of this justifies violence against arabs, but its not so simple as "well, if the jews just accepted arab rule, everything would be fine", because the arabs were never tolerant of a large jewish presence in the region.
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I don't think anti-zionists realize that to the Israelis, The State of Israel is a matter of survival. Its the thing that stands between them and another holocaust.
Which is why the whole "Palestine will be free from river to sea" thing simply will never work. I think part of the reason why the arabs were never able to defeat the israelis is simply because they didn't have the same resolve as the israelis. They israelis had nowhere else to go, europe had just tried to eradicate them and the whole world was complicit in what Hitler was doing to the jews up until he started invading other countries.
There is no "peaceful dissolution of the state of Israel." The israelis would probably fight to the death to protect their home and the safety of their people and the only way Israel could ever be dissolved would be via a brutal and violent war, probably resulting in a second holocaust.
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This is no where near comparable india /pakistan partition
Jews weren't a persecuted part of Palestine and needed another homeland by craving a piece of Palistine..
You are basically saying Jews were bullied by Europeans so they came and occupied an independent country claiming they need a home becuz the world is being racist and rather than living in Palistine among other ethnicities they instead tried to monopolise and claim that its their land out of ego since once upon a time there existed a Jewish state making excuses like "Oh they weren't using the lands it was baren we just slid in an occupied" (their prez)
No matter how important security was to them.. The reasoning that "oh look these are all muslim countries we want a Jewish country too COZ WHY NOT ITS NOT LIKE JEWS DONT ALREADY LIVE IN PEACE IN MUSLIM LANDS" is absolutely BOGUS.. it extremely selfish to want to have a country already occupied by a society and having to cleanse it just for you to have your "security"
Its backstabbing the society that took em in and are now building a nation on their corpses day in and out
it has resulted in Muslims and Christians being prosecuted and murdered every other day since the advent of this "state"
Well just to be clear how accurate ISIS comparison is to Israel
- radical Muslims lost hope in Muslim leaders doing nothing about Muslims genocides around the world and used the religion as basis to revive the Caliphate so that Muslims are reunited against prejudice again islam and being a Muslim and being secure with their Muslim identity
Compare that to your Indo Pak analogy. 👀
Jews weren't a persecuted part of Palestine and needed another homeland by craving a piece of Palistine..
You are basically saying Jews were bullied by Europeans so they came and occupied an independent country claiming they need a home becuz the world is being racist and rather than living in Palistine among other ethnicities they instead tried to monopolise and claim that its their land out of ego since once upon a time there existed a Jewish state making excuses like "Oh they weren't using the lands it was baren we just slid in an occupied" (their prez)
No matter how important security was to them.. The reasoning that "oh look these are all muslim countries we want a Jewish country too COZ WHY NOT ITS NOT LIKE JEWS DONT ALREADY LIVE IN PEACE IN MUSLIM LANDS" is absolutely BOGUS.. it extremely selfish to want to have a country already occupied by a society and having to cleanse it just for you to have your "security"
Its backstabbing the society that took em in and are now building a nation on their corpses day in and out
it has resulted in Muslims and Christians being prosecuted and murdered every other day since the advent of this "state"
Well just to be clear how accurate ISIS comparison is to Israel
- radical Muslims lost hope in Muslim leaders doing nothing about Muslims genocides around the world and used the religion as basis to revive the Caliphate so that Muslims are reunited against prejudice again islam and being a Muslim and being secure with their Muslim identity
Compare that to your Indo Pak analogy. 👀
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Jews are one of the least selfish religious groups. Look how many countries Christians conquered. Look at how many empires and caliphates were created by the Muslims.
In hundreds of years Jews wanted just a small strip of land so they could be safe from oppression, yet they get demonized by this by the Arabs. The same Arabs THAT CONQUERED THE ENTIRE REGION.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939
The Arabs never supported the Jews. They opposed Jewish immigration to the region while they were getting persecuted by Hitler in Germany. Which is why Jews cannot rely on the Arabs to defend them.
