Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Except they are, where do people get the confidence to spout stuff like this?

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...-israel-committing-war-crimes-fight-103970468

again, you guys just find the stuff you’re looking for.

Lol, are you kidding me.
They closed the water of Gaza like 5 days ago, where are all the opinion pieces, all the heads of states, all the UN members calling to send weapons to Gaza in defense of the strong imperialist aggressor?
Compare the newspapers when Russia invaded Ukraine (for the second time) to what is happening now, and if you don't see any difference you are just in bad faith.

 

[Okamakama]

The great replacement is a racist and antisemitic conspiracy theory

Huh... I didn't even know that was a theory. I'll look into it, but it's probably batshit.

Nonetheless, I've seen many people displaced. People do not listen to people who live in the poorer communities. They stare at them from ivory towers or their gated communities. Are you really trying to deny the statistics of the situation? The only reason people ignore it in my country is often being afraid of being called racist. And, as I said, I don't care about skin colour, it's all about British Values. And those are being eroded by a minority populace that is only growing and not integrating with the UK.

 

[Roo]

CNN and BBC? Independent? Okay

CNN is independen BBC has actually been sued for leaning anti Israel lmao

The so called evidence:

"A lack of forensic evidence and the difficulty of gathering that material on the ground in the middle of a war means there is no definitive proof the break-up of the rocket and the explosion at the hospital are linked."

"Without the ability to access the site and gather evidence from the ground, no conclusion can be definitive."

And the BBC ain't got it either. Clearly your desperate for it to be Hamas, so you can justify you zionist sympathising behaviour.

Did you watch the channel 4 analysis? They were inconclusive as well.

I'll believe Netanyahu's media guru,

you mean the random YouTuber who has no role in the IDF and is basically just a propagandist?

who admitted to it and IDF page on Facebook who boasted about it before deleting their posts.

But you carry on

That page was confirmed to be fake lol

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

CNN is independen BBC has actually been sued for leaning anti Israel lmao




Did you watch the channel 4 analysis? They were inconclusive as well.



you mean the random YouTuber who has no role in the IDF and is basically just a propagandist?


That page was confirmed to be fake lol

BBC is not independent by the simple fact that is tied to the UK government.
And the UK government is pro Israel.

 

[Zenos7]

No?! Are you playing dumb now?

no bro, but i definitely feel dumb now as im living in germany lmfao

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Did you watch the channel 4 analysis? They were inconclusive as well.

See, we agree on something.
I said al Jazeera is partial, Channel 4 is partial.
Nobody can know what happened. BUT the western public opinion is set that it was Hamas.

And they are also bombing churches now.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

And yet I've seen many people displaced. People do not listen to people who live in the poorer communities. They stare at them from ivory towers or their gated communities. Are you really trying to deny the statistics of the situation? The only reason people ignore it in my country is often being afraid of being called racist. And, as I said, I don't care about skin colour, it's all about British Values. And those are being eroded by a minority populace that is only growing and not integrating with the UK.

How is there displacement? Are immigrants kicking the white British out of their homes?

White flight isn’t the same as literal ethnic cleansings.

 

[Roo]

Lol, are you kidding me.
They closed the water of Gaza like 5 days ago, where are all the opinion pieces, all the heads of states, all the UN members calling to send weapons to Gaza in defense of the strong imperialist aggressor?
Compare the newspapers when Russia invaded Ukraine (for the second time) to what is happening now, and if you don't see any difference you are just in bad faith.

Wait a minute? Are talking about the UN or the media? Don’t accuse me of being bad faith when you move the goalposts.

The media is doing its job, reporting what’s going on in Gaza. The UN on the other hand is doing its job calling for a ceasefire

https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...es-ceasefire-to-end-gaza-s-godawful-nightmare

I wasn’t aware the UN called for Ukraine to be backed up by the west, considering Russia is part of the UN

 

[Monkey D Theories]

And how do you even know that immigrants aren’t integrating with the UK? Is there any data to back this up? Or is this just racist paranoia?

 

[Roo]

See, we agree on something.
I said al Jazeera is partial, Channel 4 is partial.
Nobody can know what happened. BUT the western public opinion is set that it was Hamas.

