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I don't infantilize, I use simple sociologic principle. And no, you don't, that why you must cease fire first. That's non negociable.
We are not in a place were we can't accept that a people can't feel safe. Of course they won't feel safe, that's the job of the gov to reassure them with REAL PEACE offers. Only by peace will israelian find peace.
There was a HUGE mistake from the israelian gov, that festival and that raid shouldn't have happen. The IDF has enough ressource to avoid that. There will be no next time.
Yes it is, its simple sociologic principle. Those in position of domination are the one who can turn the balance, not those under domination.
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No, scientific. and Logic.
We are not in a place were we can't accept that a people can't feel safe. Of course they won't feel safe, that's the job of the gov to reassure them with REAL PEACE offers. Only by peace will israelian find peace.
There was a HUGE mistake from the israelian gov, that festival and that raid shouldn't have happen. The IDF has enough ressource to avoid that. There will be no next time.
Yes it is, its simple sociologic principle. Those in position of domination are the one who can turn the balance, not those under domination.
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No, scientific. and Logic.
> says there’s no proof of beheading 40 babies
> I agree, but point out there’s proof of beheadings
> says there’s no proof of beheadings overall
> provide proof of beheadings
> says the journalist are paid by IDF, confidently taunts me to provide proof
> provide proof
>backs down and pedals back to the initial statement
I am surrounded by idiots
> I agree, but point out there’s proof of beheadings
> says there’s no proof of beheadings overall
> provide proof of beheadings
> says the journalist are paid by IDF, confidently taunts me to provide proof
> provide proof
>backs down and pedals back to the initial statement
I am surrounded by idiots
Islamists being supremacists again as they masquerade as the quintessential victim. They believe it absolves them of all responsibility or culpability in any sense of the word, no matter how big or small. A call for genocide dressed in the clothes of righteous justice.
Honestly, people like Sekai Saikyo can claim they disagree with Hamas, but he denies most evidence of their wrongdoing and tbh, so do you. I won't hide it, you denying things and claiming there is no evidence does not make me too fond of what you are saying. Nonetheless, perhaps I was a little too heavy handed in my comments. Sorry on that part.
Honestly, people like Sekai Saikyo can claim they disagree with Hamas, but he denies most evidence of their wrongdoing and tbh, so do you. I won't hide it, you denying things and claiming there is no evidence does not make me too fond of what you are saying. Nonetheless, perhaps I was a little too heavy handed in my comments. Sorry on that part.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/intern...es-israel-hamas-war-inflame-social-rcna119902
https://news.sky.com/story/its-impo...-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329
The first source is the IDF.
Not literally a man close to Bibi, but directly his hand.
https://news.sky.com/story/its-impo...-report-of-beheaded-babies-in-israel-12982329
The first source is the IDF.
Not literally a man close to Bibi, but directly his hand.
I feel that when we are talking about human lifes, truth reigns supreme.
If somebody claims something and uses it as a casus belli for mass punishment and crimes against humanity (bombing churches and hospitals, cutting water and electricity), then proof is necessary.
It shocks me that you would trust anyone based only on their words.
If I said I was the president of Cuba, you'd trust me? Or you'd ask me for proof?
If somebody claims something and uses it as a casus belli for mass punishment and crimes against humanity (bombing churches and hospitals, cutting water and electricity), then proof is necessary.
It shocks me that you would trust anyone based only on their words.
If I said I was the president of Cuba, you'd trust me? Or you'd ask me for proof?
Several independent sources lean towards the missile coming from Gaza
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...-rocket-gaza-e0fa550faa4678f024797b72132452e3
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/21/...ensic-analysis-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061
https://apnews.com/article/israel-p...-rocket-gaza-e0fa550faa4678f024797b72132452e3
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/21/...ensic-analysis-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67144061
> says there’s no proof of beheading 40 babies
> I agree, but point out there’s proof of beheadings
> says there’s no proof of beheadings overall
> provide proof of beheadings
> says the journalist are paid by IDF, confidently taunts me to provide proof
> provide proof
>backs down and pedals back to the initial statement
I am surrounded by idiots
> I agree, but point out there’s proof of beheadings
> says there’s no proof of beheadings overall
> provide proof of beheadings
> says the journalist are paid by IDF, confidently taunts me to provide proof
> provide proof
>backs down and pedals back to the initial statement
I am surrounded by idiots
But no, I never said that journalists are paid by the IDF, just that they spout propaganda are are clearly partial. And you know the proof?
