Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

I was the first one to call it mate .. kinda

(Hajrudin is actually the Loki, and Loki is actually the Thor in One Piece, Oda swaped them)




I don't know enough about Indonesia, so I'm holding out my judgment. But if you want a clear marker of what I support: I'm with those who fight the ones in power, capitalism, Heteronormativity, colonialism, imperialism, ableism, fascism, patriarchy and systemic racism.

In short, people who fight against oppressive systemic domination system. So compare that situation with what you know of Indonesia, and you will know if I'm for or against

As for protesting, my options are kinda limited at the moment

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

 

[Logiko]

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

The only things that prevent me from being 100% LokiForNakama is his height (I don't see how he can fit on Sunny without an upgrade of the ship), his post (but it can appear later) and his Quirks that I don't really see at the moment.

Other than that, he is a far stronger candidate than Yamato at the time. I would even place him on the same level as Carrot (for different reasons)

 

[Naomi]

Oh so you are for Loki for nakama

Why? Why you have to do this?

I guess it's over for Loki bros

@Naomi @Tyki_Mikk @Mr. Reloaded @Uncle Van Loki isn't joining. Logiko curse is too stronk

what curse?

 

[Mathias]

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

I actually told him that it's not about the percentage. And I believe others did too.

You just missed us. You can say it

Spoiler: Logiko missed this forum

 

[AL sama]

what curse?

you don't belong here

this thread is cursed so stay away my dear

 

[Logiko]

I actually told him that it's not about the percentage. And I believe others did too.

You just missed us. You can say it

Not the way I think it should be said, but maybe I missed some posts, I skipped stuff
I missed the dopamine shot of the notifications. I'm gonna get addicted again so it was probably a bad idea.


Anyway. If I stay, I'm gonna do things differently from now on.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

the most urgent matter

There are others situations of genocide, but not with the same countdown.

Wahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

No
You get your information from mainstream left channels that convinced you what you just said is the truth

You still haven't learned to use your own brain, still a wingnut extremist.

 

[Mathias]

People are already baiting Logiko with the silliest baits I've seen in months

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

People are already baiting Logiko with the silliest baits I've seen in months

Not even bait

Just the truth


He restarted his worstgen career right where he left off

 

[Mathias]

Not even bait

Just the truth


He restarted his worstgen career right where he left off

Not only you.

Anyway. Please elaborate on Indonesia instead of dropping some whataboutism. Same for @Midnight Delight on Syria.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Not only you.

Anyway. Please elaborate on Indonesia instead of dropping some whataboutism. Same for @Midnight Delight on Syria.

I'm not your personal search engine fucker

 

[Logiko]

Wahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

No
You get your information from mainstream left channels that convinced you what you just said is the truth

You still haven't learned to use your own brain, still a wingnut extremist.

You are right on one thing. I'm indeed FAR more radical now that I was 6 month ago. Now.. Before, I would have made an argument. Call you out, but I won't do that now, it's useless. I can't make you change something you don't wanna, so I'm changing my strategy. My words - from now on - are not aimed at those who don't want to change.

I will now be proposing tool of radicalization for the CURIOUS souls who want to dive deeper into their politicization.

I use the term "progressist" here because it can also be aimed at rightist who are curious to learn stuff, just like leftists, the tools are just not the same.

So if some of you are curious. I might have some tools that can help you. Nothing perfect, I don't have the truth and it will stay simple since i'm on my own journey too, but I have more tools in my bag that I had before.

It's up to you. If you want, I can make you angrier.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

My words - from now on - are not aimed at those who don't want to change anymore.

I don't want to change into an agendatard wingnut that regurgitates whatever the left mainstream is currently posting on social media😂
You're in desperate need for critical thinking classes. I'm really lost my patience with you

 

[Logiko]

I don't want to change into an agendatard wingnut that regurgitates whatever the left mainstream is currently posting on social media😂
You're in desperate need for critical thinking classes. I'm really lost my patience with you

Ok

 

[Midnight Delight]

Anyway. Please elaborate on Indonesia instead of dropping some whataboutism. Same for @Midnight Delight on Syria.

The Syrian government has been committing massacres on religious and ethnic Minorities for a while now

 

[Logiko]

The Syrian government has been committing massacres on religious and ethnic Minorities for a while now

Indeed, it's a way for them to "punish" what they define as the old support of Assad and to assert dominance and control in the region. Those war crimes are classic methods of radicalized overtaking powers.

This is a big reason why Revolutions - while necessary - are very risky if not balanced by a REAL politicized popular education and ethics. We ALL bare a part of reactionnarism in us and this part is the one that speak to us the most in the context of a war.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Indeed, it's a way for them to "punish" what they define as the old support of Assad and to assert dominance and control in the region.

Most Syrians "Supported" Assad, but in Private even his own sect hated him and considered him an atheist

Matter of fact is that a lot of Assadist war criminals just pretend they are Religious Muslim conservatives and secretly integrated into the new government and got away with it due to not being a minority

 

[Logiko]

Most Syrians "Supported" Assad, but in Private even his own sect hated him and considered him an atheist

Matter of fact is that a lot of Assadist war criminals just pretend they are Religious Muslim conservatives and secretly integrated into the new government and got away with it due to not being a minority

Yeah.. It's a lot of very reactionnary people. It's why it's so important for Revolutions to be based on solid materialist fundations. There is always the chance for reactionnary people and positions to appear, but they are stopped by the popular education of the movement.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This is exactly what US citizens need. Mamdani's integration to the democratic party would annihiliate the little chances for a potential third and leftist party to rise. It's a very good thing for leftists and a very bad thing for rightists and liberals.

Not just you. I was triggered by the fact that no one really cared to explain to you that a genocide does not imply the extermination of an entire group of people

Here are the definition from the ICC:

As you can see Israel is responsible not only of one, but MULTIPLE acts of genocides. And it's VERY important not to minimize this word - even if the ICC has not yet delivered a judgement on the word - because each time we minimize it, we help the agenda of the fascists who are doing this genocide in the first place.

I'm very serious. I understand your concern about not having a judgment yet, but for the moment lives are at stakes and we must NEVER allow ourselves to believe that what we say or do has zero impacts. Because it's wrong.

You and me, we are not a bunch nobody, we are a part of this society. And each one of our words can be spread, shared and felt.
Never underestimate that.

honestly it does seem likely Israel’s actions are genocide. I don’t like making statements with absolution and I try to see things from multiple perspectives. I do this with one piece theories as much as I do with politics.

but even left leaning Zionist Jews are starting to call it a genocide: https://www.timesofisrael.com/j-str...inced-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/amp/

on top of that, recently had a talk with my friend on this matter. He’s very pro Israel.

conversation went like this;
Me: have you heard about how a bunch of academics are saying Israel is committing genocide
Him: yeah, those are all lies

And after that, he went on to basically justify why violence against civilians in Gaza is okay.
“None of the people there are innocent, they all support Hamas and want to destroy Israel”

Politics aside, my friend is genuinely a good guy. But this reminds me of how Nazis talk about Jews. Where they will deny the Holocaust, but simultaneously justify it.

 

[Reborn]

what curse?

Long story


We were already dealing with Anti - Loki bros and wings dynamics + Loki's height

And, now we have two curses on our back - TAC and Logiko - both saying Loki 4 nakama


We are doomed


My bald curse isn't strong enough to take on the combined curses of TAC and Logiko