That's actually a perfect description
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HAHA sure is 😂

I just binged the manga recently after I caught up with the anime and that's still airing atm. Even tho it has alot of shonen tropes and throw backs to shonens. It has some depth to it, especially when it comes to the side cast. That in addition to the comedy you get even from the more poker faced cold characters and the Hype from the best of the lot was really pumpin Adrenaline

i recommend watching the anime first..its quite well animated

Should you get you hopes UP?
All I'll say is judge for yourself


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@NAMELESS ^^
 
By equal I mean where there's minimum discrimination and prejudices among different sub groups

And equal opportunity for everyone for everyone to progress and improve themselves

And not One section of society institutionally dominating everything from Government to Business.


Indeed, Basic level for survival must be granted but What counts as Basic level of rights especially in 1st World countries is a matter of controversy and contentious issue. It become harder when we put historically oppressed minorities into picture

And yeah Government shouldn't really *baby* people.

At the end of day it's up to individuals whether they want to remain poor, settling in mediocrity, or want to rich and successful. It's all up to them.
Those who truly want something will get there if they really try hard.

Government just need to give citizens the necessary tool to survive and progress to
the next level


A country where basic needs is lacking means many brilliants minds and talents is wasted as they just putting all the hard work just to merely achieve those things. Socialism want to avoid that.
But that does not require socialism though.., just end of corruption, prejudice and exploitation.

Basic level of survival for me: shelter, food, health care, and of course education to enable equal or at least as equal as possible opportunity.

Nah, the best example of systems/states that enable what you want are the Scandinavian countries that follow the Nordic model in which you combine far-reaching social security programs with emphasis on private ownership and companies, so called social corporatism. But communists and socialists have hated this model because it prevents the development to communism/socialism and thus the government holding power and means of production while having worked better for life standard improvement than any socialist/communist country ever did.
But even in that system, better earning people have to contribute a lot more to programs and things that they themselves do not use much, so they have to be content with that. In Germany where I live for example (close to Nordic model but a few differences), many people are not ok with it, and can, to a certain extent at least, opt out of paying into public security programs and switch to private insurance because you pay less on a personal level at least (changes if you have kids) and get much better treatment for it, or if you do use/need health care, you get a certain percentage of your money back.
 
Even before this thread was made, power level drama and punishments outnumbered political ones still lol. Statistic wise, power level debates are more toxic than political ones which is...pretty sad when I think about it.

This is a manga forum yet we talk about sports, food, jobs etc. The general chat section and the waiting room should get nuked given the logic here.
Odd

I think i've been much more toxic in this thread than I ever have in a power level debate.
 
Honestly I've seen more toxicity in the Nakama thread than in this thread tbh.

Left wing vs Right wing fights in here aren't common enough.
idk
I don't think people's one piece opinions are as revealing of their true nature as their political opinions.
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like certain political opinions genuinely enrage me.

The gay/groomer stuff especially. When people spout that shit, they are actively spreading hatred against an already marginalized community.

I genuinely despise people who spread that stuff.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
But that does not require socialism though.., just end of corruption, prejudice and exploitation.

Basic level of survival for me: shelter, food, health care, and of course education to enable equal or at least as equal as possible opportunity.

Nah, the best example of systems/states that enable what you want are the Scandinavian countries that follow the Nordic model in which you combine far-reaching social security programs with emphasis on private ownership and companies, so called social corporatism. But communists and socialists have hated this model because it prevents the development to communism/socialism and thus the government holding power and means of production while having worked better for life standard improvement than any socialist/communist country ever did.
But even in that system, better earning people have to contribute a lot more to programs and things that they themselves do not use much, so they have to be content with that. In Germany where I live for example (close to Nordic model but a few differences), many people are not ok with it, and can, to a certain extent at least, opt out of paying into public security programs and switch to private insurance because you pay less on a personal level at least (changes if you have kids) and get much better treatment for it, or if you do use/need health care, you get a certain percentage of your money back.
Yeah old school commies need to give up the idea hyper-centralization of Government.

It was mostly a disaster and prone to extreme corruption and bureaucratic mess.

I'm sure in the 90's when Commies regimes was collapsing one after another it really made even the most hardcore socialists to give up the classic Marxist-Lenin and other old school thoughts.


The Nordic model is probably the most realistic and with an actual tangible successful results of higher standard of living


The mostly good thing happening in former socialist states is industrialization+ high literacy. Which something can happen even under Capitalist regimes.


When I first read the New born state of India and their attempt of socialism I thought it's sounds good in paper but the implementation of the policies are disastrous and Socialist India was really held back in those decades.
it was the Capitalistic shift and Economic liberation/ privatization in 90s that brought massive Economic progress.
One could argue China Also did the same albeit still maintaining the one party monopoly

Tho the drawback is massive disparity in wealth and the rise of Oligarchs/ untouchable elites that keep becoming ultra rich ie Unequal society, back to classic socialist criticism of Capitalism

If one or two regimes failed it's Fair but if most of them failed then it's clearly not practical


Now the world is too deeply interconnected and it's economic interest of any state to adopt hyper capitalism to get economic progress.

So now we're stuck. Capitalism have been successful bringing progress for humanity
and now the world ain't got appetite for different styles of system beyond the Capitalistic Paradigm that can give us more *ideal* society
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Odd

I think i've been much more toxic in this thread than I ever have in a power level debate.

For you yeah. You dont take PL debates too seriously but lots of others do for some reason.

idk
I don't think people's one piece opinions are as revealing of their true nature as their political opinions.
We have people sending death threats, trying to dox and stalking others over something as petty and unimportant as power levels. It often speaks volumes more than politics since its easy for some to exaggerate what you say and accuse you.
 
For you yeah. You dont take PL debates too seriously but lots of others do for some reason.



We have people sending death threats, trying to dox and stalking others over something as petty and unimportant as power levels. It often speaks volumes more than politics since its easy for some to exaggerate what you say and accuse you.
Its people's obsessions and the way they go about is what show their true colors essentially ye?
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Its people's obsessions and the way they go about is what show their true colors essentially ye?
Yes exactly. Nothing more, nothing else. For Power level debates there's no excuse because of how unimportant they are.

For politics, people have a black and white perspective and assume someone must think the exact opposite of what they do on any topic.
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On this site? I thought everyone was mostly chill.
You have no idea the shit we see and put down before it spirals out of control lol
 
On this site? I thought everyone was mostly chill.
Bro you have a subconscious filter for this shi so you don't see it happening 💀

A dude was banned coz he said he'd be fascinated with someone dying over PS
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Yes exactly. Nothing more, nothing else. For Power level debates there's no excuse because of how unimportant they are.

For politics, people have a black and white perspective and assume someone must think the exact opposite of what they do on any topic.
the fact that you could be on the same page with folks you diss coz of powerscaling 💀 gets shi awkward here

PS is superficial as hell.. The only quality you could get about someone engaging is their attitude towards disapproval of others and use of rational thought to the extent of the evidence and loose ends provided in the Manga for whatever agenda they carry


Its like comparing an ant to an elephant comparing PS to politics.
 
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