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Yep, absolutely. Honestly with enough mental gymnastics this can be applied to anything. Exploitation of minorities in poor countries for electronics (particularly the mines for metals and minerals). Foodstuffs coming from poor countries with shit pays and bad working conditions. Clothes coming from sweatshops in Bangladesh or India.
This is why this whole thing to me is very performative, Gaza's situation is terrible but the only reason a lot of people care enough to complain about it is because it's a high profile issue and it gives them brownie points on social media
This is why this whole thing to me is very performative, Gaza's situation is terrible but the only reason a lot of people care enough to complain about it is because it's a high profile issue and it gives them brownie points on social media
Chill on what exactly ? You guyz are the one spreading missinformation
I debunked literally each one of your points. Are you for real right now ?
Ok.. i'm entering emoji mode, I was wrong to take you seriously for a second, you guyz are back in post-truth rethorics..
That's not what gaslighting is my guy
You are confusing yourself on your own. I'm not responsible for you trusting missinformations.
That's called being smart.
I do fear the BAN hammer because I know full well that I'm in ennemy territory. This is not a safe place.
Does it means that I should respect those who are saying BS ? Nah. But I reply to you with facts, not insults. You simply refuse to accept them.
There are sooooo many way to see that.
I'm so scary
You missed the 2571 pages mate.
Comparing two situations that have nothing in common is. You would have talked about Ukrained or Congo.. well I would have listenned, but the destructions of rainforest and the endangering of natives is not really the same thing as an apartheid and a genocide on top of multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity when all mainstream media and politics are on the side of the oppressors...
Come on..
The left worldwide is doing the job. What you are talking about here are liberals, not leftists.
Those who disguise themselves as progressist but do absolutely nothing against people in power.
The left do what it can. Instead of trashing it, maybe we should help it.
I know and the comprison is bad. Period.
And right now, you are confusing putting a priority on Gaza (which SHOULD be the priority of everyone) and looking away in front of horrible things happening all over in the world.
1. Everyone has different way to fight and everyone can't fight for everything.
2. It's not has easy to counter different problems such as the destructions of rainforest, post-colonialism and the genocide
3. It's a fallacious rethoric. Prioritizing is NOT looking away.
So stop this fallacious thinking please and listen to people who are trying to tell you that there is a priority at the moment on top of all other priorities.
Nobody is saying that we must boycott Inaki, I love the guy, I tell you that we must boycott mcdonald. Inaki just made a communication mistake.
Most likely because he is depoliticized.
No. I recognize this rethoric, it's the same I had when I was slipping into Islamophobia myself.
So I'm telling you, don't fall for it.
Mulsim are not your ennemies.
I'm talking about muslims in Europe.
About your statement on the left.
This is exactly what I'm doing.
I myself have been boycotting Mc Donald since I know the BDS movement and the involvement of the brand in Israel. Same for Carrefour and other brands.
(Even if it's not always easy)
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It's not a one day thing.
I debunked literally each one of your points. Are you for real right now ?
Ok.. i'm entering emoji mode, I was wrong to take you seriously for a second, you guyz are back in post-truth rethorics..
That's not what gaslighting is my guy
You are confusing yourself on your own. I'm not responsible for you trusting missinformations.
That's called being smart.
I do fear the BAN hammer because I know full well that I'm in ennemy territory. This is not a safe place.
Does it means that I should respect those who are saying BS ? Nah. But I reply to you with facts, not insults. You simply refuse to accept them.
There are sooooo many way to see that.
I'm so scary
You missed the 2571 pages mate.
Comparing two situations that have nothing in common is. You would have talked about Ukrained or Congo.. well I would have listenned, but the destructions of rainforest and the endangering of natives is not really the same thing as an apartheid and a genocide on top of multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity when all mainstream media and politics are on the side of the oppressors...
Come on..
The left worldwide is doing the job. What you are talking about here are liberals, not leftists.
Those who disguise themselves as progressist but do absolutely nothing against people in power.
The left do what it can. Instead of trashing it, maybe we should help it.
I know and the comprison is bad. Period.
And right now, you are confusing putting a priority on Gaza (which SHOULD be the priority of everyone) and looking away in front of horrible things happening all over in the world.
1. Everyone has different way to fight and everyone can't fight for everything.
2. It's not has easy to counter different problems such as the destructions of rainforest, post-colonialism and the genocide
3. It's a fallacious rethoric. Prioritizing is NOT looking away.
So stop this fallacious thinking please and listen to people who are trying to tell you that there is a priority at the moment on top of all other priorities.
Nobody is saying that we must boycott Inaki, I love the guy, I tell you that we must boycott mcdonald. Inaki just made a communication mistake.
Most likely because he is depoliticized.
