Controversial General Political Discussion

[AL sama]

Self explanatory.
You don't want the cat to get out of the bag

you're trying to teach a school teacher what's school

 

[NAMELESS]

What Madrasa?

You are sounding worse than an illeterate.

If a man commits a crime put him in jail and let the court decide the punishment.

Who allowed you to be judge, jury and the executioner?

I know you say judges are compromised.
So yeah, keep fucking around and you will find out.

making threats doesn't help either,btw

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Questionable activities run by Halal certifying authorities
An organization like Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind (JUH), one of the oldest halal certifying trusts in India, is constantly in the news for their legal support to the accused in terror-related cases. Even in murder cases, like in the case of Kamlesh Tiwari, bomb blasts and terror funding cases, the organization extended legal support to the accused. A large part of these funds, come from the fees they charge for halal certification. So unknowingly, everyone in India ends up finding the legal fees of terrorists and criminals by consuming halal products even though there is no religious requirement for them to do so

@AL sama

Read this.

yeah,this is would make me worried too

 

[Tejas]

What Madrasa?

You are sounding worse than an illeterate.

If a man commits a crime put him in jail and let the court decide the punishment.

Who allowed you to be judge, jury and the executioner?

I know you say judges are compromised.
So yeah, keep fucking around and you will find out.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I even called you out. You instead of condemning those incident started calling me many things.

I get it you are trying to push your narrative but still

I don’t believe you. I’m pretty sure I’d call that out. Contrary to what you think one quarter of my political family is Indian. I don’t know why you think I hate Indians. I just hate religions, and you.

 

[notAfanboy]

Halal is discriminatory
For a meat product to be halal, the animal must be slaughtered only by a Muslim. In order to achieve economies of scale, the meat industry ends up operating large-scale abattoirs to produce all their meat. They end up using only Muslims at these abattoirs as it has simply become cheaper to produce all their meat together, instead of running separate abattoirs for halal and non-halal meat. In such a scenario, many Hindu communities, especially some Dalits, who were traditionally butchers, miss out on employment opportunities in the sector. Considering the meat industry is worth several Billion dollars, this is a huge sector where only people from one religion are finding jobs because of halal policies.

Halal restricts other people’s choices and beliefs
Most businesses have started serving only halal meat now to save the cost of maintaining 2 supply chains, for halal and non-halal meat. People who may not be comfortable with halal meat, or for people with religions where only jhatka meat is allowed, no longer have any choice in the matter. If they are ordering meat at a restaurant, they get halal only by default.

Halal’s widening scope creating a parallel economy
As we can see with the case of Himalaya, halal economy is not just restricted to meat products now. Pharmaceutical products, personal care products, cosmetics, and even flour, all come with halal certification now. With its ever-growing scope, it is creating the grounds for restricting the job prospects in these sectors to people from only one religion. Further, this parallel system of certification runs without any checks and balances from the government.

Questionable activities run by Halal certifying authorities
An organization like Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind (JUH), one of the oldest halal certifying trusts in India, is constantly in the news for their legal support to the accused in terror-related cases. Even in murder cases, like in the case of Kamlesh Tiwari, bomb blasts and terror funding cases, the organization extended legal support to the accused. A large part of these funds, come from the fees they charge for halal certification. So unknowingly, everyone in India ends up finding the legal fees of terrorists and criminals by consuming halal products even though there is no religious requirement for them to do so

Imposition of one’s religious beliefs over all communities is ‘non-secular’
While we keep going on about the word secular in our constitution, imposing one religion’s beliefs on everyone can hardly be called secular. Indirectly, with businesses shifting to halal only products to cut their costs, this belief to consume only halal products has been imposed on everyone. The businesses have to be asked by the consumers to make it clear if they use only halal products or not so that as consumers, we can make an informed decision. People who want to consume halal products can continue to do so, but the rest of the people need to know if they are subtly being forced towards it or not.


@AL sama

Read this.

Or look at this way;

Muslims are consumers/customers and there are 2B+ of them.
So, yeah, food companies will make foods for them because they want to increase their revenue.
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Again, it boils down to your fear of Muslims and growing population in the world.
You think why Hinduism was left behind.
There are fundamental flaws in Hindu ideology, which is why other countries have not adapted it.
Plus, people who follow Abrahamic religions are spiritually more strong (according to my understanding), because they believe in the One, in case of Islam; Allah.
Not like Hinduism, where you call outstanding performers as Gods and start worshipping them, like Sachin Tendulkar. And you even agreed with this, so I am not making this shit up.

