Controversial General Political Discussion

[Doggo]

The first one is silly discussion

The second is quite interesting,
So how's there capitalism without government back up?

There isn't.

Capitalism depends on government to back it up.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

We are talking at how liking Hitler's favorite color makes you Hitler as well.

And how people think there's "capitalism without government to back it up"

Doggo, please leave.
If you spend one more hour in this thread van will have to un-mod you and now that Pantheos is back you'll be heading for a ban.

I only have your safety and mental wellbeing in mind but nevertheless, I can't not remember these posts of yours that called for the people to take down capitalists because "we have nothing to lose but our shackles". The image of the throne guillotine was etched into my mind.

 

[NAMELESS]

sounds more like left politics disquised as right

Hitler himself said that his regime were socialist in name alone. He called them the Nazi Socialist Party because it would appeal more to the German people. Essentially another of his manipulation tools.

Nazi Germany state had lots of control yes, but they allowed self accumulation and growth to those they deemed loyal and necessary to the regime flourishing. Hitler used lots of nationalist and facist propaganda to get the people on his side without having to do much military intervention. The left wing elements of Nazi Germany was purely to make sure assets don't go to "undesirables", using right wing methods to enforce it.

Just like China and Russia pretend to fight all the time,i think Hitler and Stalin were playing the scissor strategy before Hitler found out he was about to be betrayed.Scissor strategy=once you have acquired hegemony,pretend to have a opposition.The left does that all the time.Back when Brazil was becoming a democracy again 1988,Lula said there was no real right wing politicians opposing them in the elections and that the left was lucky.Some of these started calling themselves centrists or right wingers and faking opposition.Many of these politicians later on were caught drinking wine with Lula and other left wingers.The left fakes opposition once they have hegemony.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I guess Russia is super left wing nowadays and not a totalitarian right wing regime...

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

How is it that we're still having to explain to you guys the difference between socialism, communism, and capitalism? This is middle school level shit, it all comes down to who owns the means of production.

You don't have to explain it to Zolo, as a matter of fact he knows very well how to define these and chooses his words carefully, a manipulator and anti-social opportunist straight out of the ancient books.

 

[NAMELESS]

elon should unban alex jones

He should.Alex does dumb shit and but some of the crazy stuff he says turns out to be true sometimes.

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There isn't.

Capitalism depends on government to back it up.

I would love to hear the logic behind your statement.As i see things,government just exist to prevent real capitalism from happening.

 

[Zolo]

I guess Russia is super left wing nowadays and not a totalitarian right wing regime...

relax

Just like China and Russia pretend to fight all the time,i think Hitler and Stalin were playing the scissor strategy before Hitler found out he was about to be betrayed.Scissor strategy=once you have acquired hegemony,pretend to have a opposition.The left does that all the time.Back when Brazil was becoming a democracy again 1988,Lula said there was no real right wing politicians opposing them in the elections and that the left was lucky.Some of these started calling themselves centrists or right wingers and faking opposition.Many of these politicians later on were caught drinking wine with Lula and other left wingers.The left fakes opposition once they have hegemony.

If stalin had read mein kampf he would have known that hitler allways had a plan to take its territory... Stalin after failur in finland, and germanys succes agains france feared hitler but he never expected for him to attack. also he had plans to fight germany too, and he build up hes army. germans had no choice , but maybe if they didint start operation barbarossa everything would have been different,

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I guess Russia is super left wing nowadays and not a totalitarian right wing regime...

I mean hey, ya learn something new everyday

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Scissor strategy=once you have acquired hegemony,pretend to have a opposition

Controlled opposition, like what we have in Germany.
There are no real left parties here anymore. The Left and Green party are run by capitalists.

 

[Zolo]

I guess Russia is super left wing nowadays and not a totalitarian right wing regime...

left wing goes with totalitarian. ofcourse when theres dictator theres left wing nationalists

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Didn't the military issue a warning to Macron? Maybe they're taking action right as we speak.

when? Never heard of that.

It was a fake news. People pretending to be from a French ministry spread that fake news.
But it was debunked

There was a tweet the other day of a guy on a rooftop acting as a sniper, only for it to be an old video

So yeah, do be mindful of fakes ya'll.

I don't have to be mindful because I can't see twitter.

Which avi was this?

Photoshopped a dolphin's head on a Hitler portrait, with visible swastika.

 

[Doggo]

He should.Alex does dumb shit and but some of the crazy stuff he says turns out to be true sometimes.

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I would love to hear the logic behind your statement.As i see things,government just exist to prevent real capitalism from happening.

That's because they sold you a dumb idea.

there's no "real capitalism". There's just "capitalism".
"real capitalism" is a cope created to make people believe that every single crisis created by the very own basis of capitalism not being self-sufficient, is because "no real capitalism".

It comes from the same realm as "they weren't liberal enough" every time "liberalism" fails.

 

[SakazOuki]

Controlled opposition, like what we have in Germany.
There are no real left parties here anymore. The Left and Green party are run by capitalists.

The old left has been exterminated after the end of the cold war, only a couple countries exist now with China being its center. Even China allows private capitalists to exist.
The left now has been reduced to LGBTQ parades among other social issues, so the entirety of the western left is capitalist by default lol

 

[NAMELESS]

Controlled opposition, like what we have in Germany.
There are no real left parties here anymore. The Left and Green party are run by capitalists.

i wouldn't call them capitalist,but rather metacapitalists=billionaries that have reached the top and are tired of competition,so they do lobby to destroy small/middle sized business to create monopolies.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I would love to hear the logic behind your statement.As i see things,government just exist to prevent real capitalism from happening.

you never cease to amaze me....

 

[notAfanboy]

Multiple genocides are happening as we speak.

True, even internet and social is not good enough to show what is currently happening in the world.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Photoshopped a dolphin's head on a Hitler portrait, with visible swastika.

Why would you ever do that?

 

[NAMELESS]

That's because they sold you a dumb idea.

there's no "real capitalism". There's just "capitalism".
"real capitalism" is a cope created to make people believe that every single crisis created by the very own basis of capitalism not being self-sufficient, is because "no real capitalism".

It comes from the same realm as "they weren't liberal enough" every time "liberalism" fails.

Capitalism is free trade of goods and services.If some billionaire does lobby to suppress small/middle sized business,he isn't a capitalist,but rather a tyrant,monopolist and criminal.Anyone that perverts the freedom of trade cannot be called a capitalist.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

i wouldn't call them capitalist,but rather metacapitalists=billionaries that have reached the top and are tired of competition,so they do lobby to destroy small/middle sized business to create monopolies.

What do you even know about my country

 

[Doggo]

Capitalism is free trade of goods and services..

No, it isn't.