No. I recognize this rethoric, it's the same I had when I was slipping into Islamophobia myself.
So I'm telling you, don't fall for it.
Mulsim are not your ennemies.
I'm talking about muslims in Europe.
About your statement on the left.
This is exactly what I'm doing.
I myself have been boycotting Mc Donald since I know the BDS movement and the involvement of the brand in Israel. Same for Carrefour and other brands.
(Even if it's not always easy)
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It's not a one day thing.
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Exactly.
It's funny that I'm the one being flamed as being gaslighting people by people who are the actual gaslighters.
- Like I'm the one using actual datas and scientific consensus ?? >>>>>"I'm the one denying reality or science"
- A put some context on the words of someone confusing communication and consensus in order to counter people implying that we shouldn't trust science or scientist ? >>>>> "I'm distording reality and I gaslight by moving the goalpost"
- I'm explaining that we must fight for Gaza ? >>>>> "I'm hypocrite and ignoring the problems linked to colonialism and capitalism" (even when I'm literally the only one constantly talking about it)
- I'm labelling people people of their toxic position in order to stop their behavior ? >>>>> "I'm a toxic person who is insane"
- I'm calling out the BS missinformation of people based on actual political basis and field activists >>>>> "I don't know anything and I don't understand what the left is"
It's really something this forum (those are all things that were actually said btw)
Indeed, that's why neutral science is problematic.
This is something that I explained in details around the first thousands of pages of this thread.
While the conclusions of science can be neutral. The process is not. It never is. It's full of biases and blindspot.
BUT
This is the best process we have. Hence, we must stick to it in the most ethical way possible. And this requiere for science to be political on top of being rigorous.
A simple exemple at the moment is the lack of women and the biases against women researchers in science. Well, to counter that, we need to push the other way. And this means being much more inclusive and aware of those biases when we are doing science.
This means political changes, economical changes, methodological changes even.
It's funny that I'm the one being flamed as being gaslighting people by people who are the actual gaslighters.
- Like I'm the one using actual datas and scientific consensus ?? >>>>>"I'm the one denying reality or science"
- A put some context on the words of someone confusing communication and consensus in order to counter people implying that we shouldn't trust science or scientist ? >>>>> "I'm distording reality and I gaslight by moving the goalpost"
- I'm explaining that we must fight for Gaza ? >>>>> "I'm hypocrite and ignoring the problems linked to colonialism and capitalism" (even when I'm literally the only one constantly talking about it)
- I'm labelling people people of their toxic position in order to stop their behavior ? >>>>> "I'm a toxic person who is insane"
- I'm calling out the BS missinformation of people based on actual political basis and field activists >>>>> "I don't know anything and I don't understand what the left is"
It's really something this forum (those are all things that were actually said btw)
Indeed, that's why neutral science is problematic.
This is something that I explained in details around the first thousands of pages of this thread.
While the conclusions of science can be neutral. The process is not. It never is. It's full of biases and blindspot.
BUT
This is the best process we have. Hence, we must stick to it in the most ethical way possible. And this requiere for science to be political on top of being rigorous.
A simple exemple at the moment is the lack of women and the biases against women researchers in science. Well, to counter that, we need to push the other way. And this means being much more inclusive and aware of those biases when we are doing science.
This means political changes, economical changes, methodological changes even.
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tell people to stop using their phones computers social media Amazon and whatnot cause these things support genocide by backing Israel 
I do not believe Iñaki is doing this to spit on the face of BDS. He’s a kid in the first place. Personally I just thought the ad was cringe.
I support the right for people to boycott corporations as much as they want, but let’s not pretend that just because a 20 year old actor did an ad for McDonald’s that automatically makes him a raging Zionist.
would I have refused McDonald’s if I were him? Yes. But not everybody has strong opinions like a keyboard warrior such as myself.
I support the right for people to boycott corporations as much as they want, but let’s not pretend that just because a 20 year old actor did an ad for McDonald’s that automatically makes him a raging Zionist.
would I have refused McDonald’s if I were him? Yes. But not everybody has strong opinions like a keyboard warrior such as myself.
Yep, absolutely. Honestly with enough mental gymnastics this can be applied to anything. Exploitation of minorities in poor countries for electronics (particularly the mines for metals and minerals). Foodstuffs coming from poor countries with shit pays and bad working conditions. Clothes coming from sweatshops in Bangladesh or India.
This is why this whole thing to me is very performative, Gaza's situation is terrible but the only reason a lot of people care enough to complain about it is because it's a high profile issue and it gives them brownie points on social media
This is why this whole thing to me is very performative, Gaza's situation is terrible but the only reason a lot of people care enough to complain about it is because it's a high profile issue and it gives them brownie points on social media
