nah, you are just mischaracterizing what im saying. or misunderstanding.
Then, tell me where I'm wrong instead of saying "you can't read".
i kinda did explain though. you arent getting what im saying. therefore there is no contradiction. or you do get it but you are deliberately dishonest about it. pick your poison.
If you say so. People can see and judge for themselves.
I'm the one having the most pleasure here. :cheers:
me not subscribing to a single ideology(!) is nowhere close to me not subscribing to values?!
Not what I said. Again, you didn't read.
What I said is:
Not subscribing to ANY ideology means not subscribing to ANY values. And it was not specifically aimed at you mate.
What you understoodis:
You are not subscribing to a single a single ideology therefore you are not subscribing to any values.
> Not the same sentence, not the same meaning, not at all what I said.
For once. Please. Read.
yes, i take sides on a case by case basis, so not "sometimes" either.
"Case by case" is "sometimes" for me but ok. If you prefer.
either way, you are wrong.
And again, you are not saying why.
i also mean gender. but the definition based on gender identity as opposed to gender roles. or how do you define "gender"?
apparently none of the multiple dictionary definitions? lmfao
I define gender as science define it. You prefer to use dictionnaries. Not the same process.
if it exerts influence on society, such as government and politics. that doesnt mean new atheism is about reorganizing society based on science.
That's literally what a reorganization of society is and could look like mate, and since the majority of societies are based on religions or faith or beliefs systems, this uncompass the entire world.
For real.. you are tiring. You know full well that you don't master the subject, but you keep going....
I WAS a follower of the new atheism movement and a FAN of Dawkins a few years back !! And in the groups I followed we were literally talking about reorganizing societies through a rationnal lens following discourse of the "thinking leaders" like Dawkins. When I say that this movement is problematic, its not just because I read about it on reddit, its because the biases that came with following this movement directly impacted my vision of society and religion and created a lot of biases and illegitimate hate.
how is "any one ideology" or "a single ideology" any different?
its really the same thing lmfao.
No, but if you want.
and well i did in the course of our discussion use that phrasing here for example
Same phrasing problem lol...
Not really contradicting me here mate... :/
But again you will try to sort your way out of the argument with the help of dictionnaries definitions (that are not really helping you really.. ) instead of actually trying to debunk the subject of my argumentation.. being that when you hold no ideology/doctrine/beliefs (call it however you want), you hold no values and therefore being neutral is just the fact of not holding values. Which is simply impossible and just plainly unethical.
Not gonna lie, this disturbing level of dishonesty is low-key worse than @Bob74h saying we need to force every woman to be married off.
Again, you are proving nothing here, you just said "you said something wrong" (I did not) without even explaining why and how its wrong...
This is your entire argumentation : Wind.
so i didnt say that the party i vote is centre-left-environmental.
Ok, did not say you did either.
ikr bruh that one is @Logiko's biggest nonsense statement in a while
Well, this means that you don't understand either why not taking side is always taking a side