The proof is that no media is calling what is happening a Crime against Humanity.
Honestly, the whole occupation argument makes my blood run cold when I think of the great population displacement that is happening in many Western countries, as well as my own. I've seen many people have their families uprooted as the entire community was funnelled Islamic/Muslim refugees and migrants who then abused and berated them out of their homes, raped their daughters (Rotherham scandal) and made them feel unsafe in their own communities. I find it to be a form of neo-colonialism, but nobody seems to care because they're Islamic.
Yet, all I hear all day is "white colonialism" which is a thing of the fucking past being parroted as the root-cause of the suffering of Muslims in Palestine... The double-standard is... very noticable. And yet, everyone has the PERFECT argument. You're a racist, blah blah.
Thing is, it's not skin colour I care about. It's, in my case, British values and culture. Many of these immigrants do not embrace British culture. In fact, they despise it. You can be black, brown, Asian, white, Hispanic, I don't really care about that. It's about being British by culture and identity. Yet, saying this, people will just call the concerns of every day people in my country as the words of racists. I don't think so... it's neo-colonialism, enabled by global elite and encouraged by intersectionalists.
Yet, all I hear all day is "white colonialism" which is a thing of the fucking past being parroted as the root-cause of the suffering of Muslims in Palestine... The double-standard is... very noticable. And yet, everyone has the PERFECT argument. You're a racist, blah blah.
Thing is, it's not skin colour I care about. It's, in my case, British values and culture. Many of these immigrants do not embrace British culture. In fact, they despise it. You can be black, brown, Asian, white, Hispanic, I don't really care about that. It's about being British by culture and identity. Yet, saying this, people will just call the concerns of every day people in my country as the words of racists. I don't think so... it's neo-colonialism, enabled by global elite and encouraged by intersectionalists.
CNN and BBC? Independent? Okay 
The so called evidence:
"A lack of forensic evidence and the difficulty of gathering that material on the ground in the middle of a war means there is no definitive proof the break-up of the rocket and the explosion at the hospital are linked."
"Without the ability to access the site and gather evidence from the ground, no conclusion can be definitive."
And the BBC ain't got it either. Clearly your desperate for it to be Hamas, so you can justify you zionist sympathising behaviour.
I'll believe Netanyahu's media guru, who admitted to it and IDF page on Facebook who boasted about it before deleting their posts.
But you carry on
The so called evidence:
"A lack of forensic evidence and the difficulty of gathering that material on the ground in the middle of a war means there is no definitive proof the break-up of the rocket and the explosion at the hospital are linked."
"Without the ability to access the site and gather evidence from the ground, no conclusion can be definitive."
And the BBC ain't got it either. Clearly your desperate for it to be Hamas, so you can justify you zionist sympathising behaviour.
I'll believe Netanyahu's media guru, who admitted to it and IDF page on Facebook who boasted about it before deleting their posts.
But you carry on
Think it’s funny how there are tons of Jewish scholars and activists who are openly pro Palestine yet you never see many Arabs who support israel.
Like not doubting that such people exist. If Kanye can love Hitler I’m sure there are some Arabs that love Israel.
But you never really hear from those people. Meanwhile progressive Jewish groups in America have been holding massive protests in support of Palestine.
Like not doubting that such people exist. If Kanye can love Hitler I’m sure there are some Arabs that love Israel.
But you never really hear from those people. Meanwhile progressive Jewish groups in America have been holding massive protests in support of Palestine.
Except they are, where do people get the confidence to spout stuff like this?
https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...-israel-committing-war-crimes-fight-103970468
again, you guys just find the stuff you’re looking for.
again, you guys just find the stuff you’re looking for.