Can we agree that you can have social welfare programs without excessive bureocracy and taxation?
Some places in Europe have like 40% or more income tax. This is ridiculous. Taxation and Bureaucracy make it so the little guys can create their own businesses and compete.
So you either get a job or you end up living of a welfare check. Excessive assistencialism can mean slavery.If goverments don't create programs to incentive people to either seek work or create a business, this is modern slavery in my book. They are forcing people to depend on the govermnent one way or the other.
This is my problem with social democracy: Good old create problems to offer solutions. By using the excuse creating of equality and fighting off poverty, they alianete people from the possibility of fending off for themselves. The tools for this are taxes and bureaucracy.
I remember when i was 18 and i tried to get a license to work. It took me almost an entire year. I remember my father commented it took him 15min back in his day. This was 11 years ago, now it's even worse. Ofc, Brazilian gov loves the poor. They OWN the poor.
Anything in excess is bad, but throwing taxes and overall welfare away because it can be exploited is dumb. Capitalism is highly exploitative and I don't see you throwing it away.

a 99% tax on the rich is stupid, doesn't mean I think they should be tax free. You live in a society and reap the benefits of it? You pay it back. It is a simple social contract
 
Anything in excess is bad, but throwing taxes and overall welfare away because it can be exploited is dumb. Capitalism is highly exploitative and I don't see you throwing it away.

a 99% tax on the rich is stupid, doesn't mean I think they should be tax free. You live in a society and reap the benefits of it? You pay it back. It is a simple social contract
I don't believe in different tax quotas for different incomes. It is discriminatory in my book. Also, fuck society. The goverments down here don't do shit and they take away everything from people. Your social welfare works? Great for you guys. But it doesn't for us. We should get rid of it. I don't mind how other nations run their lives, i'm only corncerned about my corner of the world.
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That shocked I think less people should get the death penalty when it goes wrong sometimes huh?

Worry about whatever you want. Ill worry about if ravager is ever gonna get back to me with that A/S/L
Whataboutism is your entire persona isn't it?
 
I don't believe in different tax quotas for different incomes. It is discriminatory in my book. Also, fuck society. The goverments down here don't do shit and they take away everything from people. Your social welfare works? Great for you guys. But it doesn't for us. We should get rid of it. I don't mind how other nations run their lives, i'm only corncerned about my corner of the world.
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Whataboutism is your entire persona isn't it?
Honestly man the idea you still are kicking after the whole “no innocents are there lol” “ACTUALLY UHHH YOURE JUST CRAZY FOR CARING IF INNOCENTS ARE THERE!” Debacle is pathetic, but go on
 
I logged off to take a quick shower. Wtf happened?
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Anything in excess is bad, but throwing taxes and overall welfare away because it can be exploited is dumb. Capitalism is highly exploitative and I don't see you throwing it away.

a 99% tax on the rich is stupid, doesn't mean I think they should be tax free. You live in a society and reap the benefits of it? You pay it back. It is a simple social contract
Problem is, you need to have a society to begin with. I feel like most people these days just care about themselves. Everyone is so disrespectul and egotistical nowadays. There is a reason corruption is so rampant in third world nations. CULTURE!
 
My online behavior doesn't reflect my manners irl. I don't annoy neighbors with loud music. I don't smoke near people. I don't throw trash at the street. I don't spit on the ground. I don't speak loud on the phone...you know basic rules of society. I'm not a hooligan. The average Carioca has devolved into a savage these days. Even people from the upper class are uncultured brutes down here. How are we going to have working society, if people don't do the basic?
 
My online behavior doesn't reflect my manners irl. I don't annoy neighbors with loud music. I don't smoke near people. I don't throw trash at the street. I don't spit on the ground. I don't speak loud on the phone...you know basic rules of society. I'm not a hooligan. The average Carioca has devolved into a savage these days. Even people from the upper class are uncultured brutes down here. How are we going to have working society, if people don't do the basic?
It seems to me like you're equating being loud and sort of annoying with being a burden on society. I am not the loud type, and I'm usually annoyed at people trying to be the center of attention in public. But I'm not resentful enough to pretend they're what's wrong with society. Seems to me like you need to do some introspection, everyone does.
 
It seems to me like you're equating being loud and sort of annoying with being a burden on society. I am not the loud type, and I'm usually annoyed at people trying to be the center of attention in public. But I'm not resentful enough to pretend they're what's wrong with society. Seems to me like you need to do some introspection, everyone does.
I wasn't talking about you, but if the shoe fits...Ofc, you are not the loud type. You would probably shit your pants if you had a irl argument with someone. All your tantrums must be your way to cope (like you did say in the past) with being bullied or harassed at work or home. I pity you. Also, you live in New York, you don't now shit about Brazilian society. Stick to what you know, plz. You are embarrassing yourself by trying to be a smartass. Take your own advice about introspection and theraphy. Bragging about cyber bullying random people in a weeb forum cause moderators have your back is pathetic and definitely NOT normal behavior. You have anger issues, baby. Good luck facing your traumas!

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Son, you need to find a girlfriend asap. You never have anything worthwhile to contribute to these debates. You need to reinvent yourself. Find a new hobby...you know...do something that makes you happy. You complained about worstgen ruining your life before, maybe it's time for you to face life and stop procrastinating. I would delete my account if i were you.
 
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I wasn't talking about you, but if the shoe fits...Ofc, you are not the loud type. You would probably shit your pants if you had a irl argument with someone. All your tantrums must be your way to cope (like you did say in the past) with being bullied or harassed at work or home. I pity you. Also, you live in New York, you don't now shit about Brazilian society. Stick to what you know, plz. You are embarrassing yourself by trying to be a smartass. Take your own advice about introspection and theraphy. Bragging about cyber bullying random people in a weeb forum cause moderators have your back is pathetic and definitely NOT normal behavior. You have anger issues, baby. Good luck facing your traumas!
I didn’t think you were talking about me, but I never said I was bullied at home or work, you’re just making stuff up. If someone is snapping and throwing a tantrum rn, that would be you.

for once, I’m giving you genuine advice despite finding you despicable. I’m not bragging about bullying anybody nor do mods have my back (AL is no fan of mine)

Idk why you snapped so hard just now, but im
Not coping with my problems by riling people up and trying to trigger them on the internet. I do go to therapy, but I bet you need it more than I do, cuz that wall of text just now was pure projection my guy.
 
I didn’t think you were talking about me, but I never said I was bullied at home or work, you’re just making stuff up. If someone is snapping and throwing a tantrum rn, that would be you.

for once, I’m giving you genuine advice despite finding you despicable. I’m not bragging about bullying anybody nor do mods have my back (AL is no fan of mine)

Idk why you snapped so hard just now, but im
Not coping with my problems by riling people up and trying to trigger them on the internet. I do go to therapy, but I bet you need it more than I do.
Stop, none of your posts are genuine. Stop gaslighting. You are the one that comes here to bait and rage at people. You did say so yourself. Don't make me go after Jurassic prints.
 
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