And they are also bombing churches now.

No, Al Jazeera said it was a phantom IDF plane lol.

Channel 4 said is inconclusive, western media and intelligence community leans towards the missile being from Gaza. They don’t have to adhere to Channel 4

 

[Okamakama]

How is there displacement? Are immigrants kicking the white British out of their homes?

White flight isn’t the same as literal ethnic cleansings.

I've seen and heard stories of Muslim individuals who bully, berate and harass white individuals in poorer neighbourhoods. Look into the Rotherham scandal to see how these things happen. The police literally allowed a grooming gang to exist for YEARS because they believed it was problematic for them to step in (they were scared of being called racist). The police do not help in this country. They actively oppress. You just have to see people being arrested for having British flags during the pro-Palestine marches in London (where people cried for a global Jihad) to see this. If the police don't protect you, and you're not allowed to defend yourself, you move. It's the only way.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Wait a minute? Are talking about the UN or the media? Don’t accuse me of being bad faith when you move the goalposts.

The media is doing its job, reporting what’s going on in Gaza. The UN on the other hand is doing its job calling for a ceasefire

https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...es-ceasefire-to-end-gaza-s-godawful-nightmare

I wasn’t aware the UN called for Ukraine to be backed up by the west, considering Russia is part of the UN

You are right, let's address the media thing first:
At least in the country where I live, the war has disappeared. There is no news of the bombardment, there is 1 article about the war on the front page, the rest is just other noise.
This is completely anecdotical, of course, but I cannot prove it to you in any other way.
I also told you about the difference between the reaction to Russia and the reaction to Ukraine, which are two very similar episodes on many sides, but you ignored that.

https://www.theguardian.com/
Check the first page: No mention of war crimes.


Talking about the EU, the representative of the EU Ursula van der Leyen has called Putin a war criminal. Because he cut water and electricity in Ukrain.
Israel has done the same, has enforced for 70 years and apartheid state AND is bombing churches and hospitals. She said nothing.

EDIT: I am calling UN what is EU, apologies. My mistake.

The UN just declared Putin a war criminal through the ICC
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situat...ants-against-vladimir-vladimirovich-putin-and
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No, Al Jazeera said it was a phantom IDF plane lol.

Channel 4 said is inconclusive, western media and intelligence community leans towards the missile being from Gaza. They don’t have to adhere to Channel 4

So the Al Jazeera position, that is quite credible if you actually see the video, is a LOL for you.
The other one is confirmed by the same people that defend the right of israel to perform genocide. Mh, no conflict of interest there.

I don't believe either, and I frankly think it's only one missile, when there is 5700 civilians murdered by a terrorist state attack.

 

[Okamakama]

And how do you even know that immigrants aren’t integrating with the UK? Is there any data to back this up? Or is this just racist paranoia?

There are large pockets of the UK that have zero British nationals. This means that individuals who moved here, lived here, never became citizens. My local GP has to have doctors that can communicate in Urdu because people don't know English. There are Muslims who, when celebrating Hamas' actions in London stood on statues, tore them down in the past, and in general, just disrespect our own cultural icons. Is it really hard to imagine that a group of people who are here solely for economic benefits have no love or loyalty to the UK? On top of anecdotal evidence, you can look into the many scandals that the police cover-up, with Rotherham being the major one.

They are not integrating, they are expecting the country to bend to them. Go to BHX airport and the majority of the signs are in Arabic because the people cannot speak English. Knowing the language of the land is the first step to integration, and many are failing at that.

But once again, call the concerns of natives as racist. It's easier than admitting that there is something sinister going on. It's why people across Europe are getting fed up. A pensioner in my country was stabbed to death by a "refugee".

