Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

You can believe whatever you want. Let others believe whatever they want. Why the incentive to convert by the church?
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She was a devout nun. The real problem is she was offered incentives by some ministry and with a target to meet

Nuns are usually some old lesbian hags that are angry all the time.

 

[NikaInParis]

Bro Hindu temples don't gave the organization and weekly sermons. And the temples don't even have autonomy over the offerings the devotees offer. All of it, the government takes and then donates to roads, public works, donation to mosques and churches, etc.


Also there is no concept of non believer or Kabir in Hinduism

Man, you keep ignoring stuff you don't want to answer

How do you explain organized attacks on Muslims that have happened and continue to happen in India?

How is that not an example of religious radicalism yet the attacks by muslims are?

And I'm not excusing any of them btw

 

[NAMELESS]

You can believe whatever you want. Let others believe whatever they want. Why the incentive to convert by the church?
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She was a devout nun. The real problem is she was offered incentives by some ministry and with a target to meet

The conversion thing is because Christians believe in saving souls.Also,as i said,assholes are eveywhere.There is corruption in the Church today,in the past and in the future there will also be.Whatever Priest/Bishop is advocating this kind of treatment is committing a serious sin.

 

[Tejas]

Man, you keep ignoring stuff you don't want to answer

How do you explain organized attacks on Muslims that have happened and continue to happen in India?

How is that not an example of religious radicalism yet the attacks by muslims are?

And I'm not excusing any of them btw

I condemn any attack on a person based on his identity, religious, racial or gender.

But retaliation in self defense is a natural struggle for survival.

You know the previous Hinduphobic government was about to pass a law that irrespective of whoever instigates a riot, hindus solely shall be held responsible and punishable.


But as such there is no religious sanction in Hindu scriptures about punishing the non believers. There is no compulsion in belief. Only universal compassion.

 

[NAMELESS]

I condemn any attack on a person based on his identity, religious, racial or gender.

But retaliation in self defense is a natural struggle for survival.

You know the previous Hinduphobic government was about to pass a law that irrespective of whoever instigates a riot, hindus solely shall be held responsible and punishable.


But as such there is no religious sanction in Hindu scriptures about punishing the non believers. There is no compulsion in belief. Only universal compassion.

So there is no segregation between state and religion in India?

 

[Tejas]

The conversion thing is because Christians believe in saving souls.Also,as i said,assholes are eveywhere.There is corruption in the Church today,in the past and in the future there will also be.Whatever Priest/Bishop is advocating this kind of treatment is committing a serious sin.

I don't have anything against Christ. I even respect him as equal to our Rishis(Wise sages).

But Church is a different thing altogether.

This what happens in Indian churches

http://imgur.com/RI7ZY5W

 

[NAMELESS]

I don't have anything against Christ. I even respect him as equal to our Rishis(Wise sages).

But Church is a different thing altogether.

This what happens in Indian churches

http://imgur.com/RI7ZY5W

Would you mind explaining what is going on there?I see a crowd and people on the ground,what is that?

 

[Tejas]

So there is no segregation between state and religion in India?

No. The state controls Hindu temples and does too much appeasement of Muslims and Christians.

Hindu religious education is outlawed while giving incentives to Church schools and Madrasas.

State gives salary to Pastors and Mullahs

 

[NikaInParis]

I condemn any attack on a person based on his identity, religious, racial or gender.

But retaliation in self defense is a natural struggle for survival.

You know the previous Hinduphobic government was about to pass a law that irrespective of whoever instigates a riot, hindus solely shall be held responsible and punishable.


But as such there is no religious sanction in Hindu scriptures about punishing the non believers. There is no compulsion in belief. Only universal compassion.

From a few days ago:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/04/05/indias-hindu-festivals-bring-increasing-anti-muslim-violence

Political parties use these riots to get voters.

At least that's what is used as an explanation for the Hindus that did the violence. What about the Muslims that threw rocks at temples? Do they get a political explanation?

I'm afraid not. It's straight to scripture bashing.

 

[Tejas]

Would you mind explaining what is going on there?I see a crowd and people on the ground,what is that?

Villagers bribed with money to act in church events as possessed by devil in form of Hindu Gods and the Pastor "saves" them by his sermon. All this being done in hindu religious places with state support and foreign NGO funding

 

[NAMELESS]

No. The state controls Hindu temples and does too much appeasement of Muslims and Christians.

Hindu religious education is outlawed while giving incentives to Church schools and Madrasas.
State gives salary to Pastors and Mullahs

You guys could do with some political reform imo.Secular/Laic state prevent such things from happening.
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Villagers bribed with money to act in church events as possessed by devil in form of Hindu Gods and the Pastor "saves" them by his sermon. All this being done in hindu religious places with state support and foreign NGO funding

LOL
They do stuff stuff like this here too.Anyone that uses god's name and words to fool people and make money deserves a especial place in Hell.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

That rarely happens.
First of all the intention to convert stems from the fact that Abrahamic religions lay heavy emphasis on hatred of non believers. Where there is hatred, Integration is rarely possible
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I live in Hyderabad. What do you think?

And these people remind you of nazis?

 

[Tejas]

From a few days ago:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/04/05/indias-hindu-festivals-bring-increasing-anti-muslim-violence

Political parties use these riots to get voters.

At least that's what is used as an explanation for the Hindus that did the violence. What about the Muslims that threw rocks at temples? Do they get a political explanation?

I'm afraid not. It's straight to scripture bashing.

Yes they get the backing of Muslim political party which constantly spews hate speech

Also disregarding any news that utters the term South Asia. It is a hallmark of agenda driven news.

What really happens on Ram Navami is organised stone pelting. Come to India and see it with your own eyes. Don't be shocked
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And these people remind you of nazis?

Have you lived in Hyderabad?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

To be fair here, the use of the concept of "indo-european" is only a linguistic concept. That is by the way subject to controversy among linguists themselves.

Indoeuropean as the root language isn’t really controversial? It’s very well attested to.

 

[NikaInParis]

Yes they get the backing of Muslim political party which constantly spews hate speech

Also disregarding any news that utters the term South Asia. It is a hallmark of agenda driven news.

What really happens on Ram Navami is organised stone pelting. Come to India and see it with your own eyes. Don't be shocked
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Have you lived in Hyderabad?

Dude, the incident in April literally talks about Hindus commiting attacks while being backed by a political party?
Like, how far can you turn your head on the issue without coming full circle?

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[Mathias]

Indoeuropean as the root language isn’t really controversial? It’s very well attested to.

What do you mean "root language" ? Because there has never been an indo-european people nor has there been an indo-european language. Only theories of what the "mother language" could look like.

It's a term used to classify neighboring languages that has been fueling some illusions --for instance about "Europeans"-- for centuries now.

@Admiral Maynard seemed to be referring to the "the indo-europeans" as a people

 

[AL sama]

Do you think India should be inhabited purely by hindus?

And just so there's no misunderstanding, hindus as in adhering to that particular religion and none other?

that's literally what indian PM Modi is trying to do these days

 

[NikaInParis]

that's literally what indian PM Modi is trying to do these days

I'm not surprised, but Tejas keeps ignoring/excusing that narrative completely

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm not surprised, but Tejas keeps ignoring/excusing that narrative completely

You can’t reason with fanatics/fundamentalists.