Controversial General Political Discussion

[Toby D. Dog]

Trump was better, he was one of the most peaceful US presidents. Under Biden/Harris ha got war of all kinds all across the globe.
If you want to insult people, at least stop hiding behind a finger and admit your doings. You respond to posts debating you with insults and namecalling. In fact, you are insulting me again in this post, I am only trying to tone down because these are the rules of the section. I repeat, either talk normally or start putting people on ignore if you can't control yourself.

So a guy who killed a top Iranian general, increased drone strikes by 400% and massivley increased civilian casualties in all US military operations, received 100 million dollars from Miriam Adelson so he does her bidding on Israel, let Israel annex Syrian territory, Bombed Somalia, dropped the most powerful non nuclear bomb in Afghanistan, tried to coup Venezuela, armed the Saudis so they could do their genocide in Yemen, Increased the military budget every single year throughout his presidency, Wants to bomb the cartels in Mexican territory, is the most peaceful US president? How can I not call out your ignorance and stupidity when all you do is gobble up rightwing propaganda?


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no

Then what's your point?

 

[Zenos7]

Women do not consent being grabbed by their pussy.

 

[Logiko]

Under Biden/Harris ha got war of all kinds all across the globe

Tell me. Did Biden started a war ?

I just prefer looking at facts you see.

No you don't lol

You are in post-truth mode. You invent your own narrative and fact. They are not real.

Facts is 40+k people dead with Biden and Harris crying on TV pretending they give a shit while they send billions in weapons to Israel the very next day.

This is true. And meanwhile, Trump was saying that Israel should finish the job. > Fact.

At the very worst, they would do the same kind of shit in Palestine but under him the situation in Europe would most likely get better.

WRONG. It would not. Why ? because Trump would stop helping Ukraine. Which would destabilized the region and create potentially more conflict and more reason for Russia to invade other country. And thus bringing the world even closer to WWIII. (without mentionning the fact that Ukrainians would be wiped out of course, but you don't seem to care)

Then what's your point?

To contradict me. He has been doing this since the beginning of this thread. And usually without even understanding that there is no logic behind his argumentation and most of the time siding with the worst people here.

 

[Mathias]

I'm surprised Trump never talked about Nord Stream 2 having very high chances of being an "inside job" (pretty much confirmed to be honest). This is a breach that he could have used to withdraw US weapons from Ukraine.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I'm surprised Trump never talked about Nord Stream 2 having very high chances of being an "inside job" (pretty much confirmed to be honest). This is a breach that he could have used to withdraw US weapons from Ukraine.

That's a Russian owned pipeline. It is by definition not an inside job since Ukraine did it.

 

[Logiko]

That's a Russian owned pipeline. It is by definition not an inside job since Ukraine did it.

I think he meant an inside job from the US. Not Russia. This would be logical to attack Biden.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

So a guy who killed a top Iranian general, increased drone strikes by 400% and massivley increased civilian casualties in all US military operations, received 100 million dollars from Miriam Adelson so he does her bidding on Israel, let Israel annex Syrian territory, Bombed Somalia, dropped the most powerful non nuclear bomb in Afghanistan, tried to coup Venezuela, armed the Saudis so they could do their genocide in Yemen, Increased the military budget every single year throughout his presidency, Wants to bomb the cartels in Mexican territory, is the most peaceful US president? How can I not call out your ignorance and stupidity when all you do is gobble up rightwing propaganda?


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Then what's your point?

Yes, all the things you mentioned are basically nothing compared to the usual US warmongering. Did you know Soleimani personally? Was he your friend? It seems you're all livid over his death and consider it equivalent to a major war.

Tell me. Did Biden started a war ?





No you don't lol

You are in post-truth mode. You invent your own narrative and fact. They are not real.



This is true. And meanwhile, Trump was saying that Israel should finish the job. > Fact.



WRONG. It would not. Why ? because Trump would stop helping Ukraine. Which would destabilized the region and create potentially more conflict and more reason for Russia to invade other country. And thus bringing the world even closer to WWIII. (without mentionning the fact that Ukrainians would be wiped out of course, but you don't seem to care)



To contradict me. He has been doing this since the beginning of this thread. And usually without even understanding that there is no logic behind his argumentation and most of the time siding with the worst people here.

Biden did absolutely nothing to defuse the situation and keeps throwing fuel to the fire. For the US, the war in Ukraine is a good thing. Destabilizing other regions of the world and doing coups is normal for the US, they also admit it and joke about it on public television.

 

[Mathias]

That's a Russian owned pipeline. It is by definition not an inside job since Ukraine did it.

Well I guess my quotation marks turned out to be more useful then expected


CIA is kinda involved too. And the point of this sabotage was to force Germany to stop using Russian gaz. Trump could have said some dumb shit like "Putin, I know him, very nice guy, I like him very much, he is innocent in the triggering of the war and only Ukraine wants this by roping the West into it "



The orange man really needs to hire me.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Yes, all the things you mentioned are basically nothing compared to the usual US warmongering. Did you know Soleimani personally? Was he your friend? It seems you're all livid over his death and consider it equivalent to a major war.

LMAO! If you think increasing casualties is somewhat more peaceful than less casualties under Obama then idk what to tell you.