 

[NAMELESS]

I don’t believe you. I’m pretty sure I’d call that out. Contrary to what you think one quarter of my political family is Indian. I don’t know why you think I hate Indians. I just hate religions, and you.

what do you mean by political family?

 

[AL sama]

stop

 

[Logiko]

There is a FILTHY trend in the french One Piece twitter that needs to be put down right now before it gains popularity worldwide (and I'm waiting the help of the moderation on this, please confirm). For any french and english speaker that would find it funny:

If you make any reaprochment between Jews and the Celestial Dragon:

Just know that you are joking on the back of million of people by helping yourself in a FUCKING antisemitic and complotist BS argument that "jew are ruling the world and that they are bad". That FUCKING joke is the reason why Million were burned alive. So be cool, stop being a FUCKING antisemitic asshole and shut the FUCK up.

One Piece is not your FUCKING hate playground.

Thank you.

 

[Ravagerblade]

That's nice, but it's their opinions to say.
Shall we sing Kum Ba Ya?

 

[Logiko]

Sorry if this comes as a little flagrant but I wasn't aware of this trend until tonight and this comes as the worst thing that can happen to our community. This needs to be dealt with on a global scale. We need to show those french frickers that making that kind of joke is not cool and put us all into a bad light.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

what do you mean by political family?

Nunya

 

[Ravagerblade]

Vivek is doing great.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Halal is discriminatory
For a meat product to be halal, the animal must be slaughtered only by a Muslim. In order to achieve economies of scale, the meat industry ends up operating large-scale abattoirs to produce all their meat. They end up using only Muslims at these abattoirs as it has simply become cheaper to produce all their meat together, instead of running separate abattoirs for halal and non-halal meat. In such a scenario, many Hindu communities, especially some Dalits, who were traditionally butchers, miss out on employment opportunities in the sector. Considering the meat industry is worth several Billion dollars, this is a huge sector where only people from one religion are finding jobs because of halal policies.

Halal restricts other people’s choices and beliefs
Most businesses have started serving only halal meat now to save the cost of maintaining 2 supply chains, for halal and non-halal meat. People who may not be comfortable with halal meat, or for people with religions where only jhatka meat is allowed, no longer have any choice in the matter. If they are ordering meat at a restaurant, they get halal only by default.

Halal’s widening scope creating a parallel economy
As we can see with the case of Himalaya, halal economy is not just restricted to meat products now. Pharmaceutical products, personal care products, cosmetics, and even flour, all come with halal certification now. With its ever-growing scope, it is creating the grounds for restricting the job prospects in these sectors to people from only one religion. Further, this parallel system of certification runs without any checks and balances from the government.

Questionable activities run by Halal certifying authorities
An organization like Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind (JUH), one of the oldest halal certifying trusts in India, is constantly in the news for their legal support to the accused in terror-related cases. Even in murder cases, like in the case of Kamlesh Tiwari, bomb blasts and terror funding cases, the organization extended legal support to the accused. A large part of these funds, come from the fees they charge for halal certification. So unknowingly, everyone in India ends up finding the legal fees of terrorists and criminals by consuming halal products even though there is no religious requirement for them to do so

Imposition of one’s religious beliefs over all communities is ‘non-secular’
While we keep going on about the word secular in our constitution, imposing one religion’s beliefs on everyone can hardly be called secular. Indirectly, with businesses shifting to halal only products to cut their costs, this belief to consume only halal products has been imposed on everyone. The businesses have to be asked by the consumers to make it clear if they use only halal products or not so that as consumers, we can make an informed decision. People who want to consume halal products can continue to do so, but the rest of the people need to know if they are subtly being forced towards it or not.


@AL sama

Read this.

What’s so wrong with halal meat? It just doesn’t have pork and steps are put into place so that the animal is slaughtered humanely.

I don’t know much about halal but I know it’s based off kashrut. Which says that you should do stuff like: kill the animal in one stroke, don’t eat the flesh off a still living animal, don’t cause the animal unnecessary pain.

