Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Sure, I get that, but at least I think I am looking at it more from the egalitarian perspective, I can see it working on a small scale but on a grand scale, at least the real world examples so far seem to always forget what the goal is.

The problem with capitalism, is that not our only nation is capitalism, all the others are. In a world were international relationship are needed, capitalism will crush anykind of divergeant system before it can be implemented.

Are you talking about what fascism actually turns out to be or the characteristics in theory?

Both.

I get that in theory leftist utopias might not strive to erase individuality but in reality, they did though, right?

Not really, if you look at powerfull leftist experiences in the past (around spain or the commune, I'm excluding the URSS that was a failure mainly) you will see that individuality actually strived. But individuality was not used for the interests of some but for the collective.

This means complete collective education.

We can be whole by being one and we can only be one by being all. (I just come up with that, I like it)

Maybe I might be wrong but I do not see the consistency in judging fascism what it really turned out to be vs what its proponents said it would be, with Italy and Germany being the most extreme examples, but judging socialism what it aspires to in theory but actually never did on a nation level?

Fascism is like chain reaction. We know how it can be form, and we know how much damage it can done. Everything about fascism is predictible (to a certain limit of adaptability of course). This means that if we see the recipe, the system is not far.

woke rightist

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"It's not about his ideas is about the fact he speak out his ideas" genius...

Yeah it's because of that.. Words have consequences... genius.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967233388147847434

When I tell you that he is self aware...

@Logiko this is an awesome video if you would like to check it out, ML means marxist-leninist, it's also only four minutes long, it's about why anarchists call marxist-leninist projects ( the USSR, Cuba, China ) state-capitalist

Yeah I agree with him here. Socialism as it was theorize is still something that needs to happen. It never really appeared systematically.

so a lot of these people don't get to play a moral high ground on this issue. Fact is the left and right in america mirror each other, so if the right feels leftists cancel them , they will do the same. And likewise since conservatives no longer felt that. death something that people had to respect then some of the reaction to kirk's death is exactly a mirror of that.


My personal opinion is both shouldnt be mocked but I don't make the rules, I simply observe but I observe with an understanding of exactly why people feel that way.

Problem :
- One side wants to hurt marginalized people
- The other side wants to protect them..

The unfettered batshit insanity is to be expected, but “credit to creator of graphic below” is sending me all the fucking way right now, it’s so visibly AI generated but this lunatic thought she was doing the right thing by acknowledging there’s a human to credit for this monstrosity

lmao

Ravager, stop, watching, the same, channel, everyday.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Yeah it's because of that.. Words have consequences... genius.

You are a walking, hopefully, hypocrisis.

 

[Logiko]

You are a walking, hopefully, hypocrisis.

You sure ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967143614208770211

Do you like X-Men @HerreraIsBack , @Ravagerblade ?

 

[Blax Blah]

You sure ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967143614208770211

Do you like X-Men @HerreraIsBack , @Ravagerblade ?
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You sure ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967143614208770211

Do you like X-Men @HerreraIsBack , @Ravagerblade ?

Wow they actually misspelled it

 

[HerreraIsBack]

You sure ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967143614208770211

Do you like X-Men @HerreraIsBack , @Ravagerblade ?
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You sure ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1967143614208770211

Do you like X-Men @HerreraIsBack , @Ravagerblade ?

I feel like you think you have a point but are really struggling to show it

 

[Logiko]

I feel like you think you have a point but are really struggling to show it

Do you like X-Men ?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Do you like X-Men ?

I guess... Always watched the cartoon before going to school.

 

[Blax Blah]

Do you like X-Men ?

I am actually going to check out Xmen sometime, I saw Xmen 97 but I didn't know who the people were

 

[HerreraIsBack]

I am actually going to check out Xmen sometime, I saw Xmen 97 but I didn't know who the people were

I'm more familiar with X-Men Evolutions (2000)

 

[Logiko]

I guess... Always watched the cartoon before going to school.

I suggest you to watch Xmen97, we might have an interesting discussion after it.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

I suggest you to watch Xmen97, we might have an interesting discussion after it.

I won't

 

[Logiko]

I won't

Too bad.
What do you think the Xmen represent?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Too bad.
What do you think the Xmen represent?

Cool super heros and super vilains that makes an enjoyable show for kids, teenagers and even adults

 

[Logiko]

Cool super heros and super vilains that makes an enjoyable show for kids, teenagers and even adults

And.. deeper ?

 

[HerreraIsBack]

And.. deeper ?

Cool characters to make some profit from it

 

[Logiko]

Cool characters to make some profit from it

It represents homosexuality, or more precisely, the LGBTQI+ struggle through the spectra of racialization.

I wondered about your thoughts on this group of super, because it could be a cool way to introduce you to some leftists concepts.

 

[Uncle Van]

It represents homosexuality, or more precisely, the LGBTQI+ struggle through the spectra of racialization.

I wondered about your thoughts on this group of super, because it could be a cool way to introduce you to some leftists concepts.

OK Xmen isn't about homosexuality. It represents a marginalized group of people shunned and oppressed by society, showcasing how oppression changes people and their response to it. Charles Xavier and Magneto are 2 sides of the same coin.

It is a common plot point in the entertainment genre.

 

[eamonpro]

"the liberal party is so divisive, please follow my youtube channel where i profit off of sowing division with liberals and fearmongering"

 

[Logiko]

OK Xmen isn't about homosexuality. It represents a marginalized group of people shunned and oppressed by society, showcasing how oppression changes people and their response to it. Charles Xavier and Magneto are 2 sides of the same coin.

It is a common plot point in the entertainment genre.

It's common because they made it common. It does represents marginalize group indeed. But through the LGBT+ lens and the spectrum of racialization.

It's not for nothing than the main thematic of Xmen is the acceptance of one self and the struggle of coming out against a population that see your new "identity" as unatural. This forms the LGBTQI+ lens, and Xmen uses that smartly to incorporate the racialization of Mutans as a system of repression on top of that. It's a really interesting sociologically.

Charles Xavier and Magneto represents to vision of radicalism. I'm watching 97 at the moment, the political writing is on the roof!

 

[AL sama]

It represents homosexuality, or more precisely, the LGBTQI+ struggle through the spectra of racialization.

I wondered about your thoughts on this group of super, because it could be a cool way to introduce you to some leftists concepts.

I think you meant to say minority groups