Maybe you don't get it. Maybe you just feel it's just. Maybe, just maybe, you want it to happen. I wouldn't be surprised. The amount of anti-White, anti-native against Western populations is staggering.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I've seen and heard stories of Muslim individuals who bully, berate and harass white individuals in poorer neighbourhoods. Look into the Rotherham scandal to see how these things happen. The police literally allowed a grooming gang to exist for YEARS because they believed it was problematic for them to step in (they were scared of being called racist). The police do not help in this country. They actively oppress. You just have to see people being arrested for having British flags during the pro-Palestine marches in London (where people cried for a global Jihad) to see this. If the police don't protect you, and you're not allowed to defend yourself, you move. It's the only way.

its not the fault of immigrants that the police is incapable of properly doing their job

 

[Roo]

You are right, let's address the media thing first:
At least in the country where I live, the war has disappeared. There is no news of the bombardment, there is 1 article about the war on the front page, the rest is just other noise.
This is completely anecdotical, of course, but I cannot prove it to you in any other way.
I also told you about the difference between the reaction to Russia and the reaction to Ukraine, which are two very similar episodes on many sides, but you ignored that.

https://www.theguardian.com/
Check the first page: No mention of war crimes.

Then you have an issue with the guardian, not the media.

Talking about the UN, the representative of the UN Ursula van der Leyen has called Putin a war criminal. Because he cut water and electricity in Ukrain.
Israel has done the same, has enforced for 70 years and apartheid state AND is bombing churches and hospitals. She said nothing.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen

This lady is not part of the UN. What are you talking about?

So the Al Jazeera position, that is quite credible if you actually see the video, is a LOL for you.

I did, they said a phantom warplane dropped a srike as a missile was being intercept by the iron dome. You realize how unlikely that is? We’ve also have seen the damage. Even channel 4 doesn’t think it’s consistent with an Israeli strike. Instead they said if the IDF had done it would have to be a drone, which again, there’s no proof of it in any of the videos we’ve seen.

The other one is confirmed by the same people that defend the right of israel to perform genocide. Mh, no conflict of interest there.

Al Jazeera does have a conflict of interest lol. They’re a state run media of Qatar, they same people who house Hamas in luxurious mansions

I don't believe either, and I frankly think it's only one missile, when there is 5700 civilians murdered by a terrorist state attack.

you don’t believe either, but believe Israel did it despite no proof?

yeah no, this is called being an ideologue
edit: btw those numbers are inflated. Don’t forget the Gaza health ministry claimed 500 died from the hospital attack

 

[Monkey D Theories]

. It's easier than admitting that there is something sinister going on.

What’s the sinister thing?

That Jews are using minorities to dumb down and replace the white race so they can fulfill their world domination plans?

 

[NikaInParis]

> Britain destabilizes the Middle East (and the majority of the world for centuries)
> puppet governments are established when Britain removes its forces from the region
> The region is further destabilized by those puppet governments
> People flee for more perspective places, Britain being one of them
> "DAE why so many brown skinned people in my neighbourhood, bruv?"

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Then you have an issue with the guardian, not the media.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen

This lady is not part of the UN. What are you talking about?

I already corrected, I was making confusion with Acronyms, I already edited and apologised for that.
The points of course, still stands.

I did, they said a phantom warplane dropped a srike as a missile was being intercept by the iron dome. You realize how unlikely that is? We’ve also have seen the damage. Even channel 4 doesn’t think it’s consistent with an Israeli strike. Instead they said if the IDF had done it would have to be a drone, which again, there’s no proof of it in any of the videos we’ve seen.


Al Jazeera does have a conflict of interest lol. They’re a state run media of Qatar, they same people who house Hamas in luxurious mansions

you don’t believe either, but believe Israel did it despite no proof?

yeah no, this is called being an ideologue

I said in a previous post that Al Jazeera is a partial source, my friend. I could have re-stated it, but since you are reading my messages so carefully, I though you remembered that:

See, we agree on something.
I said al Jazeera is partial, Channel 4 is partial.
Nobody can know what happened. BUT the western public opinion is set that it was Hamas.

And they are also bombing churches now.

Also, you are not reading my message, I never said I believe IDF did it. I really don't know who did it, I said it doesn't matter, because it's 1 missile out of thousands, and there are 5700 murdered civilians.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And, as I said, I don't care about skin colour, it's all about British Values. And those are being eroded by a minority populace that is only growing and not integrating with the UK.

It's reverse colonialism.

 

[NAMELESS]

Good to see all of you guys going at each other again in this thread.I reminds me of a time were we had fun here.