nah, you are just mischaracterizing what im saying. or misunderstanding.
Then, tell me where I'm wrong instead of saying "you can't read".


i kinda did explain though. you arent getting what im saying. therefore there is no contradiction. or you do get it but you are deliberately dishonest about it. pick your poison.
If you say so. People can see and judge for themselves.

I'm the one having the most pleasure here. :cheers:


me not subscribing to a single ideology(!) is nowhere close to me not subscribing to values?!
Not what I said. Again, you didn't read.

What I said is:
Not subscribing to ANY ideology means not subscribing to ANY values. And it was not specifically aimed at you mate.
What you understoodis:
You are not subscribing to a single a single ideology therefore you are not subscribing to any values.

> Not the same sentence, not the same meaning, not at all what I said.

For once. Please. Read.

yes, i take sides on a case by case basis, so not "sometimes" either.
"Case by case" is "sometimes" for me but ok. If you prefer.

either way, you are wrong.
And again, you are not saying why.


i also mean gender. but the definition based on gender identity as opposed to gender roles. or how do you define "gender"?

apparently none of the multiple dictionary definitions? lmfao
I define gender as science define it. You prefer to use dictionnaries. Not the same process.


if it exerts influence on society, such as government and politics. that doesnt mean new atheism is about reorganizing society based on science.
That's literally what a reorganization of society is and could look like mate, and since the majority of societies are based on religions or faith or beliefs systems, this uncompass the entire world.
For real.. you are tiring. You know full well that you don't master the subject, but you keep going....:seriously:

I WAS a follower of the new atheism movement and a FAN of Dawkins a few years back !! And in the groups I followed we were literally talking about reorganizing societies through a rationnal lens following discourse of the "thinking leaders" like Dawkins. When I say that this movement is problematic, its not just because I read about it on reddit, its because the biases that came with following this movement directly impacted my vision of society and religion and created a lot of biases and illegitimate hate.


how is "any one ideology" or "a single ideology" any different?

its really the same thing lmfao.
No, but if you want.:luuh:


and well i did in the course of our discussion use that phrasing here for example
Same phrasing problem lol...


Not really contradicting me here mate... :/
But again you will try to sort your way out of the argument with the help of dictionnaries definitions (that are not really helping you really.. ) instead of actually trying to debunk the subject of my argumentation.. being that when you hold no ideology/doctrine/beliefs (call it however you want), you hold no values and therefore being neutral is just the fact of not holding values. Which is simply impossible and just plainly unethical.


Not gonna lie, this disturbing level of dishonesty is low-key worse than @Bob74h saying we need to force every woman to be married off.
Again, you are proving nothing here, you just said "you said something wrong" (I did not) without even explaining why and how its wrong...

This is your entire argumentation : Wind.


so i didnt say that the party i vote is centre-left-environmental.
Ok, did not say you did either.
ikr bruh that one is @Logiko's biggest nonsense statement in a while
Well, this means that you don't understand either why not taking side is always taking a side
:kayneshrug:
 
That's literally what a reorganization of society is and could look like mate, and since the majority of societies are based on religions or faith or beliefs systems, this uncompass the entire world.
For real.. you are tiring. You know full well that you don't master the subject, but you keep going....:seriously:

I WAS a follower of the new atheism movement and a FAN of Dawkins a few years back !! And in the groups I followed we were literally talking about reorganizing societies through a rationnal lens following discourse of the "thinking leaders" like Dawkins. When I say that this movement is problematic, its not just because I read about it on reddit, its because the biases that came with following this movement directly impacted my vision of society and religion and created a lot of biases and illegitimate hate.
"you dont master the subject but keep going"
bro, that first paragraph literally doesnt say what you claim it is saying lmfao xD i dont need to master anything to expose you on this

and well, you doing this shit or you following weird groups doesnt mean dawkins or any other of the supposed "new atheists" are doing that. and the wiki article doesnt say that at all. it talks about criticising religion if religious people base society on its values lmao.
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I'm no big fan of his, I've had spats with the guy in the past, but there are many users who are as bad as he is if not more.
ye bob is pretty bad as well
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@HopOnTheHype came closer than all the rest.
oh yeah that dude was also a nutjob
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Same phrasing problem lol...
so if i phrase it like you want it phrased its still a problem. . . . figures, because you are an inconsistent hypocritical lunatic.
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Well, this means that you don't understand either why not taking side is always taking a side
this already shows how you arent actually reading what im saying.

you arent here for actual discourse buddy and it shows.

on another note: what is the action you take against the oppression? other than posting here of course
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Again, you are proving nothing here
lmfao, i clearly showed you posting that being neutral (i.e. what you think is what i said about myself) equals to not caring.

and then you say you dont remember saying that i dont care.

thats a very obvious lie lmao.
 
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GodMommie
Hey folks, I’m feeling like contributing to society today.

I think I might shit my pants in a crowded elevator to protest climate change.
I don't wanna see you on libs of TikTok. Please reconsider.
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Left people were always racist. The KKK was created by democrats if im not mistaken.
A lot of racist systems and laws were created by democrats.