If that’s all halal is, why does it bother you so much?

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There is a FILTHY trend in the french One Piece twitter that needs to be put down right now before it gains popularity worldwide (and I'm waiting the help of the moderation on this, please confirm). For any french and english speaker that would find it funny:

If you make any reaprochment between Jews and the Celestial Dragon:

Just know that you are joking on the back of million of people by helping yourself in a FUCKING antisemitic and complotist BS argument that "jew are ruling the world and that they are bad". That FUCKING joke is the reason why Million were burned alive. So be cool, stop being a FUCKING antisemitic asshole and shut the FUCK up.

One Piece is not your FUCKING hate playground.

Thank you.

If anyone in OP are the Jews it’s the Ds, because they are Oda’s chosen people.

Also, Luffy vaguely parallels the Jewish messiah(probably not by intention tho, it’s just a common trope).

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Actually, the CDs literally cannot be Jewish.

Because a fundamental tenant of Faith for Judaism is the belief in one all powerful god.

Sh’ma Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad.
“oh hear oh Israel, Adonai is our God, Adonai is God”

The CDs believe that they are literal gods, which would be considered the ultimate blasphemy in Judaism.

Their beliefs are actually similar to what the Japanese used to believe before they lost WWII. They believed their emperor was a god, not to different from how the gorosei are treated.

The Japanese surrendered after the dropping of the nukes.

Ironically Oppenheimer and a bunch of people on the Manhattan project were Jewish.

 

[Adam 🍎]

No. My ancestors lost many places of worship to them and my people lost lives

Shit man, should i be angry at literally half of europe now?

Lmfao


What a victim mentality

 

[Tejas]

Shit man, should i be angry at literally half of europe now?

Lmfao


What a victim mentality

No. Calling out the ideology behind the destruction is enough.

 

[Adam 🍎]

No. Calling out the ideology behind the destruction is enough.

Nah man, you legit hate the west and religions. You still blame us for all misery but will turn a blind eye to all bad stuff you guys did

It happened in history and i wont play a victim bcs of fuck ups of people from before. That wont pay my bills or improve situation in the country now

It is just a way to pass the blame to others

 

[Tejas]

Nah man, you legit hate the west and religions. You still blame us for all misery but will turn a blind eye to all bad stuff you guys did

It happened in history and i wont play a victim bcs of fuck ups of people from before. That wont pay my bills or improve situation in the country now

It is just a way to pass the blame to others

While being aware won't pay your bills, history teaches us to be prepared for similar crises in future .

Especially when the ideologies that caused it in the past are still around. This time we are better prepared

 

[Adam 🍎]

While being aware won't pay your bills, history teaches us to be prepared for similar crises in future .

Especially when the ideologies that caused it in the past are still around. This time we are better prepared

While ideologies are here the people arent. We are way more civilized now than we were centuries ago despite idiots here and there

But you outright hating people just gives them fuel to retaliate. You aint the victim, stop bitching about everything and everyone and see possible enemy in all lmfao

Big bad muslim will jump over the fence and grafity a temple? Cmon man

 

[Tejas]

While ideologies are here the people arent. We are way more civilized now than we were centuries ago despite idiots here and there

But you outright hating people just gives them fuel to retaliate. You aint the victim, stop bitching about everything and everyone and see possible enemy in all lmfao

Big bad muslim will jump over the fence and grafity a temple? Cmon man

Tell that to Hindus in Bangladesh
https://www.opindia.com/2023/02/14-...angladesh-idols-vandalized-tossed-into-ponds/
https://organiser.org/2023/02/02/10...54-killed-and-333-forced-to-eat-beef-in-2022/

Someone has to call them out especially when the whole world is consciously turning a blind eye

 

[Adam 🍎]

Tell that to Hindus in Bangladesh
https://www.opindia.com/2023/02/14-...angladesh-idols-vandalized-tossed-into-ponds/
https://organiser.org/2023/02/02/10...54-killed-and-333-forced-to-eat-beef-in-2022/

Someone has to call them out especially when the whole world is consciously turning a blind eye

No one turns a blind eye.

You prosecute them, jail them and move on

But to outright put the blame of dozen idiots on billion+ religiom is downright stupid


And FYI while terrible 66 rapes and 154 kills in year isnt a lot considering your population in Bangladesh.