But I thought you cared about peace and shit, is killing a high ranking official from the Iranian government not an act of provocation? When he was fighting ISIS on the ground? Spare me your buffoonery clown, you're not even slick with your dick-riding.
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Well I guess my quotation marks turned out to be more useful then expected


CIA is kinda involved too. And the point of this sabotage was to force Germany to stop using Russian gaz. Trump could have said some dumb shit like "Putin, I know him, very nice guy, I like him very much, he is innocent in the triggering of the war and only Ukraine wants this by roping the West into it "



The orange man really needs to hire me.

Ig it would be a pseudo-inside job if Germany was in on it.

 

[Logiko]

Yes, all the things you mentioned are basically nothing compared to the usual US warmongering. Did you know Soleimani personally? Was he your friend? It seems you're all livid over his death and consider it equivalent to a major war.

Wtf are you even saying ? You do not even make sence.

Biden did absolutely nothing to defuse the situation

Well, he helped Ukraine which is being invaded. Or are you saying that you think that a country invading another country is ok ?



You expect him to do what ? Pat Putin on the back ? Give him a part of the territory ? Attack him ? Tell him that he is not being a good boy ?

Since you are clairvoyant, tell me how Trump would resolve the conflict. Do not spare the details, you should have plenty since you know how Trump will proceed.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Wtf are you even saying ? You do not even make sence.

He's even got you confused.

 

[Logiko]

He's even got you confused.

Like... even Nameless and Ravager have the courtesy to flee the debate when they see they can't add anything when I'm presenting them studies, datas and facts..

But this guy is staying and throwing straight up "alternative truth" to my face. I admit I did not expect such low level of rethoric.

How am I supposed to argue with someone who arguments like a 10 years old ?

 

[Mathias]

Ig it would be a pseudo-inside job if Germany was in on it.

I mean Germans initially thought it was a false-flag operation in order to blame Ukraine


Whatever name you give it, it's some dumbass work by Zelensky and Biden.

 

[Zenos7]

To contradict me. He has been doing this since the beginning of this thread. And usually without even understanding that there is no logic behind his argumentation and most of the time siding with the worst people here.

fake news

 

[Logiko]

fake news

Sure. Tell yourself that.

 

[Zenos7]

Sure. Tell yourself that.

no im telling you

 

[NAMELESS]

That's current death count.

Most wounded people will eventually also die in the coming days, months and years.

As Most Hospitals are destroyed, serious shortage of medicine and treatment plus a very restricted aid that's allowed


And the war is not even over yet.


It's likely gonna reach over 500k deaths

500k to 800k will be leaving to Egypt, Europe or some other countries that can be pushed by US to accept them in return for money ( bribes)

Remaining will live militarized camps funded by US, EU and Gulf in Southern Gaza.

1/3 of Northern Gaza will settled by Israelis


It's more than clear this is where we are heading.

~500k deaths is insane imo not a likely scenario.
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Like... Wtf

Vibe be like :

"This guy said he would harrass blonde women because he thinks that they are stupid, it's a sexist, he is a danger to every women"

"

"
"He just said the blond women"




Women do not consent being grabbed by their pussy.

What Trump does not tell you is that women will not say anything because they will be tetanized and afraid.

Metaphor bro
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Yes, all the things you mentioned are basically nothing compared to the usual US warmongering. Did you know Soleimani personally? Was he your friend? It seems you're all livid over his death and consider it equivalent to a major war.

Biden did absolutely nothing to defuse the situation and keeps throwing fuel to the fire. For the US, the war in Ukraine is a good thing. Destabilizing other regions of the world and doing coups is normal for the US, they also admit it and joke about it on public television.

Elon Musk joked about it. Problem with America is that they are far away from their enemies. If Latin America had a couple of nuclear nations that were willing to invade america, the world would be different.
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Like... even Nameless and Ravager have the courtesy to flee the debate when they see they can't add anything when I'm presenting them studies, datas and facts..

But this guy is staying and throwing straight up "alternative truth" to my face. I admit I did not expect such low level of rethoric.

How am I supposed to argue with someone who arguments like a 10 years old ?

I do a courtesy to myself and stop interacting with self entitled assholes whenever someone is saying things that are too detached to reality.

 

[Logiko]

Metaphor bro

No, this is not a metaphor. And even if it was it's still horrible and should not be defended at any point.

Those who defend someone who say things like this, are not more worthy than him. We do not play with rape culture.

I do a courtesy to myself and stop interacting with self entitled assholes whenever someone is saying things that are too detached to reality

It's funny that it always happens when I share facts, datas or studies with you.



It's like science and researches repels you guys.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Actually I don’t see much difference Kamala is barely a communist . She is equally a corporate shill just like Donald .

Given how bad Republican Party is right now and ran by Trump criminal family I would incline Kamala to win .

However the signs of Trump incoming is getting likelier . However I would like to remind to my fellow woke mobs it won’t be end of the world . Biden was equally worst just like Trump , I am pretty confident Trump won’t stop Ukraine war and Right wingers should realise he is big fan of Netanyahu so expect more wars in Middle East .

 

[Rej]

Nutting is science