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There are nearly 2 billion Muslims across the world.
They control large swaths of land in multiple continents. They don’t need a caliphate.
You can’t tell me “Jews would be safe in the Arab world” when many of these Muslim majority countries are absolutely awful to minorities.
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Anyways, I’m not going to pretend like the Zionists didn’t do awful things. But you cannot pretend that the Arabs were just helpless victims that did nothing wrong.
They had massive countries and if they were willing to share just a little bit of their land, maybe there wouldn’t be a conflict. But they were so greedy and bigoted that they were unwilling to accept any Jewish state in the region. Which caused the war.
In hundreds of years Jews wanted just a small strip of land so they could be safe from oppression, yet they get demonized by this by the Arabs. The same Arabs THAT CONQUERED THE ENTIRE REGION.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939
The Arabs never supported the Jews. They opposed Jewish immigration to the region while they were getting persecuted by Hitler in Germany. Which is why Jews cannot rely on the Arabs to defend them.
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There are nearly 2 billion Muslims across the world.
They control large swaths of land in multiple continents. They don’t need a caliphate.
You can’t tell me “Jews would be safe in the Arab world” when many of these Muslim majority countries are absolutely awful to minorities.
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Anyways, I’m not going to pretend like the Zionists didn’t do awful things. But you cannot pretend that the Arabs were just helpless victims that did nothing wrong.
They had massive countries and if they were willing to share just a little bit of their land, maybe there wouldn’t be a conflict. But they were so greedy and bigoted that they were unwilling to accept any Jewish state in the region. Which caused the war.
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Are you saying the Arabs should expell themselves and leave big chunk of lands , make millions of people homeless and hand it to the Jews because Europeans genocided Jews at their continent?
What LMAO?
And you're ignoring the significance of Jerusalem, it's certainly ain't a piece of land to Arabs.
But sure I guess.
Let's built a ethno state right deep in the heart of the Arab world that every one was sure will be a bad idea. Make them a Nuclear power and the Military capabilities that beyond any player in the region. Make themselves an oppressor to the indigenous people , bring settler colonialism from worldwides to win the demographics battle and not get overbreed by surrounding Arab * hordes* .
A century goes on, eternal hostilities is planted among both sides of Arabs elites, the Islamists and the Secularists towards Israel. Even after a fragile *normalization* that has been done by few autocratic Arabs states it's solely due to economic benefits and appeasing Washington for their geopolitics battles, it's clearly not supported by masses.
* I support Israel because Jews need a state, I'll ignore the historical and religious significance of the land, I'll ignore the inter- Arabs dynamics, portraying them as literally the same people all over the Middle East and ohh yeah Palestinians should be the collateral damage that should leave home to live in refugee camps, such bigotry from Arabs for not doing so"
What LMAO?
And you're ignoring the significance of Jerusalem, it's certainly ain't a piece of land to Arabs.
But sure I guess.
Let's built a ethno state right deep in the heart of the Arab world that every one was sure will be a bad idea. Make them a Nuclear power and the Military capabilities that beyond any player in the region. Make themselves an oppressor to the indigenous people , bring settler colonialism from worldwides to win the demographics battle and not get overbreed by surrounding Arab * hordes* .
A century goes on, eternal hostilities is planted among both sides of Arabs elites, the Islamists and the Secularists towards Israel. Even after a fragile *normalization* that has been done by few autocratic Arabs states it's solely due to economic benefits and appeasing Washington for their geopolitics battles, it's clearly not supported by masses.
* I support Israel because Jews need a state, I'll ignore the historical and religious significance of the land, I'll ignore the inter- Arabs dynamics, portraying them as literally the same people all over the Middle East and ohh yeah Palestinians should be the collateral damage that should leave home to live in refugee camps, such bigotry from Arabs for not doing so"