I never looked into it myself so this is as good a hear say. I don't even know her political party. I heard the women who formed planned parenthood were extremely racist, which is why they created it to lower minority populations. Like I said don't quote me on that.
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I don't like that YouTuber. I feel like he rewrites facts for his narrative. Very click baity. Though I have seen this story come up on a few channels so I plan on watching it eventually.
 
Nah I think men are more your style.
Kek
I want to joke about this so badly but AL will tell me i'm gaslighting or baiting.
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A lot of racist systems and laws were created by democrats.

I never looked into it myself so this is as good a hear say. I don't even know her political party. I heard the women who formed planned parenthood were extremely racist, which is why they created it to lower minority populations. Like I said don't quote me on that.
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I don't like that YouTuber. I feel like he rewrites facts for his narrative. Very click baity. Though I have seen this story come up on a few channels so I plan on watching it eventually.
Its the Marxist theory at play(class struggle). They create divisions in society to make people fight.
 
I disagree, wholeheartedly here. Sure people suck, depending on person to person. But C4N scales far worse and on a bigger scale, it's incomparable.
@HopOnTheHype came closer than all the rest.
Bob wants women to be forced to marry without them having any sort of say in the matter. Nameless has openly stated that communists should be hunted down and executed.

C4N just has a superiority complex. He's annoying yes, but he has never called for any sort of death penalty due to political affiliation or depriving citizens of their right to choose.
 
Bob wants women to be forced to marry without them having any sort of say in the matter. Nameless has openly stated that communists should be hunted down and executed.

C4N just has a superiority complex. He's annoying yes, but he has never called for any sort of death penalty due to political affiliation or depriving citizens of their right to choose.
Communist=Nazi. If i said the said the same about Nazis,you wouldnt be bitching. Its cool to bash nazis,because they are dead and have no power. Communist/socialist are the status quo. you can get cancelled,sued,put in jail or executed(depending where you live) over remarks like this. I'm a proud anti-communist. Deal with it,pussy. You spit on the grave of a 100 million people killed by this ideology.
Also,i don't really recall talking about execution. I do remember talking about using the Polish method(jail). Care to dig those quotes? If its guerrilla fighters,drug dealers and terrorists like the ones in Colombia (FARC), then i'm 100% pro execution.
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You guys actually despise c4n with a passion.
He makes an effort to be disliked.
 
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Communist=Nazi. If i said the said the same about Nazis,you wouldnt be bitching. Its cool to bash nazis,because they are dead and have no power. Communist/socialist are the status quo. you can get cancelled,sued,put in jail or executed(depending where you live) over remarks like this. I'm a proud anti-communist. Deal with it,pussy. You spit on the grave of a 100 million people killed by this ideology.
See guys? He veils his unhinged takes and obvious hypocrisy when it comes to tolerance and respect behind the excuse that nazis are communists when any serious academic would laugh this guy out of the room in the face of this ridiculous 4chan level claim. It's not me who has real anger issues and throws tantrums when people call me out. All he's done is bitch and moan about Al not liking him.
 
See guys? He veils his unhinged takes and obvious hypocrisy when it comes to tolerance and respect behind the excuse that nazis are communists when any serious academic would laugh this guy out of the room in the face of this ridiculous 4chan level claim. It's not me who has real anger issues and throws tantrums when people call me out. All he's done is bitch and moan about Al not liking him.
A serious academic knows about all the genocides that happened thnx to the communist ideology,you moron. They literally killed more than Nazis.
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See guys? He veils his unhinged takes and obvious hypocrisy when it comes to tolerance and respect behind the excuse that nazis are communists when any serious academic would laugh this guy out of the room in the face of this ridiculous 4chan level claim. It's not me who has real anger issues and throws tantrums when people call me out. All he's done is bitch and moan about Al not liking him.
You literally mentioned my name and now you pretend i'm going after you,clown move. Call your mod buddies.
 
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GodMommie
A serious academic knows about all the genocides that happened thnx to the communist ideology,you moron. They literally killed moren than Nazis.
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You literally mentioned my name and know you pretend i'm going after you,clown move. Call your mod buddies.
I heard a story once of a man escaping to the sea to get away from communism deciding drowning was better than living like that. (A boat did rescue him.)

I think back to it often because I wonder how bad things really would have to be for me to think that.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
"conspiracy theory"
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I heard a story once of a man escaping to the sea to get away from communism deciding drowning was better than living like that. (A boat did rescue him.)

I think back to it often because I wonder how bad things really would have to be for me to think that.
Cubans do that pretty often,i believe they even get automatic political asylum in America if they land on shore.
What is ridiculous is that this guy comes from a country that has suffered because of this ideology and he thinks he is doing any good by throwing stones at me when i say commie=nazi.
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That nazis are communists? THis is what Al means by you gaslighting others. I don't deny Bolsheviks committing genocide against others, it's how you equate those who believe in communism as an economic model to nazis.
A serious academic knows about all the genocides that happened thnx to the communist ideology,you moron. They literally killed moren than Nazis.
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You literally mentioned my name and know you pretend i'm going after you,clown move. Call your mod buddies.
I've never called Al in here nor am I buddy-buddy with him. He just doesn't like you.
 
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