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Self made millionare doesn't mean anything.
People say bill gates is a self made millionare, when his mother was on the boatd of IBM and ibm invested in microsoft.
One of the victor6 of moder capitalism is hypnotise the population by making them think that everyone can make it.
Which is simply not true.
If any of us has a ground breaking idea, or even a shitty one, we have 0 contacts to make it happen.
And this is the only reality, unless you somebody that will finance you, or you are rich yourself, the chances are infinitesimally small.
It is not random thay all these "self made" are all from the same univesities and same cliques.
People say bill gates is a self made millionare, when his mother was on the boatd of IBM and ibm invested in microsoft.
One of the victor6 of moder capitalism is hypnotise the population by making them think that everyone can make it.
Which is simply not true.
If any of us has a ground breaking idea, or even a shitty one, we have 0 contacts to make it happen.
And this is the only reality, unless you somebody that will finance you, or you are rich yourself, the chances are infinitesimally small.
It is not random thay all these "self made" are all from the same univesities and same cliques.
This is not a study, this is an article referencing one REPORT and one SURVEY. Plus looking at the founding of those results, there is high reasons to believe there are high dosage of bias involve, therefore making those results unreliable from a sociological standpoint.
The simple fact that none of those report define what "self made" is when it is sociologically very tricky to answer is saying a lot. (you just have to look at the survey from fidelity, "today’s millionaires did not consider themselves wealthy growing up", I do not consider myself wealthy growing up either.. I was still raised in the upper of the middle class, so this survey is simply bonker from a scientific and sociological standpoint.)
In reality, merit does not exist. Being rich is the result of the addition of your social, culture and wealth capital and a lot of luck. You can keep thinking that you will become a billionaire just by dreaming that other managed to do it by merit, but this is not how it works. You have more chances becoming rich by playing in a casino.
Study from capitalist to capitalist are doomed to be biased because the reality is not capitalism mate.
The reality is that wealth comes from priviledge.
But hey.. you are the proof that the far right will ride or die with capitalism...
The simple fact that none of those report define what "self made" is when it is sociologically very tricky to answer is saying a lot. (you just have to look at the survey from fidelity, "today’s millionaires did not consider themselves wealthy growing up", I do not consider myself wealthy growing up either.. I was still raised in the upper of the middle class, so this survey is simply bonker from a scientific and sociological standpoint.)
In reality, merit does not exist. Being rich is the result of the addition of your social, culture and wealth capital and a lot of luck. You can keep thinking that you will become a billionaire just by dreaming that other managed to do it by merit, but this is not how it works. You have more chances becoming rich by playing in a casino.
Study from capitalist to capitalist are doomed to be biased because the reality is not capitalism mate.
The reality is that wealth comes from priviledge.
But hey.. you are the proof that the far right will ride or die with capitalism...
You haven't seen anything. What you are experiencing is the survivorship bias.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
In reality, wealth comes from luck.. and inheritance most of the time with some exceptions.
https://www.ft.com/content/747a76dd-f018-4d0d-a9f3-4069bf2f5a93
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/30/inh...th-to-billionaires-than-entrepreneurship.html
Volontaraly nourrishing the myth of the self made man is only a way not to redistribute wealth in a world where 1% of the population have twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together.
This is not only dangerous, this is plainly STUPID and SUICIDUAL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias
In reality, wealth comes from luck.. and inheritance most of the time with some exceptions.
https://www.ft.com/content/747a76dd-f018-4d0d-a9f3-4069bf2f5a93
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/30/inh...th-to-billionaires-than-entrepreneurship.html
Volontaraly nourrishing the myth of the self made man is only a way not to redistribute wealth in a world where 1% of the population have twice as much wealth as the rest of the world put together.
This is not only dangerous, this is plainly STUPID and SUICIDUAL.
No its not just "a" factor, its THE biggest factor (for priviledge people, for others its something else).
And ? We are talking about the upper upper class here, not the middle class.
See, the thing you don't understand, is to start a startup which has a chance in 1 million to hit the jackpot (I'm voluntarily exagerating), you already need to have a CAPITAL in term of knowledge and culture. Something only a few people have.
This capital is not something you aquire magically, it related to your place in the social structure. In short, its based on where you are born and most likely the ressources of your family in term of wealth and culture.
That's the problem with capitalist like you guys.. they don't understand the reality of classes and why the myth of the "self made man" is actually just really the story of an already priviledge white man who had a really good luck.
And ? We are talking about the upper upper class here, not the middle class.
See, the thing you don't understand, is to start a startup which has a chance in 1 million to hit the jackpot (I'm voluntarily exagerating), you already need to have a CAPITAL in term of knowledge and culture. Something only a few people have.
This capital is not something you aquire magically, it related to your place in the social structure. In short, its based on where you are born and most likely the ressources of your family in term of wealth and culture.
That's the problem with capitalist like you guys.. they don't understand the reality of classes and why the myth of the "self made man" is actually just really the story of an already priviledge white man who had a really good luck.
Not really, biggest predictor for wealth is education.
My comment was “most millionaires are self made”
And since when are multimillionaires middle class lmao
Tf are you talking about? And no shit not every startup is going to succeed. That’s impossible in any setting.
the fact is finding investors is not that hard.
Bruh I literally worked in finance LMAO
I know infinitely more about this topic than you. I am not exaggerating when I say millions or startup are created every year in the U.S.
My comment was “most millionaires are self made”
And since when are multimillionaires middle class lmao
Tf are you talking about? And no shit not every startup is going to succeed. That’s impossible in any setting.
the fact is finding investors is not that hard.
Bruh I literally worked in finance LMAO
I know infinitely more about this topic than you. I am not exaggerating when I say millions or startup are created every year in the U.S.
Its not about him its about the data. That's sociological. A white man has higher chances to gain wealth in our racist world than a racialized man.. and I'm not even talking about the chances of women ....
And tell me, when poor and wealthy people don't get to access the same education, how in the world do you manage to make the world a wealthy place ? hmmm ???
My point exactly, we are not talking about the middle class but billionnaires and milllionaires. In short, those who currently possesses almost all the wealth in the world.
The F I'm talking about ? Sociology is what I'm talking about. THe way the society is structured and the way people have access to knowledge and wealth. And spoilers: This access is not equal and it begins at birth.
And ? Macron is a president... it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't understand jack sh*t about the reality of social structure and wealth distribution or the way we aquire wealth or the way we should treat people more equally or the way we should fight fascism or the way we should.... ETC. ETC.
I don't care about your background mate, you just made a very ignorant stance on self made men, your point of view is therefore not relevant on the subject.
And tell me, when poor and wealthy people don't get to access the same education, how in the world do you manage to make the world a wealthy place ? hmmm ???
My point exactly, we are not talking about the middle class but billionnaires and milllionaires. In short, those who currently possesses almost all the wealth in the world.
The F I'm talking about ? Sociology is what I'm talking about. THe way the society is structured and the way people have access to knowledge and wealth. And spoilers: This access is not equal and it begins at birth.
And ? Macron is a president... it doesn't change the fact that he doesn't understand jack sh*t about the reality of social structure and wealth distribution or the way we aquire wealth or the way we should treat people more equally or the way we should fight fascism or the way we should.... ETC. ETC.
I don't care about your background mate, you just made a very ignorant stance on self made men, your point of view is therefore not relevant on the subject.
